It's Time For The Sham Now and Brisnet.com

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i812many — Fri, 17 Jan 2014 03:07:22 GMT

so close....so close.

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i812many — Fri, 17 Jan 2014 02:43:43 GMT

after what I just witnessed in the 7th @ delta downs. I Like the 5-differently even more!

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KY VET — Fri, 17 Jan 2014 02:23:58 GMT

hey mary.....the old guy is running sunday....big fav again........good luck to the old warrior.....filly #1 looks good tomorrow......shes onery!

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KY VET — Fri, 17 Jan 2014 02:20:14 GMT

hey i812......who taught you 33 days off was bad? Its a good thing.......we like the same horse.....gl

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i812many — Fri, 17 Jan 2014 01:42:11 GMT

Here we are 1 1/2 hours to post in the 8th @ Delta Downs and alive in the "let 8 ride" . Right now im leaning on the 8-prior restraint. With that said it appears that their is an abundance of early speed, which makes me look in the direction of the 5-differently. Has the speed to stalk early speed and pounce in the lane as the speed burns out. The big "chees" abandons him for the 2,another pause for concern. Big concern being his last race was a big performance, and I just cant envision a duplication on 33 days rest. Any thoughts on this race? A 79.00 win wager is certainly NOT of the norm for myself. Any thoughts or words of wisdom are openly apperciated. Of course all of this could change with the post parade.

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Plod Boy Phil — Thu, 16 Jan 2014 21:34:41 GMT

Thursday FG R7 5 Rack 'em Earl (5-1) had none chance in his debut behind the w-w winner of an Extreme for Speed. A similar move into the turn today may have him near the leaders turning for home.

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Plod Boy Phil — Thu, 16 Jan 2014 20:41:20 GMT

Rusty -

That's good news. FG is the same as it's ever been. I'm sure there will be dueling Posts here - I'll be sure to provide any wisdom I can muster.

Same as it's ever been.

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Rusty Weisner — Thu, 16 Jan 2014 17:59:53 GMT

I'm going to stick a toe in the water and try the Lecomte this weekend. Someone give me some insight into the Fairgrounds. Otherwise, I'll just look for the horse with triple-digit odds.

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i812many — Thu, 16 Jan 2014 03:19:37 GMT

Thanks Phil! Glad to be back! You are correct sir,(vet)that is the game. Bad check cost the race. Sometimes(unfortunately) that is the endgame. Good night guys. Going to fire up the grill for some late night salsiccia e peperoni! mangiare bene!

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Plod Boy Phil — Thu, 16 Jan 2014 03:10:36 GMT

My pick was just bad. I don't know Delta at all, but it looked like a legit front end win, trouble behind him notwithstanding.

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Plod Boy Phil — Thu, 16 Jan 2014 03:05:50 GMT

i812many-

Welcome back.

Very nice pick, that.

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KY VET — Thu, 16 Jan 2014 03:04:59 GMT

nice pick....but 1 horse was best.....checked bad....which made 5 check bad also........the game......

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i812many — Thu, 16 Jan 2014 03:04:11 GMT

not so stalking....

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i812many — Thu, 16 Jan 2014 03:03:34 GMT

I think 'BOOM' is the term.

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KY VET — Thu, 16 Jan 2014 02:57:38 GMT

i like the 8 horse tomorrow..prior restraint

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Pedigree Ann — Thu, 16 Jan 2014 02:49:55 GMT

Coldfacts - I think you have misjudged some of these South Americans.

Sensitivo got 200 US foals, 60% winners, 77% winners from starters. He had 13 SWs (6.5%), 3 of which won G1-type races, plus a couple of non-SWs who were multiple G1-type-placed. In all, 26 foals were SWs or SP, 13% stakes-horses. These were repectable figures.

Tatan came to this country after great success in his homeland (and many fine exports to the US), at the age of 13, and only got 3 US crops totaling 55 foals. From those 55 foals came 12 stakes horses (22%) and 6 SWs (11%). He got one G1-type winner and 4 G2-type winners, two of which were G1-type-placed. This is good work from limited numbers.

Father and son Pronto and Indian Chief were dour dirt stayers, late developers, not suited to the American style of racing any more than Sandpit was. Or the outstanding French horse Sagace, a late developing turf stayer. Or Recupere, a specialist in races longer than 12f in France and won the G3 Seneca H (13f) at Saratoga in 1975 and stood in Virginia. Practicante, another son of Pronto, had won 2 G1-type marathons in the US but was taken home to Argentina, where he became a great sire success; I doubt he would have done so in the US.

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Plod Boy Phil — Thu, 16 Jan 2014 02:33:41 GMT

Going to have to deal with the 8 in Leg 2 tomorrow as well. Ok, that decides it. Leg 1 single: 5

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i812many — Thu, 16 Jan 2014 02:32:38 GMT

doubled to the the #5-GEORGE RAY In R7....4-1, far cry from his delish 12-1 morning line.

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i812many — Thu, 16 Jan 2014 02:29:12 GMT

delta downs R8-#9 hopeshesamiracle sits a stalking chance.Gets them late.

$8w

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Plod Boy Phil — Thu, 16 Jan 2014 02:21:12 GMT

VET-

The second Leg, tomorrow's 8th, looks to have a legit favorite in the 6 Cole's Magic Vow. Might be worth going two deep here.

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Plod Boy Phil — Thu, 16 Jan 2014 01:46:47 GMT

Scratch of the 'Face' changes things a bit.

Win bet still going in as planned since I can't fear the favored 1 horse with her 2 wins and 8 show finishes from 12 starts.

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KY VET — Thu, 16 Jan 2014 01:42:16 GMT

phil.....pretty good pick.....the 3 looks way better on paper.....way better.........but i think he regresses also.......your pick and the 1 horse hometown gossip....not sure which one i like better.....3 gonna be 6/5......good luck

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Plod Boy Phil — Wed, 15 Jan 2014 23:12:09 GMT

Delta Downs Let 8 Ride

5 Aragorn's Queen (4-1) projects to enjoy a trip similar to her winning run last out. There appears to be an abundance of early speed in the race - only the 3 Little Face gives me cause for pause.

$8w 5

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Mary Zinke — Wed, 15 Jan 2014 07:48:18 GMT

"I bred to him." Keep talking. Finite. Who does that around a known stalker? Nah, not interested right now, but I did notice.

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sceptre — Tue, 14 Jan 2014 16:31:21 GMT

Pedigree Ann:

I certainly agree with your description/definition of the term, brilliance, as it applies to the racehorse, and with your examples. It's my opinion that Invasor did not fit that description, while Candy Ride and Forli did. (as an aside, I'm not contending that all brilliant runners make good stallions)...I also feel that Cougar II was a good stallion; as a matter of fact, I bred to him, as was Endeavour II...While the over used excuse, self-fulfilling prophecy, can sometimes apply to breeders' choices of mates (for example over use of sons of Northern Dancer, Mr. Prospector, A.P. Indy, etc.), their relative distain, today, for South American imports is based upon good evidence. And, no, Sensitivo wasn't a good sire, as wasn't Gentleman, Lido Palace, Indian Chief II, Pronto, Tatan, and a large host of other top S. American runners (all now almost forgotten due to their failure), many of whom were afforded good opportunity at stud in the US. But all this is somewhat tangential to your implied assertion that Invasor was not afforded sufficient opportunity to prove his merit. Elite (not brilliant) racehorse that he was, he has "proven" not to be a good sire-and the cause here is not self fulfilling prophecy.