Cases of Mistaken Identity

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Cris — Sat, 20 Aug 2011 17:48:33 GMT

I think the buck should stop at the racing secretaries office. After all who approved the horse for those races? The horse did not approve herself and neither did the trainer. I agree with "scrabble" instead of looking for someone to blame there should be a program in place that takes following rules by the book without exception. There is probably no rule against this since if you recall Conquistador Cielo ran and won the Belmont Stakes five days after winning the Metropolitan Mile. Is it possible the trainer was unaware this horse had been running this close together? Does he have a asst. trainer, someone new? Is it possible that he entered the horse for all the races just attempting to get in one and he was out of town and she got in all? I can't believe a trainer with experience would do something like this on purpose. I am aware of his record, but this is over the top even for him. Who is the owner? The owner would get a call when his horse is running and the owner has a part to play in this as well.

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Pedigree Ann — Sat, 20 Aug 2011 17:35:30 GMT

It is not particularly unusual to see horses running 2-3 times in a two week period in Britain; when a horse is in form and due for a rise in his handicap rating, the trainer will run him in whenever possible. Not uncommon to see horses run twice during the one-week long Royal Ascot or Glorious Goodwood meetings. But, of course, these horses haven't been dehydrated repeatedly by Lasix use.

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scrabble — Sat, 20 Aug 2011 04:54:04 GMT

Where are the track personnel to stop this Dutrow running this filly into the ground? Racing secretary should have some discretion as well as the track vet. Focusing on Dutrow alone takes the heat off the track officials who ARE charged with track safety. And jockeys do not have to ride the horse. Get serious. They are all responsible. Stop whining about black eyes for the sport and insist that track officials do a job.

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Criminal Type — Fri, 19 Aug 2011 23:17:50 GMT

Strange day at Saratoga no doubt.

Before anyone jumps on me, I am not defending Rick Dutrow. Rick has been in this business for many many years. He knows running a horse 4 times in 11 days is insane! He may have even told the jock to just canter her around. You have to take into consideration that Rick Dutrow is the trainer, trainers take orders from owners. They can object, to the choices the owner makes, but it's still the owners call. The only thing Dutrow could do was refuse to enter her and lose the horse. After that it is a trickle down effect, your other owners hear about it and maybe they move their horses too, pretty soon you have an empty barn. While this might be a good thing and Dutrow is not my favorite trainer, no one can argue his success, Big Brown & Kip Deville being the first two that come to mind. The fact's are, we do not know all the facts. No one does except Rick.

As far as his license goes, I think New York is waiting to see what Kentucky does. I think the odds are against him losing his license. Most fans think he should, Most of the other trainers do not. This is not a precedent they wish to be set.

Dutrow denies knowing anything about the medication that was found in his barn while he was away. Has anyone considered he might be telling the truth? Stranger things have happened...Just as Tom Durkin.

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BShine — Fri, 19 Aug 2011 21:38:28 GMT

This whole business with Indian Tale just breaks my heart and disgusts me all at the same time. Rick Dutrow is an idiot!! That poor filly deserves better than to be run like this....I say a prayer every time I hear that she's going to hit the track.

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mz — Fri, 19 Aug 2011 20:16:34 GMT

Ha! Speaking a s a proud Italian-Canadian, what the heck is Durkin doing not calling "Italian Wedding"?

I guess everyone can have a bad day (this makes me feel marginally better since I am not having particularly wonderful times right now -- how come one has to come HOME from holidays -- just to pay for them? -- I'm not bitter.....)

And on point: as Profileman said: didn't Dutrow get his licence pulled in NY too?

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Dick Downey — Fri, 19 Aug 2011 17:48:48 GMT

Speaking of Rick Dutrow, I wonder what ever happened to the hearing to revoke his license to train horses in the State of New York?

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kittybay — Fri, 19 Aug 2011 17:42:28 GMT

Leave it to Dutrow to run a poor filly 4 times in 11 days. How is that even allowed? Man this guy needs to lose his license.

I would have loved to hear Tom Durkin call "Whoa, they started the race!" Now that's funny :)

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pabred — Fri, 19 Aug 2011 17:33:17 GMT

Dutrow needs to get out of racing. Four starts in 11 days? Who does this?

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dixiebandfan — Fri, 19 Aug 2011 17:26:08 GMT

Chernobyl's Hero was named for the Chernobyl Children's Project International, a charity that provides, among other things, life saving surgery for children born with birth defects from the nuclear disaster. Moved by the Academy Award winning documentary, Bill DiScala, owner of Karakorum Corp. (racing as Karakorum Farm), decided to contribute 25% to the charity from the proceeds of his homebred gelding by Crytoclearance out of Karakorum's Lisa. One might take issue with all of the horses with Karakorum in the name, but Chernobyl's Hero has a name associated with a heart wrenching cause and has been a solid producer throughout his career. Sound as could be and reeling off 10's on the sheets, there still appears to be more in the future for this fine seven year-old. He was a hero yesterday, for certain.

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Stretchrun — Fri, 19 Aug 2011 14:07:01 GMT

I absolutely LOVE Tom Durkin! The best replays to watch and hear are his. Tom seems like a humble, grateful man who has a lot of fun at his job. Yakahickamickadola! Arrrrrrrr! It's a FILLY in the Belmont!

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Greg J. — Fri, 19 Aug 2011 11:44:11 GMT

Vic,

Crazy day indeed!

Thank you for bringing up Indian Tale. This three year old filly should never have been allowed to run in this race. DICK Dutrow and J.W. Singer should be ashamed for allowing her to race for the fourth time in eleven days, and she is entered in Sunday's Lake Placid Stakes as a MTO entry, this would be her 5th race in two weeks! Yes, I know she will not run, but, with DICK involved, anything is possible. Why this so called man is still allowed to train is beyond me, people like him are what gives this great sport a black eye.