Turf Milers Take Center Stage at Saratoga

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JerseyBoy — Fri, 15 Aug 2014 18:09:16 GMT

TnT:

Self-identification can lead to extreme hilarity.

Those Amazon Warriors did crush those Tallawahs. Time for Chris Gale to bat at number 4.

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Brontexx — Thu, 14 Aug 2014 22:31:19 GMT

Little Bill BPM 3-1-0-0 Blofeld gets up near the wire.

Warning not a coded submission.

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Little Bill — Thu, 14 Aug 2014 21:03:46 GMT

Btex, can you sum that all up? I'm getting a little lost in the verbiage.

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Secreteriat — Thu, 14 Aug 2014 20:47:05 GMT

We have a good 2 yr old running Saturday in the ^th race

Bold Crusader (6) by Curlin by One for Jim.

Steve A is very high on this horse.He is a hombred Coldfacts would approve of his breeding! One for Jim is an offspring of Jersey Girl and Distorted Humor.

Hopefully he will break his maiden and head to the Champaign at Belmont. Don't expect big odds but 5/2 or better would be great! G L

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Brontexx — Thu, 14 Aug 2014 19:25:39 GMT

Like I previously stated no urgency by Johnny V no whip used in the stretch, although I knew Blofeld was going to get there when they rounded the turn the only question was it going to be a photo finish or not.As I stated didnt play the DD Bar of Gold was bet down in the DD also and there were 3 selections at less than 10-1 in the double. BPM today 3-1-0-0 not 3-0-1-0 although it just as easily could have been.GL to all

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Brontexx — Thu, 14 Aug 2014 19:01:31 GMT

Pletchers colt will leave the gate at 3/5 4/5 if there is any late money on another but I doubt it.His colt should finish 1st or 2nd but Im not in and there is one exacta with the four on top paying 3-1 amd there is 4 others so keying him on top with all is not a play.

I can report BPM now its either 3-0-1-0 or 3-1-0-0 but Im not playing there are much better Pletcher plays believe me.What is his colt has a bad day and dosent come in Johnny V and Pletcher dont have a lot of urgency in getting a good race outta Blofeld its not the start of the meet and Pletcher is 10 wins ahead of Brown.GL if you bet.

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Brontexx — Thu, 14 Aug 2014 18:50:09 GMT

Didnt play Lady Daphne did you notice the late betting on Bar of Gold she became the 2nd choice and I cancelled my place and show bets.This is MSW.

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Brontexx — Thu, 14 Aug 2014 18:33:36 GMT

Looked at the odds for the double and Im not going to play the double its either bet Browns filly in a verticle bet WPS or not and then bet Pletchers colt.The Brown Pletcher double is 7-1 right NOW Browns filly is at 5/2 which pays 7 dollars to win not saying Im betting that but I look at ALL the pools WPS and exactas amounts and percentages and take almost all the time on the clock.

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Brontexx — Thu, 14 Aug 2014 18:04:00 GMT

Dont ask me to explain all the reasons why I didnt bet the first BPM but Ill sum it up by one word experience.Their is no free lunch in ANY betting strategy you gotta know how to play it and thats what you get from following a simple format such as BPM knowledge from a different perspective that forces you to create and become a much better player because Pletcher and Brown dont have many that go to post that arent favorites..BTW Brown made money in that race but their is no name and no pool for betting 4th for us players.

I will be looking for a DD in the 5th and 6th but not Brown Pletcher.I will use Brown only as a hedge to win in case Castellano finds out Lady Daphne has a good shot once the race starts and rides accordingly.Pletcher has the most obvious winner in the 6th but all the colts left are first time starters and the bettors as a group know Pletcher excels in this category plus the pps read a bullet work and other positive stats so he could go off at less than even money no value in that.

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Brontexx — Thu, 14 Aug 2014 16:42:54 GMT

TNT only 3 starters left for BPM one was scratched.I think all three will be the favorites in their races so just betting all three to win for the same amount wont work unless all three win.Brown is the key today as he has the 1st starter and two of the three.Pletcher scratched his other 1ster in the 6th so the one remaining will probably be the lowest price of all three starters today in BPM.Brown is not really that good with 1sters so his 1st time starter in the 5th could, and I say that with a capital C go off as the 2nd choice.When punters view the PPs they will see that Brown has won 10 races at this meet so he still might go off as the favorite.The good thing about MSW races especially at a 40 day meet is that the odds give you up to date clues on starters that drop precipiously from their morning line odds.That means they have been working well leading up to the race.

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TnT — Thu, 14 Aug 2014 14:13:20 GMT

Looks like a good day for BPM, some nice starters.

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JayJay — Thu, 14 Aug 2014 05:23:00 GMT

Not surprising Coldfacts didn't respond to my post. It's always the case when he doesn't have the answer.

Keelerman : Looking forward to your P4 selections for this weekend. I specially like the hard P4s, that's where the money is.

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-Keelerman — Thu, 14 Aug 2014 02:16:20 GMT

TnT;

Sorry for my late reply! I'm working on this week's blog post right now, which will cover the three grade I races at Arlington Park. They do look pretty wide-open! I'm thinking of taking a shot with Side Glance in the Arlington Million, although Magician does look like a solid favorite.

The pick four linking the four major Arlington stakes races looks pretty intriguing. The Arlington St. Leger looks like the toughest leg to survive, although the Beverly D. looks difficult as well. I have the feeling this could be a very nice-paying sequence for those that survive it!

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Brontexx — Wed, 13 Aug 2014 22:51:11 GMT

JerseyBoy So to decipher your reply in the matter of coded submissions, Nolo contendere.I think Ill have to see if the toy store KY Vet shops at for his toy horses sells decoder rings online, because the Locksmith never left the codes behind to crack coded submissions.Shandler on the other hand left his cartoon behind to run amok on the blog until that is the government catches him.

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TnT — Wed, 13 Aug 2014 21:23:19 GMT

Just so happens Trinidad & Tobago is playing Jamaica in a knock out T20 cricket match as we speak, of course I'm backing Trinidad.

Big deal in the Caribbean

Not sure who my Caribbean counterparts are.........sorry if I have confused others.

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JerseyBoy — Wed, 13 Aug 2014 20:37:29 GMT

Brontexx:

First, if Kingston Hill is off at more than 2-1, and he wins, I will get some J&B, High Octane, for myself and my Jamaican friend. She might even like it.

Next, your question.

“Jersey Boy you are alleged to have posted a coded submission with a malicious intent to ridicule a long time contributor to this blog, who happens to have been born in Jamaica. What do you say to the allegations sir?”

Brontexx, my answer to your question is exactly your answer to the following question:

If I say repeatedly, on an anonymous blog, that trainer X uses a prohibited substance on his horses to enhance their performance, and I provide no evidence of this, would you see that as malicious?

Your answer to my question is also my answer to the question you posed.

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Brontexx — Wed, 13 Aug 2014 19:47:51 GMT

Jersey Boy you are alleged to have posted a coded submission with a malicious intent to ridicule a long time contributor to this blog, who happens to have been born in Jamaica.What do you say to the allegations sir?

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TnT — Wed, 13 Aug 2014 19:23:49 GMT

Coldfacts, only I arrived at that conclusion not Pedigree Ann.

I will only back Game on Dude in 10F races if there is no pace, his record maybe the best, but I only like him if a race sets up for him, not usually the case in the big ones.

I appreciate your comments, and you probably have the facts to blow my argument out of the water.

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JerseyBoy — Wed, 13 Aug 2014 18:57:39 GMT

Kingston Hill should win on Saturday at Newbury.

The fact that Kingston appears in the horse’s name is purely a coincidence, even though one of my closest friends is from Kingston, Jamaica. She gave me a disc of Bob Marley’s -If da cap fits, let dem wear it.

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Coldfacts — Wed, 13 Aug 2014 15:11:35 GMT

Brontexx,

When submissions are written in a coded from and directed to a certain contributor, very few will recognize the intent of the submission. Below are examples.

Mitigating factors was a term used in one of my submissions. I am no lawyer but I considered the usage of the term appropriate. WTC was being penalized for a sub-par performance in the OK handicap without factoring in the adverse impact of the two brutal raced he contested in Florida & CA. Mitigating factors if any come into play during the penalty phase of sentencing.

A contributor who has seen it fit to advise all that both he and his wife are lawyers had to comment on the context in which the term was used. How dear the dish washer Coldfact use a legal term he is unqualified to use.

“(By the way, if I wanted to say” I had the winner” in the Whitney,I can always tout half the field so I can say-I told you so. It is a nice tactic but integrity must be maintained"

I gave an overview on some of the fancied contenders in the Whitney i.e., Departing, Moreno, Itmyluckyday, WTC, Romans. Nowhere in of the overviews did I specify that a particular horse was my definitive choice to win.

Why would anyone think that subsequent to the race, I would see it fit to claim a winner from the group if I had not made a definitive selection beforehand? There are no prior examples of this.

Only person with sinister mind and one who has spared no effort to ridicule and discredit me in the past would conceive such thoughts.

“The trainer had an employee who visited an island in the Caribbean, where a few athletes have been disgraced in a “high octane” scandal.”

I have referred to Mr. Todd Pletcher as a trainer with a High Octane Program. It is also no secret that I am a native of island of Jamaica. For those that do not follow Track & Field, five Jamaican athletes returned Adverse Analytical Findings in their samples taken at the Jamaican trials for the 2013 World Championships.

The submission from which the above extract was taken was composed in a coded and humorous form but it was vehemently clear to whom it refereed.

The party in question use to make direct submissions but now choses to make coded submissions. He knows that I know when it is done.

He has an acutely low opinion of me but he is to be forgiven as he is adversely affected by elitism and a superiority complex.

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Coldfacts — Wed, 13 Aug 2014 13:52:42 GMT

TnT,

"Totally agree Pedigree Ann, I believe Tonalist and WTC, are the best 10f horses in the US."

Kindly take no offense but I am forces to pose the following question:

How did you and Pedigree Ann arrive at such a conclusion?

Will Take Charge Has contested four 10F races wit a record of (1-2-0)

Tonalist has never contested a 10F.

Game On Dude has contested fourteen 10F races with a record of (6-3-0) He has not been retired and consequently has to be the best 10F horse in the country.

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Brontexx — Wed, 13 Aug 2014 11:38:52 GMT

CFs reveal the facts, come clean, lets hear your admission of those submissions in question.

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TnT — Wed, 13 Aug 2014 10:46:19 GMT

Totally agree Pedigree Ann, I believe Tonalist and WTC, are the best 10f horses in the US.

I have been against them at 9f

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Pedigree Ann — Wed, 13 Aug 2014 08:45:34 GMT

Re: Tonalist. I read an interview with his owner about how he came to buy him. I paraphrase because I can't locate the original. "All the buyers wanted to buy the grey Tapits because they look like Tapit. This one was more Pleasant Colony in looks than Tapit and the people wanting Tapits didn't bid on him." Pleasant Colony was a proper stayer, off the board in his only sprint tries, all stakes wins at 9f or more. Won the Derby, Preakness, Woodward, Wood Memorial, second a head in the Travers (no BC in those days). Sometimes a horse takes after Mum's side of the family, not Dad's.

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JayJay — Wed, 13 Aug 2014 06:41:41 GMT

Keelerman : With Bayern confirmed to go, do you expect Tonalist to be much closer to the pace ? I think the Haskell showed he needs to be much closer to the pace to have any chance. I'm curious if Wicked Strong will end up rating behind those two. If he fails to be competitive in the Travers, I'll have to say that the distance of the Belmont helped him rather him winning it with talent. In fact, if he doesn't win the Travers, I won't be surprised if he doesn't ever win again.

Coldfacts : You call it confusion, I call it distortion of facts on your end. The fact is, I'm the one that calls you out with your so-called facts and when push comes to shove, you post a million paragraphs to try and distract me. Your responses to me reflects it. You ignore the things which you have no answer for, it's okay, you refusing to address my questions says everything. I'll continue to set you straight when you "facts." Like I said, when you post your version of a fact, it's called opinion, not cold facts. It may take years for that to sink in but I'll be here to remind you hehe.