Pasco Stakes

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derbygal — Fri, 18 Jan 2013 23:35:05 GMT

Santa Anita:

R7 2,6,7,5

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El Kabong — Fri, 18 Jan 2013 22:39:28 GMT

Billy,

I was watching that race live where you mentioned he stopped in the lane and I think he was pulled up by mena because the lane he wanted between tesseron and river seven closed like a barn door. In my opinion, River Seven drifted out center right after his jock smacked him twice on the left inside. Mena claimed a foul but it was disallowed. No matter, it will make him smarter and tougher going forward. Did I mention his dosage is 2.0?

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El Kabong — Fri, 18 Jan 2013 20:42:46 GMT

JayJay,

Jay Jay,

Tesseron's by Tapit, who has been terrific so far producing graded stakes winners. He's had two G runs at two turns against very good company and performed well, in fact he looked very relaxed striding easy, not fatigued in both. In the KJC he had a bad start which didn't help but he finished up well along side Dewey Square. The top 4 horses in this race are all very good horses, and all are worth a close eye to see how they improve in their 3 year old frames. Tesserons pedigree does not scream 10f's but he'll be a factor up to 9 for sure. Let's see how he handles that. Dosage isn't bad but it is border line, same as Bodemeister's. If he gets a little bigger, stronger, and hopefully faster, he can compete with anyone. Who you ran against means more to me than times. Watch those four as they compete and hopefully it won't be against one another.

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predict — Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:53:05 GMT

JayJay,

Thanks for heads up on Mott, I agree he should have a good day. In race 3 I'm watching Elmutahid because he is first time off the turf and he is bred so similar to Street Sense, being sired by Street Cry and out of a Dixieland Band mare. I like the connections and I wonder if they haven't just been careful with this guy, having kept him on the turf. Should be an interesting race.

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Weekend — Fri, 18 Jan 2013 14:17:54 GMT

El Kabong, well there are two of us then. I think he has the pedigree to get there. He has a strong female family, and Lion Heart was the leading third year sire. He showed a lot of grit and heart in his races, and I think he has passed that down to this colt. His only loss he was stopped in the lane and got 5th, other than that we just wins. I am going to keep a close eye on Uncaptured.

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JayJay — Fri, 18 Jan 2013 05:27:02 GMT

Predict : Thanks for the heads up on that 9F race at GP for 3 yr olds. I'll probably play Gentleman's Honor again here but I'm also intrigued by Quiros. I like betting Mott's horses but I see that he switched riders (Jr Alvarado), Cornelio rode him the last time, not sure if it's a good move or not. You're right, if betting based on breeding, I'll probably pass this race as I won't be able to pick one lol. Just a gut feeling, Mott's going to have a big day on saturday.

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JayJay — Fri, 18 Jan 2013 05:04:02 GMT

Keelerman : Watched Maleeh's race, and yeah, that was an impressive race (exactly how you described it.) I'm not a fan of indian charlie's but you never know. Also, there's a lot of prep races to win but like you said, his breeding doesn't scream 10Fs. One thing I noticed, he looked a lot smaller than Bellamy Storm, you see it more as they crossed the wire but maybe it's the camera's angle or maybe it's my eyes lol.

tcc : Thanks for the info on Mylute, where did you get that info ? I tried searching the fairgrounds website but couldn't anything about mylute and risen star.

El Kabong : Is Tesseron on your (early) derby list ? He's on mine, just curious if you like him too and what do you like about him.

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KY VET — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 23:16:12 GMT

gg race 6....look for arathorn to improve.....wp#7

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KY VET — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 22:22:27 GMT

2nd at gg....too far back...russell b 4th...another chalk killed....but didnt get the win.....good place payoff...

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KY VET — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 22:19:11 GMT

gg race 4...russell b even! wow....thats overbet...ill bet #2 wp alias micheal

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KY VET — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 22:19:10 GMT

gg race 4...russell b even! wow....thats overbet...ill bet #2 wp alias micheal

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KY VET — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 22:17:02 GMT

wow,,,just had winner at sa race 3...tri cold......but there was inquiry...did anyone see that? they left my horse up...i think they should have took #2 down! #3 had lead, but pricked ears up and pulled himself up, fought back...bumped twice.....unreal!

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Forbidden Apple — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 21:31:58 GMT

Avie's Quality is still an unkown on dirt and the 5/2 morning line is low for me. I looked back at the charts for every horse and I think Golden Soul looks interesting at 5-1.

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El Kabong — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 21:30:34 GMT

Billy E,

I am with you on Uncaptured and for exactly the reasons you stated, especially the dam sire line which if it shows up just a little, should carry this guy to 10f's. I mentioned him a while back on my 20 horse watch list but he hasn't popped up yet in action. I like the crowd he has been running against too. Frac Daddy, Dewey Square and Tesseron are good horses. I would give anything to hear what Mena said to Cohen right after the wire in the KJC. Keep the faith on Uncaptured. Like Steve noted, he's a throwback to a tougher day. He has one of the best foundations and a real winning desire. He's my favorite so far, but this is too early to surround anyone with wagons.

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KY VET — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 21:13:41 GMT

comp froze...donato's saddle slipped, goes out by 6.....still holds on.....that was dicey!

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KY VET — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 20:59:39 GMT

sa race 1 my first prime bet of day....horse w problems dropping....#2 donato.....today runs good, then jump off him....wp

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derbygal — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 20:56:49 GMT

Santa Anita

R1 5,2

R2 4,3

R3 3,1,6

R4 2,6,4,8

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KY VET — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 20:49:47 GMT

aqu race 8....#9 james jingle wp

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Rusty Weisner — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 19:10:51 GMT

Jan. 26.

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predict — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 18:17:38 GMT

It is a self nomination by achievement, ending in June. The reason for stating what I did, all of the sires of the race participants, are sires that I would consider were chosen to breed for a route of ground as found in the Triple Crown races.

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Rusty Weisner — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 17:27:54 GMT

predict,

"Like they were bred to win the Triple Crown"...

By the way, when are the actual nominations?

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Weekend — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 17:12:13 GMT

Keelerman, I understand Titletown Five is a nice colt, but I would not bet a Lukas horse with your money. His record in stakes over the last 2 years is like 1-60... His time is up

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-Keelerman — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 16:38:22 GMT

Thanks, Tcc! I've been wondering what's up with Titletown Five. I guess this explains it!

Fortunately, Lukas has said that Titletown Five will be ready to run in March, so I guess the 60-90 days are just about up.

Forbidden Apple;

I haven't heard anything about Violence being injured. As of a few days ago, Pletcher stated the colt was still on track for a start in the Fountain of Youth.

-Keelerman

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Pete Denk — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 15:05:06 GMT

Billy-

I personally don't think Uncaptured is a 10f horse.

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Weekend — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 14:34:03 GMT

Looking forward to this season. No one is really talking about Uncaptured. He has a nice pedigree, his daddy Lion Heart was a nice colt, and he is out of a mare by Arch. Casse is a great trainer, and he had proven himself 2x on dirt at Churchill. Am I missing something here?