Capo Bastone: Overrated or underrated?

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CHIEF PICAWINNA — Sat, 23 Feb 2013 02:28:50 GMT

Some of you dont have an imagination,when you find a win machine like Wise Dan or Curlin as examples, you ride them every race because its almost always Win Place and Show for these types. These horses are so talented that in some of their races their opponents will want to be the ONE that upset the great one, and will run over ambitious races in their quest to defeat them.This will include speed horses running extremely fast opening fractions and pressers making bold mid race moves.These type of trips do one thing they make the race fall apart and even exactas turn out to pay very well.The others that you thought had a chance are burned by chasing the speed and making premature mid race moves.The great ones bide their time because the jockeys know they are on the best horse in the race, and all they have to do is not make any stupid mistakes, and they will probably win or at least place.The odds are mostly based on speed and speed figures so when the race falls apart these single digit odds horses that you thought had a chance to defeat the less than even money favorite are back pedalling nearing the wire.

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KY VET — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 01:40:20 GMT

Wow...sorry apple....you got the form now i see.......hey, good luck to ya..........put me down when im wrong, after the race......ranag...mo's odds were always too low.....i stayed out and cheered for mo most races.....and, add another big big fav..wise dan to your list......you are not breaking any news again......didnt we all know those horses were good? so.....you wait until a horse runs 110 beyer opr 108 beyer or 113 beyer....then declare hes a good horse........got it.........youre good!

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Pete Denk — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 22:04:50 GMT

Re: the 7th at GP Saturday, fascinating race.

Team Valor is super high on Crop Report in there. He will probably take action, but Tesseron should be favored. He has ability and I like the pedigree for turf (Tapit, out of a Hennessy mare).

New blog up in a minute...

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Pete Denk — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 22:01:27 GMT

JayJay-

I'm just starting to handicap the Saturday cards. The 9th at SA looks like my type of race. Will see...

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El Kabong — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 20:28:43 GMT

Anyone playing the .10 pick six?

Have 3 separators on the ticket,

GP 7th #9

GP 9th #11

GP 10th # 9

Like the 11 in the 9th best.

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Plod Boy Phil — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 19:05:36 GMT

Race Watchers-

Did anyone else notice the severe 'paddling' motion in the front left of the runner-up in the Southwest?

I know there have been good horses that were anything but perfect in this regard, but it may prove problematic down the road.

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Forbidden Apple — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 17:37:41 GMT

Winning streaks can take you to places, like the place in your head where you predict a Triple Crown winner 3 years in a row. Eskendereya, Uncle Mo, and Union Rags. Thgis year you have about 6 monsters, with Verrazano being #1.

I understand KY Vet's point, I often find myself going back to a horse because of an emotional attachment, we all do it.

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Ranagulzion — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 17:31:06 GMT

KY Vet,

I quote you " I loved uncle mo....but only bet him once, in the bcj.........i dont pick 1 horse, and stay on him.....my deal is, every race is different."

I observed that you treat good Graded Stakes horses like you treat Allowance and claimers and your remark above proves it.

Tell me how many races did Uncle Mo win ...yet you bet him only once? After Wise Dan won the Fourstardave Stakes last season I predicted that he'd continue winning for the rest of the season and cop the HOTY title ...that was a three race winning streak ...albeit at low odds ... how many times did you bet him? ... point is, these winning streaks by quality horses can take you places my friend ...think about one less headache when putting together your exotics and your pick fours/sixes ...Rookie!!!

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Forbidden Apple — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 17:24:07 GMT

Did you notice the 1/44 fast workout from Violence? Plus he has a class edge on this field.

Majestic Hussar and Elmutahid have big wins on sloppy tracks. What do you have against McLaughlin?

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Coldfacts — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 17:07:18 GMT

Falling Sky is a dangerous colt. I like Mr. McLaughlin's colt as well but I do not trust him to run two good races consecutively.

I think the race will set up for Orb with so many high cruisers. In his last race his rider only used the whip on him once. He will not be so gingerly treated by Johnny.

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Dr Drunkinbum — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 15:59:14 GMT

Mike Relva

Thank you very much. You keep up the good work visiting the horses and being a champion for their health and welfare, which is the most important thing.

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Forbidden Apple — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 14:50:14 GMT

Both Violence and Orb should improve off from their last races. All i'm saying is that I don't think it is wise to bet against Violence, he's very fast. I don't like to pick favorites often, but Violence is imposing. Elmutahid is the only other horse that got my attention, he is 1/1 on dirt. I'm interested in seeing what he can do on a fast track.

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Coldfacts — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 14:21:54 GMT

Forbidden Apple,

“I cannot see betting against

Violence or Data Link.”

Consider the following – Orb spotted Violence a 5L advantage at the gates and another 5L when he had to be taken 5 wide for his stretch run and he finished 3rd by 1L. By any measure, who was the better colt in that race? To mention Orb and Violence in the same sentence is almost sacrilegious.

They now meet again six months later and somehow there is reluctance to bet against Violence. Let me see if I understand the reluctance. Violence got 10L from Orb and defeated him by 1L. In the six months since they last met, Violence has improved 10L and Orb has regressed to the point where he has no chance of defeating him in the FOY. Orb appears to be a lazy sort but this was not apparent when he met Violence. There was a lot of pace in that race provided by Tile Town Five and Orb came flying at the end after being left at the a gates.

The FOY will be fast and not restricted to these two colts. However, if the option is to wager either Violence or Orb, my vote would go to Orb despite his lazy disposition.

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JayJay — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 07:19:35 GMT

Mary : Yeah, that's what I plan to play as well, was hoping to get some help from Pete with a single in the 6th or 7th race. It's a nice lineup, the last 4 races but tough to handicap. Good luck, don't forget to post your winning cheap tickets. Bet Small Win Big!

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Mary Zinke — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 05:51:33 GMT

I'd go 1,9,8 in that North Slope race, but I only watched the Kitten's Joy.

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Mary Zinke — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 05:35:14 GMT

Jay Jay, Not only do the last races at Santa Anita on Saturday look like a $1 P3 or a $1 or $2 P4, but $16 P6 with all of those downhill races. I like your spend a little to make a lot. I know you asked Pete, but I will play.

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Forbidden Apple — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 05:20:42 GMT

Does anyone even care who you are? Reality is that you were talking about yourself. I'm guessing that you have never even heard of North Slope or watched either of his races, some expert.

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JayJay — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 05:02:42 GMT

Pete : You covering any of the last 4 races at Santa Anita on Saturday ?

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Forbidden Apple — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 04:30:43 GMT

Unlikely I've seen the race, what a joke. You are starting to act like Newman from Seinfeld, a real agitator. What, are you the only person on this blog that watches races? No respect, but no surprise either.

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Mary Zinke — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 04:28:16 GMT

Sorry, but has anyone here even asked who you are, KY? You can keep your secret, but just a hint, if you don't want to be finite, don't give out too much info.

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Plod Boy Phil — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 04:26:44 GMT

re: Morth Slope

There are at least two in the race that will get more betting action than NS, Bold Challenger and Tesseron. The former has solid, albeit neutral, turf form and should benefit from the 9f race under hs belt after the 7 week gap. Starship Zero impressed us with his MSW win and subsequent Alw1x race, but has not handled the better company in either race at GP.

Good race - Good luck.

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Forbidden Apple — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 04:24:25 GMT

Wrong again pal, I have the DRF past performances for saturday right in front of me. I was present at his first race in Saratoga, he bled that day. And I did see his second race, he opened up at 8/5 and went off at 5/2. What, do you actually think I picked him blind? Give me a break, have you ever heard of a horse improving? He improved from a first out beyer of 44 to a 70 last out. Your Tesseron ran a 72 beyer last out, not much better. North Slope fits here and will be tough to hold off late. He closed into a 1:14 slow paced race last out.

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KY VET — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 04:05:57 GMT

Apple...ive made so much money in the past few years, i no longer need a job....bought a couple horses last year......i cant tell you who i am............look....i went to see what your horse looks like on paper, thinking he had a chance......its unlikely youve even seen the race....admit it. you probably were waiting for him to run.....he is way, way overmatched.....not my fault...scold me after he wins......hes only had 2 races right? maybe he will improve enough later............

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KY VET — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 04:00:36 GMT

3 for 10.....lost 6 in row! bullring hell......rediculous total +120

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Forbidden Apple — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 03:55:34 GMT

I don't understand what would make you say that North Slope sucks, bizarre. He might not be the next coming of Da Hoss, but I believe that he is a classy horse with a bright future. Good luck at Charles Town and Delta Downs.