Kingman vs. Toronado at Glorious Goodwood

re: Kingman vs. Toronado at Glorious Goodwood

Mary Zinke — Fri, 01 Aug 2014 06:32:58 GMT

I found the article about the old guy at the track website. He looks good, happy.

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Mary Zinke — Fri, 01 Aug 2014 05:48:40 GMT

Thank you, KY, for the update. That made my day.

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KY VET — Thu, 31 Jul 2014 21:27:35 GMT

good news that youll like mary z! The old guy is learning dressage and the like......sounds like he found a good home........

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Brontexx — Thu, 31 Jul 2014 19:45:40 GMT

Well what can I tell you yesterday Pletcher had 4 starters and only managed 1 3rd when I looked the PPs yesterday I cant say I didnt expect 2 or 3 races where he would win or come in second.Are you surprised Im not today Pletcher only ran 3 because of the rain and the scratches and won two outta three.Mclaughlin ran one outta money and ALL of Browns entries were scratched I could tell you that this implies something going forward but maybe you can UNLOCK this implication with the PPs.

So 4 entries ran today 50% came in 1st or 2nd.GL to all.

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Rusty Weisner — Thu, 31 Jul 2014 14:30:35 GMT

KY VET,

I'm listening to my inner wishy-washy and skipping the Whitney card this weekend.

I can't help but ask what your website will be. About your stable? Will you invite us to it?

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Brontexx — Thu, 31 Jul 2014 14:30:19 GMT

Bloggers here are the top 7 trainers the last year 365 days on the NYRA circuit brought to you courtesy of the August Horseplayers.Check out the win ROIs on Brown and Mclaughlin yjr two trainers that I follow year round on NYRA.GL to all.

BY TRAINER sorted by wins Run Date: 7/28/2014 3:55:46 PM

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WIN WIN WIN PLACE PLACE

UDM PLAYS WINS PCT IMPACT ROI PLACES PCT ROI

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JACOBSON DAVID 874 193 0.2208 1.665 0.7947 372 0.4256 0.8689

PLETCHER TODD A 600 144 0.24 1.8097 0.882 244 0.4067 0.8516

RODRIGUEZ RUDY R 639 126 0.1972 1.487 0.805 234 0.3662 0.8086

BROWN CHAD C 419 119 0.284 2.1415 1.0144 200 0.4773 0.977

RICE LINDA 545 110 0.2018 1.5217 0.845 202 0.3706 0.8831

MCLAUGHLIN KIARAN P 348 95 0.273 2.0586 1.2088 147 0.4224 0.9858

re: Kingman vs. Toronado at Glorious Goodwood

Rusty Weisner — Thu, 31 Jul 2014 14:25:52 GMT

Keelerman,

Take a tip from KY VET and cut the nice-guy routine.

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Brontexx — Thu, 31 Jul 2014 12:54:58 GMT

Ky Vet New guy brontexx couldnt be any stupider.......you know.......the usual!

Kentucky must be a wierd place running cartoons at this late hour.

On the intelligence front Ill eat you for lunch and spit out the bones.

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-Keelerman — Thu, 31 Jul 2014 03:31:36 GMT

Mary Zinke;

Welcome back! It's great to hear from you again!

Little Bill;

Those are good questions... it had never crossed my mind before, but I'd be curious to know the answers! Perhaps they will be discovered in the near future, thanks to all of the studies on Lasix that are being conducted.

JerseyBoy;

Thanks for sharing the quote about Kingman's penultimate furlong! 10.22 seconds is positively incredible. You just don't hear about fractions like that in the final quarter-mile of a race!

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Mary Zinke — Thu, 31 Jul 2014 02:33:50 GMT

KY, You do crack me up, but I'm not trying to tick off too many lately. Need a type O. Talking about medical bills. Big funds pay mine, for which I am thankful. Wish you could show us your smile or did you mean those $$ were on kids' braces? My pick-o-meter has been out of whack, so I cannot put down anyone's handicapping or wagering, but I actually did okay at Los Al of all places. Then, lately, Had Fed Biz and Bayern, Bing Crosby exacta, but you know I love the Cali horses. Keelerman does have a very popular blog. He does a very nice job! And, KY, any word on the old guy? Did he go to a farm?

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KY VET — Thu, 31 Jul 2014 01:51:28 GMT

Hi mary z! i had another good day...... i sold all but a half......hoof problem.....2 months or so till gg.......i'm getting a website built that costs alot.....plus ive spent over 10 grand at the dentists over the last year!......hey! no much has changed, coldcuts picked a winner this year!.....ranag had another triple crown horse go bust!.....rusty still wishy washy! Keelerman loves everybody because he has to! New guy brontexx couldnt be any stupider.......you know.......the usual!

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Mary Zinke — Thu, 31 Jul 2014 00:55:31 GMT

Hi, KY, I've been away for a while, from Bloodhorse. I had to smile when I saw your bets for today. Always enjoyed those. Do you have any running lately? Or I can still stalk, ha,ha. Maybe I will have some selections for the weekend stakes. Been starting new adventures in many levels :)

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Brontexx — Wed, 30 Jul 2014 22:20:41 GMT

Brown had one winner from two starters but Pletcher only managed a 3rd with four starters,luckily for me I see all their starters in all their races at Saratoga and the betting in all those races otherwise, It could have been a bad day for me too.

Candir was his winner and paid 10.80 6.10 3.80

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Pedigree Ann — Wed, 30 Jul 2014 21:21:49 GMT

Thanks. Yeah, it must be the Curse of the Vauxhall (the brand of car they both were).

The Goodwood Cup used to be the most important race of the meeting (yes, it was! back in the days when the main target for older horses in Britain was the Ascot Gold Cup) and it looks like a corker this year. Although the Stewards' Cup, a 6f handicap, is also a major draw, because it is 30 horses, weights 136 (excuse me, 9 stone 10)down to ..., well, the lowest of the 109 still eligible is 6 stone 13 (97 lbs), but is likely to be balloted out. Sigh, I first fell in love with my border boy, Borderlescott, in this race. He went on to win the G1 Nunthorpe S, but he always came back to his favorite course for the Glorious meeting.

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JerseyBoy — Wed, 30 Jul 2014 20:57:40 GMT

Kingman's penultimate furlong in 10.22seconds.

From the Guardian:

"Briefly, Toronado’s backers may have sensed impending triumph as Kingman, asked to quicken, was slow to respond. Then came the surge that carried him through the penultimate furlong in 10.22 seconds, faster than Frankel was able to manage for any one furlong during his two victories in this race"

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Little Bill — Wed, 30 Jul 2014 20:47:56 GMT

Waiting for race 8 at Sara. Huge delay, vet scratch over heated before it could get off the track. Good eye.

Waiting raised a question about lasix. How long is it effective, or when does time effect it.

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KY VET — Wed, 30 Jul 2014 18:54:36 GMT

sar race 6...wp #8 Kelwynne.......1 win out of 2

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KY VET — Wed, 30 Jul 2014 17:03:35 GMT

suf race 2 wp #2 kevins cool kat

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KY VET — Wed, 30 Jul 2014 16:56:28 GMT

sar- race 2 wp#2 kellys prize

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JerseyBoy — Wed, 30 Jul 2014 16:41:44 GMT

Keelerman :

It would be interesting to get the splits in the Sussex Stakes.

One guy said that Kingman covered the final furlong in under 11 seconds.

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-Keelerman — Wed, 30 Jul 2014 15:58:08 GMT

Pedigree Ann;

The rental car broke down as well?! Oh my, that sounds awful! I hope the rental company pays for your taxi ride!

Have you seen the entries for tomorrow's Goodwood Cup? It's drawn a terrific field, led by Estimate, Brown Panther, and Cavalryman. The Sussex Stakes was exciting, but the Goodwood Cup -- at twice the distance -- might prove to be even more so!

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-Keelerman — Wed, 30 Jul 2014 15:40:35 GMT

The post positions for the Whitney have been drawn! What a terrific race this is going to be!

www.bloodhorse.com/.../will-take-charge-vs-palace-malice-in-whitney

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-Keelerman — Wed, 30 Jul 2014 15:35:46 GMT

Sorry I'm late in joining the conversation, everyone! I was away from the computer this morning and, unfortunately, missed the Sussex Stakes. But I just watched the replay and -- to echo English Pete -- WOW! What a run from Kingman! When his jockey asked him to run and didn't get an immediate response, I thought Kingman was in trouble. But they way he leveled off late in the race and galloped right on by Toronado... that was breathtaking!

I was also pleasantly surprised to see Darwin hold his own against Toronado, missing the runner-up spot by just a head. That was an excellent performance!

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Brontexx — Wed, 30 Jul 2014 15:27:50 GMT

Little Bill you seemed to be well practiced in this arena

Brontexx, be persistent, keep asking, sometimes no doesn't mean no.

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Little Bill — Wed, 30 Jul 2014 14:39:46 GMT

Brontexx, be persistent, keep asking, sometimes no doesn't mean no.