Q & A With Carl Nafzger

This time one year ago Carl Nafzger was the hottest name in the sport. His tremendous 3-year-old Street Sense was just starting his campaign to the 2007 Kentucky Derby, beginning with his victory in the Tampa Bay Derby. Earlier this week I caught up a considerably less busy Nafzger to ask him to recall, among other things, his spectacular ride.

JS: I guess things are a lot less hectic for you compared to this time last year?

CN: A lot less hectic. I don't know why people stopped calling me. I can't figure out what I did to them. I'm certainly not as popular this year.

JS: Just a guess, but it may have something to do with Street Sense. Speaking of Street Sense, the ride he took you on last year was magical. What was your favorite part of the whole experience?

CN: It's hard to say. I enjoyed all of it. He was such a great horse and I enjoyed watching him take all the steps from the Breeders' Cup Juvenile to the Kentucky Derby. Every time there were questions about, would he move forward or would he get enough out of each race, he answered it.  Just watching him through the whole ride was fun. There was some anxiety, but I never had any doubts. If it was meant to be, it was going to happen.

JS: Was there any part of the whole experience, perhaps the intense media focus, that you did not enjoy?

CN: No. It's all part of it. The hardest part of success is dealing with the responsibility of success. You have to be responsible in life. It comes with the territory.

JS: You really did seem to enjoy the ride. Some trainers are not as approachable as you were during the road to the Derby.

CN: Well, it was my second time going through it. I knew what to expect (from Unbridled in 1990). I learned that you have to enjoy the moment. You can't get too worked up about winning. You're at the Derby, it's a once in a lifetime experience, so just relax. I knew I wouldn't be there without the horse, so just enjoy the moment.

JS: You don't have any horses on the Derby trail this year. From an outsiders perspective, who do you like?

CN: Well, you have to like War Pass and Pyro. Pyro looks like a terrific horse and will have the seasoning going into the Derby. But if I had to pick one right now it would be War Pass. Nick (Zito) has done a great job with him. As a trainer, you love consistency. Consistency is more important than winning and War Pass has always showed up. I like the path that Nick is taking with him too. He will have a very fresh horse on Derby day.

JS: How many horses do you have in training now?

CN: I only have about eight or nine. It's nice that Lady Joanne (Alabama winner and most recently, 4th in BC Distaff) is on her way back. She just started training again and will probably run sometime this summer.

JS: Any late-blooming 3-year-olds?

CN: I have one nice colt by Gone West, but he is a big horse that will take more time to develop. I'm at Ocala right now trying to find the 2009 Kentucky Derby winner (laughs).

JS: Being a finalist for the Hall of Fame must have been a nice way to start the year?

CN: Oh, it was. It was a great honor. It will be terrific if I get elected at Saratoga this summer.

14 Mar 2008
1:21 PM

Comments

Carl is one of the classiest trainers we've ever had. He's a Hall of Fame lock, a Guiness Book nice guy, and a great talent.

He also dropped a few bucks in my tip bucket at Gulfstream Park (I'm a musician), so he's got good taste in music, too!  :)

Ernie Munick 14 Mar 2008 2:36 PM

The odds of a BCJ winner, winning the Kentucky derby,two years in a row; when it was never done before, is statistically very slim. Added to that, only one horse in history with a Raise A Native dams sire line, has ever won the derby. Considering War Pass is a RAN horse, makes the idea of him winning the derby even less probable

Tomcito 14 Mar 2008 2:36 PM

Street Sense's victory in the Juvenile was just filth, he ran so fast that Trevor Denman never called his name until he had about an 8 length lead...What do you think of Visionaire, he reminds me of Street Sense?

Mikie 14 Mar 2008 4:06 PM

love horse racing

horsesinky 14 Mar 2008 4:19 PM

Carl: thanks for doing this. I love your book and thank you sooo much for writing it. I am an aspiring trainer and it was a great help in my dreams. You are a really great guy and I hope the best for you in the future. And Congratulations on getting inducted into the hall of fame this summer!

horsesinky 14 Mar 2008 4:22 PM

wasnt both of your travers winners street sense and unshaded raised by collier mathes? he also raied tomecito. maybe you should get mr. tafel to go and purchase him. might be another derby winner. the horse might need some help.

fred wiley 14 Mar 2008 8:53 PM

Mikie, Let's be honest...Street Sense was  a super racehorse (who had the benefit of an outstanding trainer) but he didn't travel at the speed of light.

Trevor Denman didn't call Street Sense's move until he was long gone because he was (on this very rare instance) caught asleep at the wheel.

Cloudy 15 Mar 2008 12:03 AM

Carl and his wife have always had a first class barn and were a great team and will always be. Carl will always tell you it's the horse that makes the trainer. Say hello for me.

Duane Clark 15 Mar 2008 9:16 AM

Carl Nafzger is a class act; he is so appreciative of all that he has earned by his hard work. May he be elected to the Hall of Fame this year!

Mary 15 Mar 2008 10:25 AM

Mr. Nafzger is a true gentleman. I love to see him at the races at Keeneland.

Leo Green, M. D. 15 Mar 2008 11:55 AM

MR.Carl Nafzger will always be one of the greatest ambassadors to "the sport of kings". He is genuine. He is selfless. A personification."He's going to win Mrs. Gentry, HES GOING TO WIN".

(1990 Kentucky Derby Winner Unbridled)  

CARNIESCARD 16 Mar 2008 1:29 PM

Mr. Fred Wiley I do not know where you get your information but I understand both STREET SENSE and TOMCITO were raised by Drew Nardiello's Chesapeake Farm. One more thing, you said when writing about (Tomcito) "the horse might need some help" could you tell us why? I like to see this horse in the next Derby Poll and put couple of dollars on him.

Ricardo Benites 16 Mar 2008 7:02 PM

Who's your top 3 picks for this years Kentucky Derby?

Jamie21Williamson 17 Mar 2008 10:42 AM

Just who was the manager of chesapeake farm when these 3 horses were raised?  Just because Mr. Nardiello owns the farm doesn't mean he put his hands on any of these horses. Where is chesapeake now, since Collier Mathes has left.  Tomcito does need some help... they are going to work the legs off of him before he even races in the states.  How many bullet mile works has he put in now?

Nic Selby 17 Mar 2008 12:23 PM

Jamie: I will come out with my top seven next week, but as for now, Pyro and War Pass are still my top two, even with War Pass' loss. He is entitled to one bad effort. My third choice is tough because there are so many with just one graded win, but I may have to go with Visionaire right now. I like his running style.

jshandler 17 Mar 2008 1:13 PM

Like Street Sense's race in the Juv. colts victory on Breeders Cup day, he foreshadowed his chance for the big race. Big Brown displays this same feeling but his feet may be his only competition to the big race prize when he showed his ability to run on dirt 3/5/08 in GP allowance 7th race.

racetrackdave 18 Mar 2008 12:21 PM

Carl is nothing but one class act. This guy is what being a trainer is all about. Thanks for the many winners you've given me at Churchill Downs. Best of luck in the future, I hope you find another Derby winner.

Guninpocket 18 Mar 2008 12:41 PM

The probables for the DubaiWorld Circus on 3/29/08 are on the web site. It looks like Asiatic Boy will face Curlin in the World Cup.

racetrackdave 18 Mar 2008 12:57 PM

A hall of fame job with street sense 2006-2007.you got my vote. maybe they will count it.

Joe 18 Mar 2008 8:50 PM

It's always great to see the real NICE guys come out on top. You know, the guys who are in it to enjoy it and let the horse take them where they're going. Carl Nafzger proved he was a class act when, with true gentlemanly empathy, he called Unbridled's Derby for his owner and thanked her with that heartwrenching, "Oh Mrs. Genter, I love you!" What a great way for a trainer to thank an owner for giving him a wonderful ride! I hope we see more Nafzger horses out there. They'll be winners, no matter where they place; horses with connections who care are the best winners of all. Thank YOU, Mr. Nafzger, for giving US a wonderful ride too.

Breeqy 18 Mar 2008 9:39 PM

Mr. Nic Servis,

I don't know who Collier Mathes is, but I saw couple of consigment from Chesapeake in the last couple of sales and I was very impress. They were very professional in every aspect and a good friend tells me that Mr. Nardiello is a hands-on owner. Obviously doing a good job if he is raising triple crown prospects. Anyhow I don't think a farm manager is the sole responsible for the success of a farm... There has to be a nutrition program, pasture management, good workers, etc.

Ricardo Benites 20 Mar 2008 12:24 AM

One more thing Nic,

Because the connections of Tomcito feel neccessary given their horse a foundation by means of brezing him couple of mile works doesn't mean they are trying to hurt the horse. Tomcito is trained by Dante Zanelli who is the nephew of Tomcito's trainer in Peru (Juan Suarez). Mr Suarez happens to be the 4th leading trainer by wins in the world with more than 6,000 victories. Zanelli and Suarez are working together in bringing Tomcito up to racing level. I'm sure Mr. Suarez knows what he has to do to get their horse ready. I think the only barrier will be the class: Do they belong in the Classics with a $7,500 horse or not?

Ricardo Benites 20 Mar 2008 12:35 AM

I have had the great pleasure of calling Carl a great friend for many, many years. I stand amazed how humble he remains with all the success he has enjoyed.

Any award he receives he is more than deserving.

He is a great trainer, individual, and a friend.

May God Bless you and Wanda.

Ejlafran 04 Apr 2008 10:00 PM

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