New Year's Eve: the Ultimate Get Out Day

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Brontexx — Fri, 03 Jan 2014 15:36:39 GMT

Coldfacts the point is that PPs used as a stand alone tool, are not the way to success at the track,unless they are used in combination with your own original angles or strategies,inotherwords PPS are mostly a way for program sellers to make money that is their business, and mostly arent worth the paper they are printed on if used as an exact model of what will happen today according of what happened in the past, hence past performances.The paper they use to print them are useful for other necessities.When I make my picks solely using PPs I know that I am counting on a lot of luck,after all if they were such an accurate predictive tool then there would be a LOT MORE winning players than losers when the opposite is the case.

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Coldfacts — Fri, 03 Jan 2014 02:06:36 GMT

Brontexx,

Your last post has left me concerned regarding your state of mind. It contained the following disclosures:

Admission of previous homelessness

The viewing and wagering on fillies and colts but no geldings.

Collection of discarded programs for usage on a certain body area after a certain body function.

I am not sure how the above contributes to unlocking winners but its certainly funny.

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Coldfacts — Fri, 03 Jan 2014 02:00:28 GMT

I Just review the PPs for the Jerome field and could not believe that classic Giacnroll has a ML of 5-1. It is unlikely he will leave the gates at that price as 10-1 is more likely.

Evaluating the field from the broodmare sire angle, give a major advantage to Classic Giacnroll. His broodmare sire Storm Bird has been the broodmare sire of a Derby and Belmont winner. The records of remaining broodmare sires do not remotely compare to that of Storm Bird.

Evaluating the field from the sires angle, give Matuszak a major advantage with Classic Giacnroll a close second. Bernardini the sire of Matuszak won the Preakness and was 2nd in the Breeder Cup Classic. Giacomo the sire of Classic Giacnroll won the Derby and interestingly was 4th in the BCC behind Bernardini.

Noble Moon is the 6-5 ML favorite but I am not afraid of this colt as he returned from illness. I do not expect the other fancied runners to out run Classic Giacnroll around two turns. He will be closing best of all down the long Big A stretch and I will be on board no matter the outcome.

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Plod Boy Phil — Thu, 02 Jan 2014 21:06:48 GMT

So as not to confuse myself,

GP R10 ExB 6-10, Tri Boxes 6,10 w/ 8, 9, 11

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Plod Boy Phil — Thu, 02 Jan 2014 21:04:01 GMT

GP 10th continued...

Exacta box with the 10 Raging Atlantic, who exits the same Extreme as the failed GP 511.

Tri w/ the 8, 10, 11

re: New Year's Eve: the Ultimate Get Out Day

Plod Boy Phil — Thu, 02 Jan 2014 20:59:29 GMT

clarification: No more bottom level maiden claimers in dirt sprints

Jan 2 GP Race 10 8f Turf

5 Love My empire (4-1) has been much too close to Closer favoring Flows in each of his starts. The winners of those races each came from far back.

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Plod Boy Phil — Thu, 02 Jan 2014 19:38:32 GMT

New Resolution: I will post no more Maiden claimers.

Jan 2 Gulfstream R5

Box 6-11

WP 11 who was vs an Extreme for Speed last and is mighty dead on the board....

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Plod Boy Phil — Thu, 02 Jan 2014 16:45:33 GMT

Jan 2 Aqueduct Race 6

9 Maybrys Challenge (4-1) has been responsible for three consecutive 'one horse Zips' ( Closer favoring races), including his last when turning back to a dirt sprint in his first at this sMc35k level. Love the outside draw.

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Coldfacts — Thu, 02 Jan 2014 14:57:18 GMT

Drinks from a glass !!

There is a dollar sign icon($) It can substitute for 6 sometimes 7 letters. Your appreciation for this disclosure is expected in a liquid form. LOL

"Inexpensive food and drinks"

Are you referring the East Stroudsburg OTB? If my memory is correct there are high prices for imported beers. Even American brews are expensive unless its Happy Hour where only those equivalent to water are discounted.

The $25 Entry Fee use to include a specific meal but that was discontinued. Will that be restored?

I hope the Big A is the 2nd track as they have the competitive Jerome for 3YOs. Classic Giacnroll is my longshot pick. Go ahead an laugh!

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Drinks from a glass !! — Thu, 02 Jan 2014 03:27:18 GMT

great contest .... plod boy ....

was at the big A today .next time for sure ...

derby gal . i'll shoot for you next contest ....

trainer shivmangal entire family showed in paddock dressed for picture today .. tattoo me nw2l....he had 10 dollar exacta 2 all ... 599 dollar exacta... !!!

we played 10 win 10 place ...

pedigree ann feel better soon..

anyone in Stroudsburg pa area this sat 12 noon . 25 dollar contest at Mohegan sun Stroudsburg ,, tampa and

gulfsream...pik 10 races .bet theoretical 10 dollars per race ..win place only ...lot of fun ...

inexpensive food and drinks ...winner normally wins 900 or so depending on number of players...all bets count at track odds...

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Pedigree Ann — Thu, 02 Jan 2014 01:04:40 GMT

I know it is not fashionable these days to worry about weight, but I picked Sushi Express because of a shift in the weights - Full Ransom was picking up 6 lbs., but Sushi was picking up only 1, after not being beaten that much by 'Ransom. Five pounds looked like enough for a swing of a couple in lengths in Sushi's direction. (This is very old school stuff, much predating speed figures and all that.)

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derbygal — Thu, 02 Jan 2014 00:42:52 GMT

Thanks Phil, Mary.

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Mary Zinke — Thu, 02 Jan 2014 00:23:00 GMT

Derby Gal wins all of these :) Congrats, Derby Gal. Pedigree Ann, your pick in the Blue Norther had to break through a wall of scream for Rever De Vous. That runaway speed that came in 4th was the "race ruiner" this time. Thanks, Phil, for the fun contest.

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Plod Boy Phil — Thu, 02 Jan 2014 00:14:31 GMT

Final Standings

1st derbyGal ($20.00) - well done

2nd Mary Zinke ($15.00)

Pedigree Ann on the board with Winner Sushi Empire in the 8th at Santa Anita.

Thanks everyone.

re: New Year's Eve: the Ultimate Get Out Day

Plod Boy Phil — Thu, 02 Jan 2014 00:01:57 GMT

Correction: Fugue may still blow up the board with the 4.

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Plod Boy Phil — Wed, 01 Jan 2014 23:41:51 GMT

That knocks me out - going into the last it's down to Mary and derbyGal, as it often is.

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Brontexx — Wed, 01 Jan 2014 23:10:41 GMT

When I was homeless I used to go to the track every now and then and bet maiden races by going to the paddock and viewing the colts or fillies.

A lot of times I would grab a used discarded DRF not to use it to make picks but because I could use it to wipe my A.. after takin a dump.

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Plod Boy Phil — Wed, 01 Jan 2014 22:04:52 GMT

It looks as if the 'The Blue Norther' will go a long way in determining a winner. Mary two winners, but has used her free play with a solid winner in Fury Cap (!). derbyGal is in the lead with a $12 winner and a place horse in CR2.

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Mary Zinke — Wed, 01 Jan 2014 21:27:17 GMT

Thank you, Tapicat.

P.S., Aqueduct must not be fast-fast today. Must be slow-fast. Really hate to lose with the speed by 1 L.

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Brontexx — Wed, 01 Jan 2014 21:16:21 GMT

WOW I didnt realize yous were playin Calder in the contest.Now you will need a little more luck on this year round track with the trainers paying their stable costs yearly they have a lot of time to get their steed ready for a particular race.Theres not a lot of urgency to win this time or even next time as its open year round as a mostly claiming track.

Cant remember the number of times I have been in the paddock or close by when an obscure trainer had a $500 bet or more on a horse that on paper lost his last by double digit lengths only to win this one easily in the same class.

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Mary Zinke — Wed, 01 Jan 2014 21:07:14 GMT

Yeah for big boy Fury!

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Little Bill — Wed, 01 Jan 2014 20:17:17 GMT

Laughing in my living room right now.

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Mary Zinke — Wed, 01 Jan 2014 20:14:18 GMT

BTW, Good picks at Laurel, Ed. Just a little bad luck at the start of r8.

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Little Bill — Wed, 01 Jan 2014 20:07:54 GMT

For fun, and money, playing the Fugue/Mary/Phil tri box in all contest races.

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Plod Boy Phil — Wed, 01 Jan 2014 19:52:50 GMT

Mary -

You're killin' me....lol.

No need for my comments now.