Can't starve this fever

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Brontexx — Fri, 07 Feb 2014 14:22:05 GMT

Carlos in Cali The Cat was outta the bag when the so-called professional guaranteed Uncle Moes win in the Classic using Beyer methodology to prove his point,which in laymans terms was he was using UMs Beyer number in a mile race as proof he would dominate older horses in a mile and a quarter race.Of course Uncle Mo had never ran that far.Once he started posting this gibberish stated he was a pro I KNEW HE WAS A NEOPHYTE.

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Carlos in Cali — Thu, 06 Feb 2014 17:57:34 GMT

brontexx,

Are you sure you want to tangle with a "professional"?

Keep in mind,he routinely gets his head handed to him on these handicapping contests... Routinely!

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Brontexx — Thu, 06 Feb 2014 14:54:45 GMT

If you are not a neophyte make your pick on the next prep I dare you.

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KY VET — Thu, 06 Feb 2014 01:30:15 GMT

i'm a LOVER.......

NOT A phyter........

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Brontexx — Thu, 06 Feb 2014 00:35:20 GMT

Ky Vet you are a neophyte the only thing you have taken from me is the breakage on my wins and if Im on track I give that away to the tellers or the BUMS ON THE STREET ASKING FOR HANDOUTS.

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KY VET — Wed, 05 Feb 2014 23:49:00 GMT

brontexx........i'm a professional.....i already have taken some of your money...........

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KY VET — Wed, 05 Feb 2014 23:47:09 GMT

my new expensive horse runs in 10 days..........hard to tell how he will run.....my horses are fav.about 75 percent of the time....this one will not be.....looking , hoping for improvement off the claim.....we will see..........

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Brontexx — Wed, 05 Feb 2014 19:46:01 GMT

KY Vet if that inference was directed to me unfortuneately both my parents passed in 2005 within a month of each other.As for you I have read many of your comments on these blogs for years before I was posting and you seem to be a neophyte not a Vet.

I will post picks against you weekly to see exactly how practiced of a vet you really are.Start this week if you like you are especially dreadful with the preps and TC.Ky VET make your pick I dare you.

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KY VET — Wed, 05 Feb 2014 19:10:20 GMT

coming soon......on ESPN 30 for 30......."what if i told you....a man almost always hit the derby exacta........then, what if i told you......that he told you, that he told you so!..........then, what if he told his mom, who told him to tell his dad.........and THEN, what if he told him to tell his mom to tell him, to tell everyone in the world to tell others, that he told you so!.......

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Pedigree Ann — Wed, 05 Feb 2014 16:43:11 GMT

But on Giacomo's side, he had been placed in a lot of graded stakes races, if you include fourths, always coming at the end - Hollywood Futurity, San Felipe, Sham, etc. I actually had put him in my RTTR stable, on the basis of his HolFut run.

And by the way, Alysheba also had nothing but a maiden win, officially, coming into the Derby, too. He had been 2nd in the Breeders' Futurity and the Hollywood Futurity and third in the BC Juvie. He had finished first in the Blue Grass but been DQ'd to third for interference.

I couldn't help it - I had to look at Vincermos (We win!)'s pedigree. Pioneer would have to be a heck of a stamina incluence to overcome this bottom line - dam (by Dixie Union) was an unplaced half-sister to MT sprinter/turf miler (by long-winded Colonial Affair); second dam a multiple SP sprinter who was a half-sister to sprint champion Safely Kept. Ouch!!

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Coldfacts — Wed, 05 Feb 2014 16:32:48 GMT

Giacomo won the 2005 Derby at odds of 50-1. How can victory by a 50-1 winner be deemed impossible 4 year later. To put things into perspective, Mine That Bird entered the Derby as a 2YO champion with four victories to his credit. Giacomo had only a MSW victory. Of the two, whose victory in the Derby would be more impossible to envisage?

If Mr. Durkins knew Derby history he would have known that the first Triple Crown Winner broke his maiden in the Derby. Sir Barton had lost all six starts as a 2YO and the Derby was his 3YO debut. If Mr. Durkins was around at that time, I wonder what would have been his classification of the victory.

Mr. Durkins can be excused for the theatrics and hysteria but there is no excuse for you. You have been stuck on stupid for an indefinite period. I remain puzzled why the union that produced you was not arrested and charged at the time of your conception.

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Little Bill — Wed, 05 Feb 2014 16:24:51 GMT

Coldfacts

There's no reading between the lines with what I'm suggesting, it's obvious. Why in the world would I speak to what the Vet has seen?

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Coldfacts — Wed, 05 Feb 2014 15:55:02 GMT

Let's pretend Mine That Bird never happened.

Why? Did you make the same suggestion when Giacomo won at $50-1? Mine That Bird was the Canadian champion 2YO. Northern Dance and Sunnys Halo were also Canadian champion 2YO that won the Derby. Why is MTB’s victory being disparaged while others are not?

Was he a fluke? Certainly Not! He faced Pioneerof The Nile in the Preakness and defeated him again along with all the other Derby carry overs. He finished a battling third in the Belmont to two colts that skipped the Preakness. In so doing, he became the only one from his crop to finish on the board in all three Triple Crown races.

Anybody that suggest the gelding's victory left a nasty stain on Derby history is being blatantly disingenuous.

Definition: Not candid or sincere, typically by pretending that one knows less about something than one really does.

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Coldfacts — Wed, 05 Feb 2014 15:38:57 GMT

Fugue for Tinhorns,

“One of the biggest upsets I’ve ever seen”

Are you suggesting that the extra, tri & sup in Giacoma's Derby wasn't the biggest upset the Vet has ever seen. You focus on the winner odds but there are also odds for exotics wagers.

I do not know the age of the Vet but if I had to guess based on his mannerism, he cannot be very old.

Giacomo left the gates as $50.30 to 1 and Mine That Bird at $50.60 to 1. I am sure the Vet's claim was not based on the $0.30 difference in final odds.

If that is basis of his claim then I withdraw my rebuttal.

OK! skip the payouts. A champion 2YO from another country that win the Derby is a bigger upset than a horse with only a MSW victory to it credit. Mine That Bird had four victories before the Derby whereas Giacoma had one.

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Brontexx — Wed, 05 Feb 2014 13:33:38 GMT

I made that bet at my favorite track in my area which no longer has conventional racing but could reopen if casinos are approved in Florida(Hialeah Park)

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Brontexx — Wed, 05 Feb 2014 13:30:50 GMT

The first exacta I hit was when it was Sea Heo bested Praire Bayou and the numbers were 6-5 or 5-6 either way I cash the winning ticket.I was a neophyte then because I had Wild Gale on another ticket the 3rd place finisher.

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Brontexx — Wed, 05 Feb 2014 13:25:02 GMT

KY VET you heard right I won the exacta in 2007,2009,2010,2012 in 2008 and 2011 I had the winner and the placer but not the exacta.Ditto last year everyone had Orb I did to but not the placer.

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Carlos in Cali — Wed, 05 Feb 2014 05:39:40 GMT

Vet,

Haven't you learned,you've been WAY-OFF spotting "Derby talent".You probably liked Orb last year,but everybody and their Grandma noticed him.When was the last time Beyer picked a Derby winner using his formula?.. It's not that simple.

Barring set-backs or injuries,most of these 3yo's will improve week-to-week,while some will regress for one reason or another.I never said the Sam Davis race was lights-out,I said it's too early to write some of them off.

We'll see how things turn out come April.

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Plod Boy Phil — Wed, 05 Feb 2014 02:50:20 GMT

finally, the sheriff arrives

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Little Bill — Wed, 05 Feb 2014 02:28:41 GMT

Coldfacts

What a terrible argument with Giacomo's payouts. Closing Argument, 76=1.

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Little Bill — Wed, 05 Feb 2014 02:23:58 GMT

Vet humor strikes again. Nice.

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KY VET — Tue, 04 Feb 2014 23:21:20 GMT

brontexx.......i heard a rumor you had the exacta in the derby...........

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Brontexx — Tue, 04 Feb 2014 22:52:59 GMT

Correction I have won a bet with 1000-1 odds and I bet more than 20,but of course I didnt overbet on this exotic.I am refering to a VERTICAL EXOTIC not a bet on different outcomes which is horizontal because there is MORE THAN ONE RACE AND ONE OUTCOME.

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Brontexx — Tue, 04 Feb 2014 22:48:18 GMT

Correction I have won a bet with 1000-1 odds and I bet more than 20,but of course I didnt overbet on this exotic.

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Brontexx — Tue, 04 Feb 2014 21:51:06 GMT

Rusty Weisner guess what the odds were on the Derby future exacta in the 2009 KD with MTB in the all others and PON at over 10-1.I bet you have never won a bet with those odds,not bragging but I have won one other with those odds and I bet more.For personal reasons I wont post exactly how much I won on that one,but I will admit to winning the exacta in the Derby futures of 2009.