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re: The Brisnet.com Ultimate Guide To Picking Horses On Top

Mary Zinke — Fri, 15 Nov 2013 21:22:58 GMT

Rusty, LOL !

re: The Brisnet.com Ultimate Guide To Picking Horses On Top

Rusty Weisner — Sat, 09 Nov 2013 14:30:23 GMT

To the author of this entry,

I could have done better going with Catherine the Great's picks of horses on top.

;-)

re: The Brisnet.com Ultimate Guide To Picking Horses On Top

Coldfacts — Thu, 07 Nov 2013 23:55:58 GMT

Congratulations are in order for the connections and fans of Wise Dan. I was of the opinion that the European colt Olympic Glory would provided some competition by that did not materialize.

It was left up to the G3 winner and G1 placed ZA Approval to provide the serious competition. The G2 winner Silento ran better than expected.

Is wise truly great? His record supports the this view and I am not prepared to challenge the conclusion.

I have some views for what they are worth.

In 2010 Gio Ponti won the Shadwell Mile and went on to finish 2nd to the great Goldikova in the 2010 Breeder Cup Mile. In 2011 Gio Ponti won the Shadwell Mile and went on to finish 4th in the 2011 BC Mile won by the 7YO Court Vision. Goldikova finished 3rd in her quest for a 4th consecutive victory.

In 2011 Wise Dan as a 4YO finished 4th to Gio Ponti in the Shadwell Mile and bypassed the 2011 Breeders’ Cup Mile.

Between 2012 and 2013 most of quality of milers that existed in the previous two years were out of training for various reasons.

Wise Dan was not good enough to defeat them in 2010 & 2011 and in two subsequent years he has become great. Could it be that the absence of quality milers from the scene aided and abetted this declared greatness?

To put things into perspective, Curlin’s success as a 4YO that led to his 2nd HOY title could have been aided and abetted by the retirement of Street Sense, Any Given Saturday, Hard Spun and Rags To Riches as 3YOs. This assertion in not a stretch as those horses would have been formidable opponents as 4YOs.

Is Gio Ponti great? He won the Shadwell Mile in consecutive years and then challenged the mighty Goldikova twice. Goldikova has to be the bar for greatness for turf milers. Wise Dan was not considered good enough face her in 2011 but two year later considered great.

Food for thought!

re: The Brisnet.com Ultimate Guide To Picking Horses On Top

SCATDADDY59CAE — Wed, 06 Nov 2013 14:11:34 GMT

NOW, THIS IS WHAT SHARING IS ALL ABOUT ,THANKS TO THE PEOPLES WHO HAD GOOD VIEW ON DOW, I UTUBE HIM ,, PUT 2ND & 3RD IN TRI , THIS GAME IS EASY IF YOU CAN SPOT THE FALSE FAV. ,LOVE THAT MMM! ! ! !

re: The Brisnet.com Ultimate Guide To Picking Horses On Top

Coldfacts — Wed, 06 Nov 2013 01:11:14 GMT

Below is an extract from a post I made prior to the Breeder's Cup Distaff.

"I focused on her being prematurely awarded the Eclipse for Champion 3YO female. She defeated the top fillies in the Oaks as a big long shot. She subsequently defeated two moderate fillies and caught Royal Delta on an off day. My contention is that she needs to contest the Distaff and defeat the top fillies again to solidify her claim as being the best of her age group gender.

It would be a great disservice to Beholder and Close Hatches if either should wins the Distaff and not be awarded the eclipse based on one loss to POS."

The POS fans cannot honestly now believe she deserve the Eclipse after finishing 16 1/2L last in the Distaff.

re: The Brisnet.com Ultimate Guide To Picking Horses On Top

Plod Boy Phil — Wed, 06 Nov 2013 00:40:24 GMT

seriously ?

re: The Brisnet.com Ultimate Guide To Picking Horses On Top

Sam Santschi — Mon, 04 Nov 2013 19:46:13 GMT

Melbourne Cup: 10 pm CST

Playing with 6,8,12,16,19 and 21

E/W on 12-Seville, 16-Royal Empire and 19-Simenon

re: The Brisnet.com Ultimate Guide To Picking Horses On Top

Rusty Weisner — Mon, 04 Nov 2013 16:30:20 GMT

Ironically, in the one race I was most leery of, the Juvenile, I had the trifecta. But I don't bet those often.

re: The Brisnet.com Ultimate Guide To Picking Horses On Top

Rusty Weisner — Mon, 04 Nov 2013 16:29:20 GMT

Kevin,

I have to say your picks were as good as anyone's I saw.

My betting was awful, forget the bad handicapping. I simply greatly overestimated the potential payoffs of P3 bets and spread too wide. Even if I had got my Fugue or Ria Antonia tickets I would have pretty much broken even. Even the one ticket where I got a sequence of a chalky single and two longish-odds horses I only doubled my investment. I think those payoffs used to be a bit inflated when the 50-cent bet was still a novelty. Even with the bad P3 betting and chalky winning tickets it would have been manageable, but completely face planted on the F&Mturf (lost $50 in exotics when Laughing ran up the track), $90 or something on the Classic.

re: The Brisnet.com Ultimate Guide To Picking Horses On Top

Rusty Weisner — Mon, 04 Nov 2013 16:21:59 GMT

Sam Santschi,

Thanks. I ignored the SA form, anyway, for Justin Phillip. I was of two minds but ended up saying that Justin Phillip ran his best race last year, before he broke out as a star, against a track bias in the BC. And what decided me was that no such bias was present Saturday.

That's a horrible story about punching the wrong numbers.

Unfortunately, I punched all mine correctly.

re: The Brisnet.com Ultimate Guide To Picking Horses On Top

Kevin — Mon, 04 Nov 2013 00:55:11 GMT

Frustrated looking back at my initial handicapping notes for the

Breeders Cup days. I picked my top 3 or 4 per race. If I had bet those, I would have hit 4 Pick 3s over the 2 days.

My typical problem, good handicapping, poor betting. Finished the year down $2K. All the losses wrapped around a terrible February, Derby, and Breeders Cup. Broke even otherwise.

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Secreteriat — Sun, 03 Nov 2013 19:34:35 GMT

Pardon my spelling that should have been the 7 not &. keyboard issues. Sorry

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Secreteriat — Sun, 03 Nov 2013 19:31:17 GMT

Coldfacts You are not an idiot you are human. I made a huge blunder myself. I singled N Years Day with all with all in a Tri and when I went to cash the ticket I discovered t typed 2 instead of 4.I waited till the last 2nd to make my bet and screwed it up. I know exactly how you felt. I almost quit but I stayed. Then Lady Luck struck when Caracorto was scratched and I replaced him with the & in second and hit 2 tri's in the same race because they Dead Heated.That was the first time that ever happened in 46 years of betting. What a wild and crazy day it was.

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Secreteriat — Sun, 03 Nov 2013 19:16:36 GMT

I made the blunder of the day. I keyed New Years Day with All with All for a .50c tri The track was a zoo and everyone was pressing me to hurry up. I typed 2 with all with all. Imagine my disgust when I realized I it should have been the 4. $430. Tri vanished. Almost quit then Lady luck struck when Cara Cortado was scratched and I replaced him with the 7 in the Tri's. I ended up hitting 2's Tri twice because of the Dead Heat for 2nd and third. Truly the the Thrill of Victory and the Agony of Defeat!

re: The Brisnet.com Ultimate Guide To Picking Horses On Top

predict — Sun, 03 Nov 2013 18:39:21 GMT

coldfacts,

interesting take on JC, have often wondered this myself. also have to wonder about mike smith in game on dude?

re: The Brisnet.com Ultimate Guide To Picking Horses On Top

Coldfacts — Sun, 03 Nov 2013 16:48:58 GMT

Sam Santschi,

I swear JC is riding for the mob most time. Some of his decision particularly in NY are inexplicable.

I try to avoid him in most cases. However, I liked his filly because of the even race she ran 1st time on dirt in NY and the addition of blinkers.

I would have preferred any other rider getting that race. JC has done things to my wagers that I cannot begin to describe.

re: The Brisnet.com Ultimate Guide To Picking Horses On Top

Coldfacts — Sun, 03 Nov 2013 16:44:34 GMT

CORRECTION TO MY PREVIOUS POST REGARDING - BOLD HOLDER

The colt that finished with the best energy was not Bond Holder but instead Mexikoma.

Heading into the first turn he was ahead of 3 horse but was regulated to 18L last down the back stretch.

He passed 8 horses while checking off dying horses to get running room for his 6th place finish. He was beaten no more than 4L.

That's serious colt who with expected improvement will be in the Derby mix.

Let's not forget that his sire was responsible for a Derby and Belmont winner in his 1st crop.

re: The Brisnet.com Ultimate Guide To Picking Horses On Top

Coldfacts — Sun, 03 Nov 2013 16:23:53 GMT

Monarchos Matt,

Tap It Rich ran better than I expected.

As stated if one did not like New Years Day, one should have respected that fact that his sire is world class. Street Cry has now sire two winner of the BCJ.

He could be a legitimate Derby horse.

The colt that went unnoticed is Bond Holder. If ones does not look carefully, it will be missed that he finished with the most energy.

re: The Brisnet.com Ultimate Guide To Picking Horses On Top

Sam Santschi — Sun, 03 Nov 2013 16:22:02 GMT

Rusty Weisner...., missed the second race and foolishly did not watch the replay as a commentator mentioned that flashback could not catch the winner. Anybody notice that randy moss kept talking about a speed bias all day?

Cold facts...somebody mentioned on twitter the irony of the DQ being that it benefited the rider most guilty of all of the practice of herding.

re: The Brisnet.com Ultimate Guide To Picking Horses On Top

Coldfacts — Sun, 03 Nov 2013 16:14:42 GMT

If ever there was a horse that should have won the BCC, it is Declaration Of War.

To contest America's richest race with his first effort on dirt effort and 71 day between races suggests had the heaviest handicap of the top three.

There is no doubt he is a turf horse as he was battling but not laying out like dirt horse. He use share strength and power to be competitive.

I feel so bad for Mr. Obrien as he is the foreign based trainer that has been the most supportive of the BCC.

re: The Brisnet.com Ultimate Guide To Picking Horses On Top

Coldfacts — Sun, 03 Nov 2013 15:58:03 GMT

Monarchos Matt,

If Orb wins the Cigar Mile impressively against older horses he might just have the edge.

re: The Brisnet.com Ultimate Guide To Picking Horses On Top

Coldfacts — Sun, 03 Nov 2013 15:56:10 GMT

Monarchos Matt,

If Orb wins the Cigar Mile impressively against older horses he might just have the edge.