Belmont 146 Selections

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JayJay — Sat, 14 Jun 2014 05:33:35 GMT

Keelerman : Thanks, and yes, overall it was a great experience and yes I do have the memories. Oddly, losing my camera, the only two things still vivid in my mind was going to the track at 6:30AM and being able to watch some horses work out....I didn't know who the horses were but it was nice to actually see them work out and I was actually able to spot a lead change on one of them lol.

The other memory was seeing Rosie in person, man she's pretty.

On to the new blog...

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Brontexx — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 21:00:00 GMT

Rock man CC will never loose again

Art Sherman grate trainer

If they race him against older this year as a 3YO I think he will lose.

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Rock man — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 18:09:31 GMT

CC will never loose again

Art Sherman grate trainer

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Rock man — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 18:06:54 GMT

I sent an email telling everyone here CC is not going to win as much as I wanted him to. I watched every interview Mr Sherman had during the last 6 month . One thing I kept hearing from team CC was that 1 1/4 no problem

1 3/16 no problem but at 1 1/2 of a mile I noticed faith was not there

Another problem was CC coming out of gate also victor Espinoza not knowing the track at Belmont park

Art Sherman to me is a hall of fame trainer what he did with CC is amazing he was telling us the whole time I hope he comes out of gate without problems he told his team to train him at the gate almost every saying think he should have been with the horse the whole time himself to work him at the gate

If it was me probably twice a day I would just work him at the gate

I would also trust CC could go any distance going outside adding to the long distance was a bad choice by the jockey victor Espinoza had two good choices go to the front when they did open or Waite for a clear path to me going outside took too much out of CC

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Carlos in Cali — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 17:08:42 GMT

If KY VET is a "pro", then I invented the wheel...

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-Keelerman — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 15:40:32 GMT

Sorry for my recent absence, everyone! It's been a busy few days! But I'm back now, and working on a new blog post that will go up later today.

JayJay;

I'm not sure why the Unlocking Winners blog would have been removed from the list, but it seems to be back in place now. Perhaps the website was being worked on and they took it down temporarily.

Also, I'm sorry to hear about the disappearance of your camera at the Belmont Stakes! That's really too bad. But at least you have the memories! I hope you had a great time overall!

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Rusty Weisner — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 11:58:07 GMT

KY VET:

It's "Prayer for Relief".

Thanks for the opinion/prediction. Elaboration welcome. I actually take you seriously as a senior contributor. Here's two I went against recently because I felt something was wrong or that a "regression" was likely: WTC, Normandy Invasion.

Do you have a prediction on Goldencents? Despite the long layoff he ran a top effort. NI had problems right away after his comeback.

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JayJay — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 02:09:38 GMT

Keelerman : Any reason why the Unlocking Winners link was removed from the drop down list for Blogs on the home page ?

KY Vet : Thanks, looking forward to seeing both run this weekend. Can you explain how you determine the two will go off form ? Recent races ? Workouts ? I mean, if they do lose, you could just have been lucky. I'd like to be able to identify horses going off form before the race as well....saves me money. I'm sure others would appreciate you sharing your knowledge with everyone...

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KY VET — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 01:32:53 GMT

I will give you 2 contenders in stephen foster that look to go off form.....revolutionary, prayed belief....

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JayJay — Wed, 11 Jun 2014 17:39:20 GMT

Rusty : Also, your 06/11 8AM post, you should ask Ranagulzion regarding the 1st 3 horses in your list (SI, DoJ and Verrazano), he'll tell you that you're wrong about them, they are top class G1 caliber horses... but you have to wait and see lol. I don't know how long you have to "wait and see"... seems like indefinite lol.

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JayJay — Wed, 11 Jun 2014 16:56:13 GMT

Rusty : Good point about the "trust the trainer"... forgot about that one...lol

Ranagulzion : That's great you like that response, but did you read his entire response ? It didn't address my question lol. I know you're mad cause I picked on your SI....speaking of which, you didn't address my response to your SI comment. It's like the usual, because you can't, there's nothing wrong with the horse. I asked the same to KY and he also did not have a response. The horse is just not good, it must hurt you more because you anointed him as the TC and man, that was a very very very bad and poor pick... it's embarrassing that you picked a horse that can't even make the Derby...that's the first race of the TC jewel!! Normally, one would pick a TC winner that is already in the Derby at least hahaha. Seems like your picks gets worse every year...my bieber fanatic niece could've picked a better horse than you I think lol. You're right, this is a fun blog...

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Little Bill — Wed, 11 Jun 2014 15:10:09 GMT

SI was was only beaten a hd for second. Bayern may have run the race of his life to win by 7 1/2. It's not like SI quit at the 1/4 pole. Beaten by a better horse that day.

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Rusty Weisner — Wed, 11 Jun 2014 14:13:25 GMT

...Add Take Charge Indy to that list.

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Ranagulzion — Wed, 11 Jun 2014 13:57:45 GMT

Keelerman:

Congratulations ...this is a fun blog.

KY Vet: You're a riot sometimes (LOL). I like your response to Jay Jay 11 June 12:44 AM "am i typing english" (LMAO)

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Rusty Weisner — Wed, 11 Jun 2014 12:00:13 GMT

KY VET,

The rich irony of this is that you never even predicted Honor Code (your early choice) would go "off", not even after he was dropped from the Rebel for that Gulfstream allowance race.

That said, there's a useful and elementary point that you make, one you could make more politely: you need to pick the horses AFTER they've shown how good they are; I'll keep the advice in mind. But you're not the only one to realize horses like SI, Dreaming of Julia, Verrazano or Quality Road are bad bets after too-fast races. A little modesty, please.

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Rusty Weisner — Wed, 11 Jun 2014 11:47:16 GMT

KY VET,

Could you lend Brontexx some of the periods from your ellipses? He could use some punctuation marks.

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Rusty Weisner — Wed, 11 Jun 2014 11:34:09 GMT

KY VET,

"next, horses tell you things if you know what to look for.....sweating, nervousness, etc......there is a reason they do this......3rd, if a horse has a problem, a great race hurts them........i could go on and on, but it's like i'm talking to 1st graders...."

But that's what everyone was saying! You were making fun of everyone for observing the horse's distress, then said "trust the trainer." Why don't you make some useful points before the races are run instead of insulting people afterwards, Mr. 8-in-third-only.

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Rusty Weisner — Wed, 11 Jun 2014 11:25:26 GMT

KY VET,

You didn't even need to be on the inside to see it. This was the behavior of a drunk, and the "shame" he felt afterwards was probably genuine, as it is with drunks when they sober up. In the feel-good tv special about him and his partner he's a boisterous drinker at one point. I'm not sure what the message is: drinking and betting don't mix? It seems to have been worked for this guy.

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Brontexx — Wed, 11 Jun 2014 10:54:19 GMT

KY VET my friends on the inside tell me nbc was worried about the idiot owner before the blow up.........he was seen pounding beers all day............

Those friends are on the inside of the bar thats how they know the movements of Rooster Coburn.Did you run out of beer money or betting money first.

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Brontexx — Wed, 11 Jun 2014 10:51:26 GMT

KY VET .brontex thinks there is no skill to this

game.I have the skill to beat you back to the dumpster you sleep in.

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JayJay — Wed, 11 Jun 2014 05:50:49 GMT

KY Vet : Who said you were defending SI ? You didn't answer my question about the Foster. You still have time though, anxiously awaiting your expert analysis of who will go off form and who is the best on Saturday. Unless of course, you wait until Sunday then we're back to square one...or maybe I should say back to 1st grade...

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KY VET — Wed, 11 Jun 2014 04:47:50 GMT

my friends on the inside tell me nbc was worried about the idiot owner before the blow up.........he was seen pounding beers all day............

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KY VET — Wed, 11 Jun 2014 04:44:53 GMT

Am i typing english? I'm not defending si......i dont like him......he went off form! I said he ran a great race that day.......Listen, you people have no chance at winning in this game unless you see the future.....How did i know si would go off form? first off, he started racing late.....all the reasons for this are not good......next, horses tell you things if you know what to look for.....sweating, nervousness, etc......there is a reason they do this......3rd, if a horse has a problem, a great race hurts them........i could go on and on, but it's like i'm talking to 1st graders...........brontex thinks there is no skill to this game.......i simply know more than you people....its not hard to take your money........keep thinking that i'm lying!

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Brontexx — Wed, 11 Jun 2014 04:10:38 GMT

KY VET now all the writers blame the Rooster for all the troubles of the sport and show how a contemporarary redneck acts after getting bombed in the big apple.

Thats funny it reminds me of someone on this blog acts even without whiskey care to venture a guess as to WHO.

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Brontexx — Wed, 11 Jun 2014 04:05:07 GMT

KY VET I guess Rooster Coburn got drunk before the race and forgot that he had the best horse and just represented to the world the etiquette a California redneck that loses the triple crown displays when he is on the mike.