Opening Day at Del Mar

re: Opening Day at Del Mar

-Keelerman — Thu, 24 Jul 2014 02:04:33 GMT

Get ready, everyone! There's a terrific week of racing coming up, and it all starts on Saturday with the Jim Dandy Stakes (gr. II) at Saratoga!

Here's the link to the first of three blog posts that I will be writing this week to cover the action: cs.bloodhorse.com/.../tonalist-looks-tough-in-jim-dandy-stakes.aspx

re: Opening Day at Del Mar

Brontexx — Wed, 23 Jul 2014 21:37:42 GMT

If Brown dosent start getting winners then he wont run all his starters to win even maidens, because he cant catch Pletcher in the Saratoga trainers win totals and help his business in New York tremendously.In case you forgot this is a business and if you live in a PP world then you are just another sheep that is lead to the track to be fleeced.

If you think this is untrue get your nose back on the paper you dont understand.

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Brontexx — Wed, 23 Jul 2014 21:33:19 GMT

Today wasnt very good day for the Brown Pletcher bet compared to Friday,Saturday and Sunday 7 starters one 1st one2nd one3rd 5 starters tommorrow.If you didnt realize what was happening with Brown after his first two starters and bet accordingly you might have overbet.Pletcher has 6 wins Brown only 1 win so after Browns Bermuta failed to come in 2nd or 3rd it was only show betting for me for his last 3 starters.Its not all about the winning days its also how much you lose on the bad days.

The government dosent want its disability check recipients betting the KD future bet in November even Uncle Sam knows its a sucker bet.There is an APB out in Kentucky at all the tracks for a disabled vet that losses his check at the track.

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Plod Boy Phil — Wed, 23 Jul 2014 20:24:37 GMT

Lil' Bill -

Killin' me....lol

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Little Bill — Wed, 23 Jul 2014 18:00:18 GMT

Ky Vet, So, are you saying bet the grays, or don't bet the grays.

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Brontexx — Mon, 21 Jul 2014 21:03:49 GMT

KY VET the white jacket is crying out your name turn yourself in to the VA hospital old man.

When following a trainer becomes a generalization they will release you you will be relatively cured.Stop throwing your disability check away and being a good boy and buying the PPs early like the rest of the sheep you are a loser and the government dont want you foregoing your meds to lose all your money at the track and then becoming enraged and jealous OLD MAN that some people know how to beat this game.

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KY VET — Mon, 21 Jul 2014 20:07:48 GMT

Funny how people go on generalizations.....and think they have a chance to beat this game......bet just on the trainer? really? What a genius! When will people learn that ANY generalization that you go on will lose in the long run......every horse and every race is different.......there are no systems, no shortcuts....you must know, be an expert, on many many things........trying to pass yourself off as a winning horseplayer, is laughable......brontexx full of hot air.......why so many posts that dont say anything of value? You dont go on the form, or horses? really? 500 posts of what? Know when to bet the #1 trainer in the world? really? what else can you tell us?

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Brontexx — Mon, 21 Jul 2014 12:03:20 GMT

Dont press it let the plays come to you, if you want to try playing Brown and Pletcher at the Spa.They only have two starters today but Wednesday and Thursday they have 14 starters between them.

Thats the way to do it choose the best plays from their runners using our experienced decision making skills honed over the time we have played this game.Yes I look at the PPs but only in relation to the entrant from the barn Im following.Im not looking at the field trying to decipher whos going to the front who will be trailing etc just how the entrant fits into this race.Brown and Pletcher nearly always have animals relatively close to the pace or on it and 80% or more probably more leave the gate at less than 5-1.If you catch one of their logical contenders at more than 5-1 it could be time to increase the units wagered.

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Plod Boy Phil — Mon, 21 Jul 2014 10:45:56 GMT

Thanks

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Brontexx — Sun, 20 Jul 2014 23:03:25 GMT

PS 2 runners Monday one from Brown one from Pletcher.

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Brontexx — Sun, 20 Jul 2014 23:02:49 GMT

Keelerman

In horseracing business and betting on horseracing YOU TAKE WHATS EASY.

Today Brown ran four Pletcher ran two Mclaughlin ran one but Im not playing him at ALL 0 for 9.

So out of the six Brown and Pletcher ran 2wins 1place and 1show 66% in the money 50% win/place just like yesterday.

Coldfacts I dont know what you mean by gender specific as I am not prejudiced but you continue saying McLaughlin should be replaced and in your reply you put the onus on Darley.They dont seem to want to replace him,but since you do who would you suggest?I am not going to get into a Coldfacturation arguement and defend Mclaughlin Im having fun playing Saratoga and winning.

Keelerman I hope you capitalize on Brown Pletcher because its the start of the meet, so both are running a lot of horses now but it wont always be like that till the end of the meet.It will for Pletcher because thats how he beats Brown by having a battalion of runners but then again he does that regularly in the KD.It dosent work in that race but he has been doing it for years in New York stakes races.

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-Keelerman — Sun, 20 Jul 2014 21:54:11 GMT

With sixteen to post time for the Coaching Club American Oaks, Stopchargingmaria is the even-money favorite. As the lone graded stakes winner in the field, she probably deserves that status, but I believe she can be beat today.

One filly I like is Unbridled Forever, who has finished third in her last three starts, which include the Kentucky Oaks (gr. I) and Acorn Stakes (gr. I). Nine furlongs may be slightly beyond her best distance, but in the absence of Untapable, I believe she has an excellent chance to pick up her first grade I win.

On the other hand, I have the feeling that this race is ripe to be stolen in gate-to-wire fashion by whichever jockey seizes the early initiative. Perhaps Miss Besilu or Courageous Julie have enough speed to get the job done at respectable prices?

Really, I can make a case for every horse in the race, and it wouldn't surprise me to see any of these fillies triumph. Good luck to all!

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-Keelerman — Sun, 20 Jul 2014 19:47:28 GMT

Plod Boy Phil;

Great call on the fourth race at Arlington! Congratulations!

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Little Bill — Sun, 20 Jul 2014 19:39:18 GMT

Good call Phil.

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-Keelerman — Sun, 20 Jul 2014 17:31:34 GMT

It has been reported on DRF Live that Samraat has suffered a stress fracture and will miss the remainder of the season. :( He had been targeting a start in the Jim Dandy Stakes on July 26th.

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-Keelerman — Sun, 20 Jul 2014 15:01:23 GMT

Rusty Weisner! It's great to hear from you again! You have been missed!

You should definitely try to stop by for the Haskell if you can! It's shaping up to be a terrific race, with the projected field including Untapable, Bayern, Social Inclusion, Albano, Wildcat Red, and Medal Count, among others.

Have a nice summer!

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Coldfacts — Sun, 20 Jul 2014 14:04:39 GMT

"Who should Darley replace McLaughlin with that has a base in NY"

I changed your initial question as it was gender specific. There are female trainers operating in NY as well.

The Darley operation can do its Due Diligence to find out which consistent and successful trainer will fit their model. The operation's success rate is miniscule. It is inconceivable that operation's success rate is so poor considering the bloodlines they possess and the fact that their keep and care philosophy for their horses whether on or off the farm is second to none. They cannot be happy with the returns they are getting.

How many horses does McLaughlin saddled for the operation in the TC races? The few that he is able to get to the TC races have all finished down the track. His youngster always seem to develop issue and rarely participate in Derby preps.

What Mr. McLaughlin must realize is that if you do what you always do, you will get what you always got. What has he been getting for his major client? minimal results at best, with royal blue bloodlines horses. The through bred business is results based and a change is always useful when the desired results are not being achieved.

There are wide selection of talented trainers in NY that can move their operation in a different direction.

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Plod Boy Phil — Sun, 20 Jul 2014 13:53:41 GMT

re: Arlington, Race 4

1 Brick House Road (12-1) makes start down at this level with a fair chance to wire these following a string of overly aggressive 'vs zip' trips on this course. Interim 4f work intrigues.

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Plod Boy Phil — Sun, 20 Jul 2014 13:49:44 GMT

Rusty -

Yes.

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Rusty Weisner — Sun, 20 Jul 2014 13:31:39 GMT

Don't you miss the days when I was the most frequent commenter? At least I was trying to handicap!

So when's Saratoga begin next year, the Monday after the Belmont? I had no idea it was already on. I hope everyone's enjoying their summer. I hope to stop back for the Haskell and maybe some Saratoga later on.

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Rusty Weisner — Sun, 20 Jul 2014 13:25:47 GMT

So now Somali Lemonade decides to win a G1!

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KY VET — Sun, 20 Jul 2014 02:20:24 GMT

ONLY ONE OF OBRIENS HORSES WON......THE OTHER 4 LOST.....IT'S OBVIOUS HE NEEDS TO BE REPLACED........

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Brontexx — Sat, 19 Jul 2014 22:47:45 GMT

I passed on Pletcher at less than even money and it was Pletcher and Brown one two around the track and for the exacta 2-7.Out of those eight runners there was one winner but three 2nds so it was 50% 1st and 2nd but if you were more decisive you wouldnt have played all the races.Dont worry Sunday Brown,Pletcher and Mclaughlin have 8 runners at Saratoga.I know Mc is 0 for 8 in the money but he ran a 1st time starter today and he dosent usually send them out to win the first time.

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Brontexx — Sat, 19 Jul 2014 22:24:40 GMT

Keelerman Pletcher has one left as well as Brown Pletchers horse ran well in his last race on turf albeit at the Belmont turf course but his odds are too low for me in the win pool Ill pass but it could be a mistake.Dont you think the trainers know how their runners running lines will look in the PPs and they can legally bet as well as their owners.So Ill have to pass could be a mistake.

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Brontexx — Sat, 19 Jul 2014 22:15:00 GMT

I dutched Browns two entrants on two different ADW sites and the 9 didnt quite get there but got 2nd so I get 5.60 for every 6 bet so Im behind so far.I won on one of the ADWs and lost on the other one,beta neutral so to speak.