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Post Derby Thoughts

Kentucky Derby 137 has come and gone, and before we move on to the Preakness let's take a few moments to dissect the race. I have several observations, but let's start out with the winner.

Congratulations to Team Valor, Graham Motion, John Velazquez, and the people that correctly sniffed out Animal Kingdom as the winner. He was a horse that I used in some of my tickets, but I did not back him for the win because he had too many question marks. Actually, the fact that he was a synthetic/turf horse making his first start on dirt was not the major negative for me. One of these years it was going to happen and let's be honest here, this was an extremely average group of 3-year-olds. This was a logical year for it to go down. As you know, I also backed Brilliant Speed, who was coming out of the Blue Grass. Because of the mediocrity of the field, I was open to anything this year.

The major negatives for me were that Animal Kingdom was so lightly-raced and that he came out of a prep, the Spiral Stakes, that wasn't a particularly strong race. I just didn't feel like he was well enough prepared to win the Derby off of four starts and a six-week layoff. If you would have asked Graham Motion before the race, he would have had the same concerns. Don't forget, this horse had a terrible work at Keeneland two weeks before the race.

As it turned out, he was peaking at the right time and had karma on his side. Couple those things with a perfect pace scenario (more on that in a minute) and you have a 20-1 upset winner.

The switch to John Velazquez from Robby Albarado was both fortuitous and a gutsy move by Barry Irwin and Graham Motion. It was Irwin that made the final decision to make the switch, but it was Motion that first recommended it on Friday when Uncle Mo was scratched. Velazquez is a better rider than Albarado and when he became available, give Motion credit for pulling the trigger. And if you believe in karma, then you have to believe that the two jockeys got what they deserved. I'll leave it at that.

Motion is a complete gentleman and deserving winner. You can't help but to be happy for a guy like that. He treats everyone in his barn with respect, is an honest guy with a clean past, and is a dedicated family man. In talking to his mentor, Jonathan Sheppard, after the race, I learned that Motion was not the natural horseman that I assumed he was. Sheppard said when he came to work for him as a 19-year-old from England, he was still kind of searching for what he wanted to do in life. His parents were both in the industry and kind of nudged him in that direction, but Motion was still not certain. At first, he wanted to be a rider but that wasn't in the cards. He struck Sheppard as a guy that was still kind of searching to find himself and it was only over time that Motion became passionate about training. Sheppard turned out to be the perfect mentor for Motion and all worked out for the best.

Sheppard, a Hall of Famer with both jumpers and flats, has now mentored two Derby winners--Motion and Barclay Tagg. "Now I have to get one for myself," he joked.

Irwin has taken some criticism for taking shots at trainers and racetracks in his post-Derby press conference. I have mixed feelings about the subject. I was at that press conference and was kind of puzzled that he would use one of the happiest moments of his life to bring up those subjects. It seemed out of place and was probably not the classiest thing I have ever seen. On the other hand, Irwin was probably right in what he had to say. Being in the industry for so long in many different aspects, he knows as well as anyone the way this sport really operates. He obviously has been lied to a number of times by trainers and is not happy about how racetracks treat owners. I give him credit for being honest; he has always been a straight shooter. I'm just not sure he picked the right time to do it.

As for Animal Kingdom, take nothing away from him. He was a deserving winner and a horse that has a bright future. I hope he runs well in the Preakness and gives us a thrill heading to New York. Being lightly-raced and peaking at the right time, Animal Kingdom has a lot going for him. But I think he will have a difficult time winning the Preakness.

I don't see any way he will get the favorable pace set up that he got in the Derby. The opening quarter, half, and six furlongs were the slowest Derby splits we've seen in more than 20 years, allowing him to stay within striking distance of the leaders. Yes, he ran a fast final quarter (:24.09), but that is to be expected after how slow they went early. In many ways, the 2011 Derby was run like a turf race. Go very slow early and make a big charge at the end.

There is no way the Preakness will shape up like that. There is some legitimate speed coming to Baltimore, including Flashpoint and Dance City. It will be a completely different race from a pace standpoint. That doesn't mean that Animal Kingdom can't win, but he won't have things set up as nicely for him.

Finally, just one last thought here. It seems that every year there a number of Triple Crown contenders that we never hear from again after the Derby. That is the nature of the race. Many horses are thrown into the race for a fleeting chance at glory. It's understandable. This year in particular, I'm predicting that 16-18 of the Derby runners we just saw will not be factors when the big races are run this summer and fall. Some will return to synthetics/turf, most will step down in class, and unfortunately, others will not race again.

I don't think we saw the best 3-year-olds in the Derby. We will have to wait and see how the year plays out, but I have a feeling there are some horses returning from the sideline and late-bloomers sitting out there that we won't hear from until later. The white-haired guy on the left coast is stacked and is holding a very strong hand.

169 Comments:

I didn't have AK but think he may be a better horse than we all even think now.  Sure, he has only run 5 times but he has never finished worse than second.  In addition, his two losses have legitimate excuses (based on DRF Form notes).  I think a 3 year old with 5 starts who just ran a 103 Beyer has every chance to keep improving.  AK also seems to have a turn of foot much more impressive than his peers.  Not saying he will win the Preakness, and I agree with you on the pace scenario, but I would not dismiss him and I certainly think he is going to be heard from in the remaining three year old races.

2:24 11 May 2011 1:58 PM

I thought Awesome Patriot's win over stablemate Uncle Sam looked pretty good...perhaps even Belmont bound good.

Coil...kick started himself the other day with his optional claiming win off the bench.  Liked this one a lot before getting sidelined months before the Derby.

Baffert's 3 year old bench looks pretty deep.  

Householder 11 May 2011 1:59 PM

Well! It was worth the wait. Good article Jason. Plus you added some details that make it even more interesting.

I always hope for the KD winner to win the Preakness. I want the excitement to last all the way through the Belmont. Much more fun that way!

Zookeeper 11 May 2011 2:21 PM

Animal Kingdom did have a very impressive work at Churchill before the Derby, that's what did it for me.  

Irwin's remarks appeared to be very straight forward with perhaps some recent history behind them.  At any rate so few people speak the truth these days that Irwin caught everyone's attention indeed.

Freetex 11 May 2011 2:22 PM

AK won the Derby and there is nothing good about it from a handicapping point of view.  There was nothing to get you to the winner.  And to me a lone G3 win should not earn you into the Derby.  Six weeks of rest seemed to help AK but running back in 2 weeks is a different ballgame and without foundation I don't see it as a recipe for success.  I will be betting against him in the Preakness and will not use him at all on my Tri tickets.

Draynay 11 May 2011 2:26 PM

I guess you didn't hear about AK's work at CD. The talk about Ak's inability to win the Preakness reminds me of the year that everyone was so sure that Charismatic couldn't win because of his maiden win in a 50k claimer.

AK is a serious horse.

MikeM 11 May 2011 2:38 PM

I saw the work at CD. I also saw 15 other horses who worked well that weekend. Point is, there were many question marks with AK coming into the Derby.

Jason Shandler 11 May 2011 2:50 PM

Jason,

Animal Kingdom can be any kind of horse right now.  He's still improving and his pedigree is quite outstanding, laiden with English and German bloodlines, and bodes well for the future. He could mark the emergence of descendants of Blushing Groom via the Candy Stripes branch as a new challenger to the established Raise A Native dynasty in the classics, given that champion Invasor's progeny are yet to appear on the scene.

I would prefer to regard this year's crop as a set of late developers rather than write them off.  The best ones may be the sprinter/miler types like Uncle Mo, The Factor, Machen and Flashpoint.  Dialed In and Nehro are grandsons of AP Indy which suggest that their best efforts are still in the future (what ever happened to the Bernardini colts?).  For those who took me to task about my pronouncements that the the AP Indy/Bernardini colts would falter in the Derby such as Slew, Jersey Boy, Carlos in Cali and Coldfacts et al, try again next year.  I dare you.  

Mucho Macho Man also can be any kind of horse as he matures. Therefore we should be patient.  That Indian Charlie colt Adios Charlie also looked quite promising in the Jerome.

Animal Kingdom rules the roost for now but I think that Dialed In could have been a winning factor in the Derby had Julien Leparoux not misjudged the pace of the race.  His final half mile and position relative to Shackleford's plus the fractional times strongly suggest that I'm right.  However the Preakness will confirm this as it is the Classic that either confirms the superiority of the Derby winner or rectifies the Derby result with respect to the emerging Champion 3YO.

Ranagulzion 11 May 2011 2:56 PM

I was one that cashed a small, small, small win ticket on Animal Kingdom.  Not by any of my own doing because he was nowhere on my radar, I just took some friendly advice from an HRTV analyst.

I know the pace scenario certainly killed Dialed In's chances, and I hope to see him rebound in the Preakness behind that more favorable pace setting.  Still think he's the better horse.

I agree, we won't see most of these Derby horses down the road, at least not in graded stakes competition.  I'm still waiting to see how Bind and that Asmussen colt develop.  Not to mention that I think The Factor could easily be the best 3 year old in training, distance limitations or not.  

That said, I can't look at this proposed Preakness field any more favorably than the Derby field.  

Runfast159 11 May 2011 2:59 PM

Jason:

I have read several comments to the effect that Animal Kingdom benefited from a slow pace. This is odd.

After 6 fur he was tenth. He then ran down the leaders. It seems to me that the slower the pace, the more difficult it is for the closer. If they had gone faster, say 6 fur in 1:12, he would have won by a mile. A faster pace favors the closers.

If the pace is faster in the Preakness, he would benefit from it.

There was also talk about his foundation, whatever that is. If he was fit enough to win a 10-fur race after 4 starts, it is hard to see how he would not be fit enough for a shorter race after 5 starts.

JerseyBoy 11 May 2011 3:02 PM

Jersey Boy: A slow pace would help a horse like AK that was sitting mid-pack, but would hurt the chances of a deep closer like Dialed In.

Jason Shandler 11 May 2011 3:08 PM

In what now appears to be an injury prone 2011 Derby, both before and during, Jaycito is another 3 year old that comes to mind.  Have not seen any works since April, is bred to go long, but would be highly doubtful for a Belmont starter as he has not raced since March.  Perhaps the Swaps.

Householder 11 May 2011 3:11 PM

Derby horses usually run lights out in the preakness. Even mine that bird was 2nd in the preakness stakes 2 years ago!

With that said I also agree that AK wont win the preakness nice horse but the speed will be back in the preakness. I actually thought this years derby was boring I dont know if it was because the race was so slow or it the announcing was terrible. Thoughts??????

It aint easy being good! 11 May 2011 3:32 PM

Jason, I totally agree with you.

There is always hindsight, odd statements, and sour grapes after the Derby.

James 11 May 2011 3:37 PM

Jason,

Did you play any of the derby undercard races. Pick 4's, 5's? How did you end up?

Sucks to read about Mike Baze. Thought he was finding a home riding in the midwest. Very sad.

The Rock 11 May 2011 3:39 PM

Jason

  Very good article, one of your very best ever. Good job young man. I feel like the best Triple Crown races are yet to come. Unlike last year where I thought the Derby winner had no shot whatsoever in The Preakness, we at least have a legitimate contender in Animal Kingdom, but I also agree that it will be a tough race for him to win, and the way the odds will be setting up I almost assuredly will be taking a stand against him for betting purposes. Unless Animal Kingdom is a brute monster and raring to go physically and intimidating everyone else, then I might have second thoughts. It appears that there is some good talent in The Preakness at good odds that have a good shot at winning the race, and the pace will definitely be faster. I'm really looking forward to this race, and if it turns out that we have a Triple Crown run and I lose my bets it won't break my heart but I'll be going for some juicy odds.

Dr Drunkinbum 11 May 2011 3:45 PM

Rock: Had a very good Friday, though it could have been better. I was closing out late pick 4 with Joyful Victory. She cost me $1200. Didnt like Smith's ride.

On Saturday, I couldnt cash a ticket. My late Pick 4 I went 3/4/2/3. Had winner in first leg at 6-1, had Apriority in second leg (beaten a nose), left out Get Story in third leg but had second and third-place finishers, and used AK, Soldat and MMM in Derby. Oh what could have been...

Anyone hit late pick 4? I mean, besides Jayjay, who Im sure had it 10 times.

Jason Shandler 11 May 2011 3:58 PM

Kudos to the AK camp. He answered everyone's question whether or not he could handle dirt in his face. He did that fine. Dialed in also told us something. He can't win unless pace is blistering.

                        A horse to look out for in the Preakness is Mucho Macho Man!! He is getting bigger and stronger with everyday that goes by!! AK will be tough to beat though because he can adapt to any pace and has an explosive turn of foot. Pace on paper looks like it will be faster than the Derby. Flashpoint is fast and so is Dance City. Shackleford will keep them honest as well. I can tell you this. IF it is a sloppy track you can throw Animal Kindom out. He will not like the slop!!

joeywoge 11 May 2011 3:59 PM

Nobody knows what the future holds for AK. He just may win the triple crown.

If you watch his spiral stakes win he makes a move down the backstreach from last to 4th this horse looks very push key to me.

As far as this being a week crop of 3 year olds nobody knows. Hell who races horse anymore after 3 anyway?

I will say right now this years Travers winner is MMM.

Still a baby and a BIG one at that..

Johnny 11 May 2011 4:05 PM

I cashed in on a exacta box with AK and nehro.

Jason, I disagree with the pace scenario, but I respect your point of view, to offer another. I feel like AK had an advantage when it came to his trip. John V. Gave him one of the cleanest trips other than Shackleford who was handed the derby on a silver platter and still couldn't win. I think that is what got him a convincing win. Another point, I would say of recent the 3 year olds are becoming late developers rather than mediocre crop, but you did say it is too early to call and I think your absolutely right. I agree that 16-18 horses will not be a factor next fall that's how most derby's seem to be of recent years. AK, I think is just now rouinding into top form, nehro is also rounding into his best form. Mucho Macho man will be like first dude, he'll be better as a 4 y.o. Shackleford is a miler, Dialed In needs to improve a little to compensate his running style.  Maybe a couple other horses might be factors in different divisions like the turf or sprint. I hope AK wins the Preakness and I would say he has a great shot especially being one of the freshest horses. I also couldn't agree with you anymore on Motion, one of the classiest fellows in the sport and my hats off to him, he deserves it.

josh 11 May 2011 4:19 PM

Sometimes, value comes with the horse who finishes second. I haven't forgotten last year's Preakness with First Dude. Hope you can find us another live long shot to play in exactas and trifectas, Jason(thanks again). If I remember correctly, Lookin at Lucky was the favorite in that race. Chasing value, by excluding him from the first spot, would have gotten you nowhere.

So I'll have AK on top, probably not by himself, because I'm never that sure about anything in horse racing.

Zookeeper 11 May 2011 4:29 PM

It aint easy being good.  Yes the "fresh horse" Preakness angle usually does not pan out.  Stick with the Derby runners on 2 weeks rest.  

Householder 11 May 2011 4:38 PM

First Dude is a good example of a horse that was always hangin around hitting hard in the Derby, Preakness, and Belmont.  

Travers...Haskell...

He just now picked up his first stakes win, a year later, with the Alysheba on the Derby undercard for Baffert.

good, great, late developing, new trainer, who knows.

Hard knocking...MMM immediately comes to mind.  Came into Derby with 6 week layoff and had some of the worst looking works of any at Churchill.  Had no idea what to make of him.  But, had a pretty solid record behind him.

Householder 11 May 2011 4:52 PM

Didn't have the pick 4 Jason but had two .50 cent pick 3's for 1184.55 each and a $3 tri for just under 6 grand that I split with one of my friends who I convinced to use AK. Did well in a wide open affair where most seem puzzled by the outcome. AK was my #1 choice, sometimes you hit it (unless you are draynay who only hits when the chalk wins)and sometimes you don't. I played to beat the favorite, to beat Archarcharch out of the 1 hole, and to beat Nehro out of the 19 (which turned into the 18) hole. Unless you are Big Brown going against vastly inferior horses you just don't win from the 17 out. Pants was a threat but I just can't bet a female jock in this race. Nothing against Anna who has won some big money for me over the turf, it's just my opinion for now. That can change in the future. MMM was my "money" horse but just didn't see him winning. On to the Preakness.  

the_wiz 11 May 2011 4:55 PM

I guess I'm one of the lucky few that picked Animal Kingdom to win (won $219), but it was not just luck, it was also two straight months of handicapping the Derby field.  To be completely honest, I think this is the best Derby winner since Smarty Jones.  He has the PERFECT pedigree, a consistent peformer and a great turn of foot.  He won going away, not being caught by anyone, and closed into relatively slow fractions.  To me he looks like he can be placed anywhere in the field, although preferrably off the pace, but not a drop dead closer.  Johnny V is a great rider, and he doesn't seem to buckle under pressure.  Do I think it'll be tough to win the Triple Crown -- yes, it'll be tough but hasn't it always been for every Triple Crown winner.  Going in and coming out of the races 100% is a must, and you can't win without 50% luck.  I'll bet him in every TC race and I don't see him losing.  Do I think we'll see a TC winner - Yes, but obviously that is still 4 1/2 weeks away to be seen.  Given the horses that are probably for the Preakness I see it setting up a lot like the Derby.  Shackelford with Flashpoint not far behind going into both turns, Flashpoint falls off, Shackelford is valiant but is defeated and finishes somewhere between 3rd and 5th, Animal Kingdom will come around horses and be closer to the pace and win by 2 1/4 lengths beating Nehro and Mucho Macho Man who battle it out for 2nd and 3rd.  So far this is the scenario I see playing out.  There is still nearly 2 weeks till the race, so obviously there is a lot more handicapping left so the the scenario may change a little but not the winner.  The best horse wins the race, and there is no better horse in America than Animal Kingdom.  I truly believe the Belmont will be the toughest task, Arthur's Tale is a heck of a horse and Animal Kingdom will need to be perfect to beat him but I do think he will win the TC.  You never know, history could be/is in progress.

Leroidesanimaux 11 May 2011 5:02 PM

Jason,

I like this horse more than most and here's why.

He is versatile. Like some of the better horses who have run the TC series, he has finished 1st or 2nd on 3 different surfaces, and 5 different tracks. There will be no excuses about surfaces with this horse and I really like to see that in a horse. He's a no bs or excuses runner with the heart to just run at the leaders now matter what the conditions.

As far as the pace scenario, it won't matter. He has chased a quick pace going 1 mile, on turf, at GP on 3/3/11 and he hung closer to that pace-one very similar to the pace run last year at Pimilico,(faster actually for the first 6 panels) and he was flying at the wire in a very fast 1:34-3 finish. He lost by a head but 1mile is not his race and he blew past them after the wire.

He's fresh. Yep he just ran 10 F's but now we have a versatile colt with more bottom who loves to run classic distances. He turn of foot  is much better than I gave him credit for and I agree with Gary Stevens that AK will love Pimlico.

I'm looking forward to seeing him run, and run well again and If Barry wants to say something salty on film, I'm good with that. I laughed harder than Neumeier did. I still can't believe Neumeier stoked the fire by asking him how many had lied to him. That was sweet.

El Kabong 11 May 2011 5:04 PM

JASON

Maybe Irwin felt the time and venue was there for him to make his comments. I agree with him a hundred per cent,that's something if had been in his place,would've done the same without thinking twice.

Mike Relva 11 May 2011 5:07 PM

Sure it seemed like a turf race in some ways, but my thoughts on a slow early pace (on dirt) is that the advantage usually goes to the pace setters. Shackleford certainly gave it his all holding on for fourth and Nehro was put into the race much closer than usual, in part due to the slow pace and his post. Other pace setters Comma to the Top and Pants on Fire were suffered injuries and maybe just weren't that good.

I have the alternate view on the Preakness - yes the pace will be faster, but those going for it will likely put up faster fractions that will ultimately favor a stalker and/or closer like...Animal Kingdom. I doubt Shackleford, Dance City - who also showed some grit in his Arkansas Derby finish - and Flashpoint will all hold on after setting fractions closer to 23.5, 47, 1:10. If the fast pace does not pan out than taking one of these three is worth a shot. The other thing to consider is the edge, most years, belongs to Derby starters over new faces. In the last 25 years, only three horses have won the Preakness without starting in the Derby...

Tony Bada Bing 11 May 2011 5:15 PM

Leroidesanimaux, you are so full of it I can barely stand it.  You handicapped the race and came up with a horse who just ran a 152 for 1 1/8th and never ran on dirt ?  What a load of garbage.  And Josh had the exacta ?  Unreal.  Everyone I talked to told me Nehro had already peaked and would regress and his wide post would keep him from hitting the board.  And AK was a throw out for nearly everyone but you had the exacta.  Right.  Let us know how much you are placing on AK for the win at the Preakness so we know how much money you gave back.

Draynay 11 May 2011 5:39 PM

Jason:

It seems Bernardinis crop is starting to fizzle a bit; do you think Z's connections are having second thoughts?

DanC 11 May 2011 5:54 PM

As a nice gesture, Johnny V. had given part of his KD winnings to Albarado for bumping him off his mount.  Velazquez should have also given part of the winnings to Corey Nakatani too because had Nakatani not made that premature move with Nehro the results might have been different. I think the top three horses are all legitimate and will be heard more of down the road.

The Pope 11 May 2011 6:03 PM

the_whiz, someday you will regret your anti girl jockey bias in the KY Derby. Rosie had Pants On Fire perfectly placed but he fell back due to bleeding, realistically she could have hit the board. Her 2nd place finish in the Oaks was a skilled gutsy ride. I had my doubts about female jockeys in the Derby (partly due to the horses available to them) and because only the BEST jockeys even get to ride. Stiff competition for anyone. She did far more than hold her own. That girl CAN RIDE!!! I'm betting she will ride a KY Derby winner.

Moodygirl 11 May 2011 6:52 PM

I was all over this Derby! I had $50 on AK to win and I had a Super box- AK-MOH-MMM-Shack-ST. If I would have had Nehro instead of ST I would have hit it big! As good as I handicapped this race I should have won more! I'm still angry!!!!!

DontHateMe 11 May 2011 6:54 PM

Even at 20-1 I don’t consider Animal Kingdom a fluke winner.  I think that he was an overlay to say the least, maybe many looking too closely at synthetics and turf and not close enough to the actual running ability of the horse itself.  Many, many horses can run well on more than one surface and this is just another one.

I wouldn’t call this a weak Derby either.  There was some quality woven in its fabric that just might jump out and surprise a few as the year progresses.  The 103 Beyer was strictly because of the slow early fractions.  I believe that he would have been able to duplicate his winning run even with a much faster half and a final time of 2.01.2 would have given us an approximate 107 or 108 Beyer.  Even so, his final time was faster than every Triple Crown winner except Secretariat, Whirlaway and Affirmed, and was faster than such greats as the Bid, Silver Charm and Alysheba.

The exceptional final half mile I think says lots about AK, MMM and M of Hounds.  Nehro might have made his move later in the race with quicker early fractions, which meant that he might be more willing at the end instead of starting to back off, and Dialed In might have been a lot closer.  This crop might surprise us yet.

LAZMANNICK 11 May 2011 7:03 PM

It aint easy being good:

I agree with you.  Boring race and race calling was horrible.

Kristen 11 May 2011 7:03 PM

I agree with Jersey Boy about the pace scenario not benefiting The Animal. There was 11 other horses in front of The Animal after a snailish half mile and he blew by all of them when the real running started.  Dialed In is just a slooow horse that passes tired horses as witnessed in the fast paced Florida Derby, when he barely got past The Shack while crawling home in in 1:50 for the 1 1/8.

CharlieCigar 11 May 2011 7:25 PM

While my top 3 picks in order in the Derby were Nehro, MMM, and Dialed In ... I did have Animal Kingdom 4th.  And had him across the board and hit the exacta.  

Bottom line with him is I love his pedigree, he has shown he can run on any surface, I think he can go long distance wise, and no matter what he brings his run in the lane every time.  

He's a versatile, talented horse that is dangerous.  Because he's so fresh and lightly raced (i.e. room for improvement) I think he has a big shot at a TC.  

I also think that MMM is dangerous down the road.  He isn't pretty.  He's a grinder that just keeps going.  Once he switched leads he started running better late.  But he's such a late foal and truly seems to love to run he could have a lot of improvement in his future.  

Dialed In I still like. He needed some more pace to run at, but I also thought he got a little shuffled at the start and was farther back than he could have been.  Came running, and with the effort by his stablemate in the stakes on friday (the one who narrowly beat him with very slow fractions) I have little doubt about his quality.  

I think those 3, along with Nehro (who I still think highly of), a few of Baffert's will all be major players later in the year.  

Crafton 11 May 2011 7:51 PM

Jason, just have to say this is a great, honest article.  Nicely done :)

Equination.net 11 May 2011 7:56 PM

I agree with everything you said.

I didn't have AK for the reasons you listed plus the fact that his final prep was run in 1:52 and change.  I can't recall the last time I saw a horse win the Derby off a final prep that slow.

That said, he's a nice horse and I certainly won't complain if he wins the Preakness.  But I'm not betting that race as I think it has the same "crap shoot" issues as the Derby did this year.

Congrats to all the winners.  

Gardner 11 May 2011 8:17 PM

Jason - re: Mr. Irwin's post Derby comment that many felt was out of place. I come from a different take or angle if you will on the comment.

I feel it was a perfect stage for Mr. Irwin to admonish past indifferences and remind those who committed them that had they been up front with him perhaps they would be enjoying being known as The Winning Trainer of the Kentucky Derby Horse Animal Kingdom instead of Mr. Motion. Just a thought.

In any other business, and Horse Racing is a business, an employee who lied to his boss could be charged criminally in a court of law if the lie caused a substantial loss. Or loss of their job at least which in Irwin's cases they did.

Very well thought out and nicely written article Jason.

BTW Velasquez will be riding Flashpoint and Albarado will be riding King Congie, why would  either one of those not be riding Animal Kingdom in The Preakness? Or at least Velasquez since he won The Derby on Animal Kingdom. Just seems strange to me but maybe not to anyone else.  

Linda in Texas 11 May 2011 8:41 PM

With the pace being quicker, it seems, for the Preakness, I think it'll be interesting to see if NEHRO backs off a bit from his Derby position.  NEHRO has a great turn of foot and if he holds back like he did in LA & AR Derby(s), perhaps we'll see a better, closer finish with AK.  MUCHO MACHO MAN's going to have to push the button before ANIMAL KINGDOM if he wants to steal the show.

I wouldn't discount FLASHPOINT just being a pacesetter for this race.  He didn't quit in the Florida Derby.  It was a big jump for him and I think he's moved forward since then.  A smart race with him full of run in the stretch and none of them will catch him.

ANIMAL KINGDOM knows where the lead is and he runs with purpose that's for darn sure!  

If SWAY AWAY makes it, I'd like, for once, to see him get a good trip!  

DIALED IN just isn't a factor to win in my opinion.  Perhaps a show but that's about it.

Bigtex 11 May 2011 8:49 PM

Animal Kingdom was absolutely explosive in his first start on the dirt and is better than anybody thought. He looks like the Michael Jordan of this crop and will be very tough to beat in the Preakness and Belmont. Dismiss his impressive Derby victory at your own peril.

Dutch 11 May 2011 9:04 PM

the only reason i can see somebody not using AK on derby day is that they didn't see his workout at churchill.

thomas 11 May 2011 9:41 PM

Thomas: Give it a rest. Almost every horse has sharp works Derby week. AK had major question marks coming in: 6-week layoff, dirt form, and only four races. Glad you had $2 across on him. You rock.

Jason Shandler 11 May 2011 9:48 PM

You are absolutely RIGHT Jason, it is really difficult for deep closers to win off a slow pace.  That's one thing that makes it so exciting and impressive when they do win (especially 19 TIMES IN A ROW)!  I'm sticking with Dialed In and Nehro for the Preakness, but would not be surprised to see AK or MMM get it. I prefer to call this an evenly matched group rather than a mediocre bunch.  As to Mr Irwin's remarks, true they may be but I felt like it was another black eye for a sport already struggling with perception problems.  Not a comment that belonged on national tv IMO.

Racingfan 11 May 2011 10:09 PM

Has anybody seen the head-on of the stretch run? I thought Maragh was at best indecisive and probably cost MMM 2nd money.

Steel Dragon 11 May 2011 10:09 PM

Jason, ITA with absolutely everything you said. I understand both sides of the Irwin controversy and you stated both sides well. As for Animal Kingdom, I think he is a very good horse and better than just being the lucky recipient of a pace advantage. BUT, ITA that the other best three year olds were not there, and that Baffert has some of them. Still love Uncle Mo if they can get him healthy.

Paula Higgins 11 May 2011 10:10 PM

Jason,

Dead on. Great post race analysis.

For those who cannot read the form, AK is a stalker, not necessarily a closer. Sure, he could win at the Preakness, but there are a couple of new shooters who will hopefully make the pace honest.

The Derby was run like a turf race. The Preakness will hopefully give us a faster pace and a more strung out field heading into the turn...

Linda in Texas:

It is CORNELIO Valasquez, not Johnny, on Flashpoint (a horse that has been working lights out and has been transferred from Dutrow to Wesley Ward).

Geronimo2123 11 May 2011 10:30 PM

Hey, I had AK across the board and,and...um,I hit the pick 3..I mean late pick 4 and,um.. I had Nehro in my 5 horse exotics box so I'm having fun spending all of this 'place' money too!  

Seriously though,I did have Nehro in my tix,but that's about as close as I got to cashing in the Derby.The snail-like pace changed the whole dynamics of the scenario,but give AK his due he won convincingly and it hurt my top choice Dialed In's chances bigtime,oh well.

Can't wait for the Preakness!

Damn, Draynay- you should make some home-made Pruno with all those sour grapes you're holding onto. Same $@#t every year.

Go Lakers!.... oh,wait.  :(

Carlos in Cali 11 May 2011 10:50 PM

DRAYNAY

How many stakes has Nehro won? Exactly.

Mike Relva 11 May 2011 11:09 PM

I was on the Finish line in some choice box seats in Sec 317, on Derby Day, and let me tell you something. Animal Kingdom looked like he could go around the track again, after that race. He wasn't even blowing. It looked kind of freaky from an up front view. I think if Mucho Macho Man had another 50 yards, he would have gobbled up Nehro for  the place honors. MMM had the worst trip of the top three horses in the Derby. He was coming off a six week lay-off so he should tighter for the Preakness. The cut-back in distance should help him and makes MMM the only legitimate threat to take down AK.  If King Congie gets into the Preakness he is worth a consideration for a saver tag. Wouldn't it be ironic if Robby Albarado won the Preakness on a horse that also has the word king in it. I did like KC's run in the Blue Grass, he was very game in defeat,  just

missing by the narrowest of margins. Dialed In could win 6.1 million if he wins the Preakness. Something tells me that perhaps the reason the Zito camp was so light with Dialed In's Derby preps was so they could get him fit for the big payout. I'm sure they felt they had a horse that was good enough to win the Derby if they got the proper pace scenario. But when Shacklefird went slow up front and uncontested it made it harder with twenty horses for DI to get to him like in the Florida Derby.TTYe instructions were

probably this. If you can't get an easy trip don't burn this horse up. Wrap him up and save him for Maryland for the big payout. Cha-ching!

Splits of 12 11 May 2011 11:16 PM

Linda in Tex,

I believe that would be cornholio velasquez riding flashpoint, not johnny.

El Kabong 11 May 2011 11:55 PM

DRAYNAY, I had the Exacta, what of it? You come here to talk trash or act like sore loser, because with you, I can't tell the difference. So man up!

josh 12 May 2011 12:31 AM

(cont'd) he beat Nehro, he beat Mucho Macho Man, WHAT MORE COULD HE HAVE DONE TO GET EVERYONE'S APPROVAL? I just don't get it. I am so surprised that so few are jumping on this horse's bandwagon, WHAT SONG ARE YOU ALL WAITING FOR? This guy looks like he has been waiting to run on dirt, and he's is only going to get better as the year progresses. I think we are witnessing a special horse here and I guess I'm going out on limb saying so, as, except for a few, I don't hear the adoration this horse deserves.

Triple Crown possible? You bet, probably more likely than any other horse we have seen in quite awhile. I don't see any horse that didn't make the Derby, coming back later and beating this guy. It's not going to happen.

So, listen to Dutch, and to me, and you will not regret it later.

predict 12 May 2011 1:59 AM

I guess I am seeing something more in Animal Kingdom than maybe most here, and I'm wondering why everyone else doesn't see what I'm seeing. This is one special horse who just ran his FIRST RACE ON DIRT! AND BEAT THE BEST 3 YEAR OLDS THAT MADE IT TO THE DERBY! AND DID IT WITH CLASS AND STYLE, LEAVING NO SURVIVORS! He beat Shackelford, he beat  

predict 12 May 2011 2:00 AM

After 4 decades of watching the KD I can safely say pretty much every year the field was "average" (hence the term, average) and most of the horses never went on to fame and fortune...

...and, yes, often enough the best 3 year-old of the year did not win the Derby, BUT, the 3 year-old with the best race always won on the 1st Saturday in May. ♥ Sometimes we get greatness...mostly we just get to have fun!

Rachel NH 12 May 2011 6:24 AM

Does Mike Repole still think UM is 100% sound? Maybe he should have a talk with Barry Irwin.

MikeM 12 May 2011 6:27 AM

Moodygirl: Right on.  Rosie's ride in the Oaks was one of the gutsiest I've ever seen from ANY jockey....and she had Pants On Fire sitting pretty in 4th for most of the race.

For everyone who is saying it was a slow race...go back and look at previous times.  It was actually a decent time at 2:02:04.  Seattle Slew 2:02.2, Spectacular Bid 2:02.4, Sunday Silence 2:05, Alysheba 2:03.4, Smarty Jones 2:04.06.  Etc...etc.  All things are relative.

I saw Animal Kingdom's workout at Churchill, and he showed push-button acceleration though he never broke into my top 9.  I'm still happy for him, and terribly proud of his connections.

I think Larry Colmus is a fine race caller.  However, I have to wonder why NBC needs their own race caller when they have such excellence in Mark Johnson who actually was calling the race at Churchill Downs.  Being from the UK, he's accustomed to naming every horse on the track and their positions...not just the front runners. (by the way...Mark Johnson picked Animal Kingdom).

Slew 12 May 2011 8:32 AM

I was surprised by Irwin's remarks but only because someone in racing not named Jess Jackson had the guts to speak the truth. Not sure how telling the bald truth fell so far out of fashion, as opposed to making nice nice even if it's a lie lie. But yes, it certainly is more fashionable to play nice regardless of how you have to choke on the words. Points to Irwin. Racing needs more Irwins. Less fashion.

Maybe it's only the times I have been watching but it seems to me that Julien Leparoux's timing is not as razor sharp as it was the last two years. Are his win percentages appraoching last year's?

Would have liked to have seen Uncle Mo run away from this bunch. Have watched his effortless BC Juvenile win a number of times and was really looking forward to his 3 YO campaign. Drats. On the other hand, since it appears that there was never a point where his connections thought he was right up to the post position draw, I wish they had pulled in time to let Sway Away in. As off as Uncle Mo apparently was, even if he magically bloomed 2 seconds after the post position draw it still would have been risky to run him a few days later.

Mary in VT 12 May 2011 9:51 AM

Home run, Jason.  Very well done.  I liked your article.  I do however have a feeling about Animal Kingdom.  The improbable factor has me feeling Triple Crown.  Call me a dreamer.

Shelby's Best Pal 12 May 2011 10:01 AM

Dialed In ran the fastest last quarter in the Derby: 23.79, beaten about seven lengths by the winner, Animal Kingdom that finished in 24.09.  Had Julien Leparoux placed him eight lengths closer to the slow pace after the first quarter, he'd definitely have had a shot to win it.  Yes this is all hindsight but it suggests that Dialed in should not be abandoned in the Preakness and certainly not with Flashpoint in the race and that 5 million bonus motivating a super effort.  I wonder if Nick Zito would consider a jockey switch to the more experienced Edgar Prado who has ridden big classic winner, Birdstone for him in the past.

As of now I'm forecasting a Dialed In/Flashpoint exacta in the Preakness.  If Animal Kingdom is good enough to beat them, I'll get on board his bandwagon for the Triple Crown and HOTY.  I'd even campaign for him to venture across the pond at some stage to tackle Europe's best in the Arc D'Triomphe (maybe in his 4YO season, assuming health and soundness).  

Ranagulzion 12 May 2011 10:31 AM

Slew...some of those Derby times were in the slop...SS, SJ...

It's easy for us to see what a jock/horse shoulda, coulda, woulda from our vantage point and clockers telling us the fractions, pace, etc...wonder how good any of us would be strategizing and navigating that 10 ton field...I think we'd all stink.

Rachel NH 12 May 2011 10:44 AM

Yeah Draynay

That slow Synthetic/Turf horse just happens to be undefeated on dirt.  In fact he's now a 10F G1 winner on the surface.

So is Nehro......well isn't he?  Oh I forgot.  Nehro still has to win his first allowance race on dirt.  Sorry.

LAZMANNICK 12 May 2011 10:48 AM

Jason, your post Derby thoughts are a fair assessment of the race and of the ability/difficulty in pre-race attempts to handicap it. I'm not sure that we "didn't see the best 3-year olds" in the Derby though---I think MMM, Animal Kingdom, and Shackleford will probably be considered good at the end of the year. (Maybe they'll try Shackleford at shorter distances later.) Even if Baffert brings back a couple of his, some of these Derby horses will not necessarily be diminished.                    

Karen in Texas 12 May 2011 11:39 AM

It seems many here don't watch HRTV. They had one analyst give out Animal Kingdom as his top pick and then he was Jeff Siegel's co-top pick. It is true that many contenders run a sharp work before the race, but his was visually outstanding. His kick away from his workmate was devastating. I saw it only after placing my bet, and I was blown away. It is pitiful that people claim that those who had him got lucky.  It is just sourgrapes from people who don't believe in pedigree or watching works. For those who think it wasn't on paper, just look at how he always fires and try not to behold yourself just to numbers.

Alexaso 12 May 2011 11:39 AM

thank you jason i know i do :)

thomas 12 May 2011 11:43 AM

So glad Archarcharch is going to be alright and all I have to say is that "Johnny V." can he ride or what! Animal Kingdom is an awesome horse and Elite Alex made a comeback with a second place in Delaware, thank you Joe Rocco Jr. Steve great analysis of the Derby, into the scrapbook again!

Fran Loszynski 12 May 2011 11:52 AM

Geronimo2123 and El Kabong, thank you for the clarification. Glad i don't have to worry about that anymore. It should have dawned on me to go to the site that lists every single jockey and the tracks they race on and i would have seen another Velasquez, but i still would not have known.

Mary in VT - totally agree with your statement, More Irwins, less fashion.

Thanks Jason.

Linda in Texas 12 May 2011 11:54 AM

"Velazquez is a better rider than Albarado and when he became available, give Motion credit for pulling the trigger. And if you believe in karma, then you have to believe that the two jockeys got what they deserved. I'll leave it at that."

My favorite part of the article! I was sincerely hoping I wasn't the only one who hadn't forgotten a certain incident involving Albarado that occurred only a little over a month ago. I was so happy Johnny won!

Flynne 12 May 2011 12:29 PM

LOL, Draynay is such a clown.  AK has a G3 and questions him getting in the Derby when Nehro hasn't even won a graded stakes.

I think this is the first time I actually read a whole article in this blog lol.  I like the bit about Irwin as I felt the same way although I'm leaning more towards liking the fact that he came out with honesty rather than the pretentious act of "it's a happy occassion, i'll pretend to be happy" when posed with that question.  English folks have a tendency to do that, be honest of what they think.  Has nothing to do with malice (most of the time), they just say what they think.  We live in a pretentious world, it was refreshing to see it.

As for the Preakness, didn't we all thought that the pace will be hot because of the speed horses in the race ?  There are faster pace setters in the Derby than what's currently lined up for the Preakness.  I don't think anyone can go faster than CTTT off the gate other than TF.  So, I don't think it's a sure thing that the pace will be faster in the Preakness (is TF running in the Preakness?).  It's a shorter race, yes but it's more likely that the pacesetters will try and slow things down to have some in the stretch.

I'll give AK my support to win the Preakness but depending on his odds , I will probably have some tickets on Dialed In.  If AK's odds is 9-2 or better, I'll probably have more tickets on him than DI.

On the Derby P4, I had it 3 times.  3 out of 4 that is lol.  I singled Dominguez on Get Stormy...guess which leg I missed.  I'm good but not that good :)

I did have the .50 P5 at HP that day but it's really nothing to brag about.  It was really a P3 since the 3rd and 5th race were just a 2 horse bet (crown of thorns and sidney's candy on the 3rd and M One Rifle and Cost of freedom in the 5th).  Still paid nice though.

Josh : Draynay is just mad because all he had was a $2 place money on Nehro.  Like I said, he can't even bet a single $10 P3 from his winnings LOL.

JayJay 12 May 2011 12:29 PM

R.I.P. Michael...

JayJay 12 May 2011 12:31 PM

This was my very first read much earlier today ... I'm late with a comment about how much I enjoyed it.

Thank you to ...

Geronimo2123 11 May 2011 10:30 PM ... for making a correction to an earlier post.

>It is CORNELIO Valasquez, not Johnny, on Flashpoint (a horse that has been working lights out and has been transferred from Dutrow to Wesley Ward).<

Wow, now I can breathe better.

And I liked reading ...

>♥ Sometimes we get greatness...mostly we just get to have fun!<  

Rachel NH 12 May 2011 6:24 AM.

So true, Rachel NH.  And what fun it is!  Just nine more days, folks, but who's counting.  LOL

I'm really lovin' Animal Kingdom and wish him much success.  

Love 'em all 12 May 2011 12:36 PM

As one who did not pick Animal Kingdom, I am still amazed at some of the views being expressed about the race.

Animal Kingdom started from post position 16. He advanced 4 wide with 3 furlongs to go. He came 6 wide into the stretch to win going away. Yet some are cold-shouldering his performance.

The race was really no contest. Give the horse his due.

JerseyBoy 12 May 2011 1:04 PM

I can get 10 furlongs on dirt in 16:44:32 if the track is fast.  My closing quarter is wicked though in 3:36:42.

2:24 12 May 2011 1:21 PM

Derby thoughts ?  AK ran the 1 1/4 faster than Zenyatta.

Draynay 12 May 2011 1:37 PM

A point and a question.  

First, I see a lot of people thinking Flashpoint goes out to the lead alone, and some thinking he holds on.  Am I the only one thinking that Dance City may be the one that does that and may be the better horse than Flashpoint?  

And the question ... I see a lot acting like Nehro is running in the Preakness.  Did I miss some news?  I saw that he is "possible" but more probable to go to Belmont.  I think that makes sense and I've been assuming that he doesn't run in Baltimore.  

Crafton 12 May 2011 1:44 PM

I see the headline, "Derby Winner En Route to Maryland" for the third day.  Is he cantoring there?  If so, he should be ready for the Belmont.

Bob from Boston 12 May 2011 1:55 PM

That last point you made is very important Jason. The roster of colts that fell off the Derby trail reads like a list of all-stars compared to the field that actually competed. This is becoming a recurring trend and not at all what the sport needs if it is going to attract new fans. You wouldn't go to the Super Bowl if you were only going to see the backup squad in action.

Giddyup 12 May 2011 1:59 PM

Animal Kingdom 1 and 0 on G1 10F on dirt.

Zenyatta 0 for 1 on G1 10F on dirt.

Draynay 12 May 2011 2:14 PM

Animal Kingdom is the definition of Versatile, (with many uses, able to move easily from one task, to another - thats him right?) I will not underestimate this colt.  Did he get his perfect trip – pretty much, but it could have been many of the other colts perfect trip too.

Gee whiz, 5.5 million is a really good incentive bonus, please don’t underestimate what Nick Zito can do with his “slow” horse.

MMM looks like my favorite to legitimately win the next leg.  With only 14 in the field I like the big boys chances.  He has the best natural stride lengthening in the stretch of any of the colts so far this year so I like him best next.  

If they play the crawling game  I can see AK on top of this- if they have a hot pace and burn I see DI picking off and picking up pieces and the 5.5 is in reach.  They will not drop JLep. But I do see a better planned placement strategy 14 horses are better for him too.

There is fresh talent in Astrology (who was kinda lack luster in his last race in my view) and Norman who I liked last race and he is my long shot pick.  

Im anxious to see who will stand Archarcharch.  I agree that the KD was “average” race. So Average that Archarcharch managed to beat 4 horses with a broken leg - This is such a fickle crop any flipping thing can happen.  

Arch Traveler (3 year old) looked VERY game if a bit headstrong early in the 3rd (ziggy boy stakes??) Belmont at 7 f just now, good run on the rail!! Nice sharp later developing colt who also was a wash in the FL Derby.  

Zen's Auntie 12 May 2011 2:16 PM

Dialed in is a one run closer.Does Strike The Gold or Mine That Bird ring a bell. If he lays closer he will not finish. Everything has to go his way in order to win.

MikeM 12 May 2011 2:32 PM

Mary in VT : Uncle Mo wouldn't hit the board if he had run in that Kentucky Derby.  He wouldn't have gotten past Shackleford even if he was 1,000% healthy.  He didn't have the foundation to run that race, he would've been tired at the top of the stretch chasing CTTT and Shack.  He will win some of his races this year, but KD was never going to be one of them.

JayJay 12 May 2011 2:43 PM

Draynay : That's so old man LOL, give it up.  Shows you got nothing else to say because you finally realized nobody takes you seriously.  You're the joke, the LOLs are about you, not with you.  When you feel beat, you use Zenyatta to rouse people, it's an old trick.  It's also called desperate for attention LOL.

So from January to May, you had picked NO WINNERS at all, not one prep race, you jumped on horses that people picked in their previous races.  I made good money on Nehro, all you can do was place money LOL.

Who's your pick in the Preakness ?  Who's your money horse ???  Stop jumping on other people's horses and pick your own.  Try handicapping the races, you might learn something.

JayJay 12 May 2011 2:49 PM

[Sorry - just no clue where else to put this but since we're still talking about the Classics - albeit the American ones):

Congrats to the Queen on Carlton House.  Looks like after so many years, she may have a live one for the (oldest) Derby!  (Looks to me like World Domination just decided he wasn't gonna play after being held up so much during the first part of the race.)

And Bob: I didn't know Animal Kingdom could sing as well as run ("cantoring" to Maryland?)  Much more versatile horse than we thought.

mz 12 May 2011 2:51 PM

The AP Indy line not winning in the derby is a negative trend,and a good win bet angle for the derby.One day with the right horse and circumstances this betting angle will be broken,just as AK broke some so-called derby betting rules this year.Last year Super Saver didnt look like the same horse two weeks later in the preakness weather it was from racing stress or dehydration from laxix or a combination of factors,he was a non-factor.I would like to know the stats on this betting angle in the money finishes by a derby winner in the preakness.I might just research it since 2000.

SACK THE SECRATARY 12 May 2011 3:12 PM

Speling nevar was a strenght of myne mz.

Bob from Boston 12 May 2011 3:58 PM

duzznt matter, Bob

You still gave me a beautiful picture of Animal Kingdom, singing and bucking his way to Pimlico, having a grand old time on the road, under the trees, coat gleaming, eyes shining ....

mz 12 May 2011 4:23 PM

the_whiz, someday you will regret your anti girl jockey bias in the KY Derby.

Moodygirl 11 May 2011 6:52 PM

Moody,

Nothing against Anna who has won some big money for me over the turf, it's just my opinion for now. That can change in the future.

the_wiz 11 May 2011 4:55 PM

As you can see I clearly stated that my opinion can change in the future. I'm confident enough to believe that when the time comes I'll get it right. For now I'm still savoring my big winning tickets in the Derby and am glad I didn't waste any money on Pants.

Worse case scenario I could be like draynay and after blowing it again be blasting the winner as unworthy. How anyone can say after winning the race that the horse didn't belong there is psycho talk. Especially since one of the 8 or 10 that he chose who happened to finish first loser has never won a graded stakes in his career.

I saw a number of people here besides myself who liked Animal Kingdom going in and openly stated it like I did. What happened to those people? Did they get a case of the second thoughts and not bet him?

the_wiz 12 May 2011 4:37 PM

Jayjay, you were all in on Dialed In.  All that handicapping and you came up with Dialed In. Lol.

Draynay 12 May 2011 5:25 PM

Jayjay

Desperate For Attention!  What race is he running in.  Hurry Draynay......go and make a big place bet and while you're at it include him in all your pick threes.

LAZMANNICK 12 May 2011 6:03 PM

I agree with Jason that Joe Vann looks good but lets remember where he looked good.  At Hawthorne and Laurel and JV has ridden the horse three times and the Derby winner decided to ride Uncle Brent.  Uncle Brent will be the speed in the race and how he handles the pressure will determine the winner of the race.  I am not really crazy about any horse in the race but feel the hot jockey knows who has the best chance of winning so I too will go with Uncle Brent for the stretch out and the win.  Box him with Alteration for the exacta and call it a day.

Draynay 12 May 2011 6:08 PM

DRAYNAY

JAYJAY'S correct,that's your old trick you go to to stir the pot. You wouldn't know what class is if it fell on you.

Mike Relva 12 May 2011 6:14 PM

How about Awesome Patriot in the Belmont?  He's by Awesome Again out of Tizamazing, full sister to Tiznow (remember Da Tara?).  Certainly has the up close style that often wins at 1 1/2 and would be the "fresh horse."  He's been

1 1/8th so 1 1/2...who knows?

Householder 12 May 2011 6:29 PM

I have come to eat a major helping of crow.  I predicted Midnight Interlude to win the Derby.  WRONG.  Humble appologies to you Jason.  Oh well, I have had trouble the last few years with the derby.  Gosh, it's such a tough race to figure.  Actually, I didn't cash a ticket all day.  The closest I came was Oaks day, I had St John's River.  Well, there is always next year!

Mike from Michigan 12 May 2011 7:22 PM

mz- I second that!  The pace ended up too slow for World Domination.  He just wouldn't settle behind it.  But Carlton House quickened well and won without really being asked.  Nice story about how the Queen acquired him too.

Footlick 12 May 2011 7:24 PM

I am so tired of it.

Footlick 12 May 2011 7:33 PM

Draynay, it's 2011 now in case you hadn't noticed and no one really wants to spend any more time debating Zenyatta's worth as a race horse. It's unquestionable.  You on the other hand....

Runfast159 12 May 2011 7:48 PM

This is a great article, Jason.  I too like you, went with Soldat.  I was between Mo and him and with Mo out stuck with Soldat.  Oh boy.  So much for what appeared to be the most experience, disappointing for a horse who supposedly has not missed a day of training.  I had thought way back in the blogs that Dialed In would have to find another gear for the Derby, and it was so.  Jason I think you just provided us with some great insight into the future with Bob Baffert's barn and some other maturing colts who may burst upon the scene later.  I think you are spot on with the Preakness pace scenario set up too now with Flashpoint in.  This new "Prince of the Animals" may have to step it up a bit.  I loved Leroidesanimaux but who would have ever thought he would sire a Derby winner?!  It certainly is a challenge picking a Derby winner out of these lightly raced colts.  I faired much better in the Oaks with Plum Pretty.  Love the fillies by Medaglia D'Oro (my friend bred Champagne D'Oro) so I went with her low Thorograph number.  My heart goes out to Uncle Mo and ArchArchArch to recover from surgery.  I hope we will see Uncle Mo back in the Travers, Haskell, or Jim Dandy and pray they find the cause of the elevated enzyme.  And from ArchArchArch the only thing we can hope for is little ArchX4 one day.

Look forward to Jason's next article before the Preakness.  Thank you to Bloodhorse, Jason, Steve, and Bloodhorse IT for solving my computer woes.  Great to be back!

Alex'sBigFan 12 May 2011 8:03 PM

FOOTLICK

Agree with you,tired of it also.

Mike Relva 12 May 2011 8:03 PM

DRAYNAY

You've never shown any respect for any racehorse,just cashing a ticket. You aren't difficult to figure out.

Mike Relva 12 May 2011 9:57 PM

Draynay : You flipped flopped between 10 different horses up to the last week and you went all in on Nehro...10 horses and you can't even pick the winner ? Man, try learning how to handicap, seriously.

JayJay 12 May 2011 10:16 PM

<><""Uncle Mo wouldn't hit the board if he had run in that Kentucky Derby...didn't have the foundation."">

jayjay,

Interesting what you say about Uncle Mo's foundation. A lot of people share that opinion, but just as many, maybe more, thought he was good enough to beat these even with a strange lead up to the KD. Looking back I wonder if he was dealing with gut tube issues well before the Wood. Poor guy.

Prayers going up from this house for Uncle Mo. Seriously. Maybe some of you will lift him up to God before calling it a night.

Mary in VT 12 May 2011 10:17 PM

Jayjay is clueless. AK had even less foundation that Mo. A sick horse didnt make the race and people like Jayjay feel the need to bolster their egos by saying he wouldnt win. Sad.

Jason Shandler 12 May 2011 10:23 PM

Mike Relva and JayJay, Draynay doesn't believe half of what he says about Zenyatta. He's just baiting us.

Paula Higgins 12 May 2011 10:37 PM

Jason, have you heard anything about how Uncle Mo is doing? I would love to hear some news about his condition.

Paula Higgins 12 May 2011 10:38 PM

jayjay, I Picked Nehro who paid 8.80 for Place.  You picked Dialed In after I told you he had ZERO chance of hitting the board.  All that handicapping and you couldn't pick a horse to hit the board.  Rookie.

Draynay 13 May 2011 12:03 AM

JASON

Good point from you on Mo,but as usual don't hear you commenting regarding anything Dray says like slamming AK,pumping up Nehro that hasn't won a stakes. That Dray is razor sharp! He needs to get over the fact AK beat him,time to move on.

Mike Relva 13 May 2011 12:30 AM

I thought the derby was one of the greatest for me. I hit the derby big. I had AK on all my exotics after I noticed how velasquez was itm in his first four races. I played MI,DI nehro and AK it was an awesome day!

RJPPDP 13 May 2011 2:00 AM

Rachel in NH: I purposely excluded the slow time of MTB and Super Saver because the track was sloppy, and the times slow.  Seattle Slew never ran in the slop until the Belmont.  Sunday Silence had a good track.  Smarty had slop...Spectacular Bid was on a dry fast track as was Alysheba.  As I said...all things are relative.

Without The Factor in the Preakness, the race is wide open, and I certainly wouldn't mind seeing another TC winner before I bite the dust.

Now I have a question not concerned with the TC.  Since Big Drama broke the record at Gulfstream in January...no race...no news.  What's happening with him????

Slew 13 May 2011 8:48 AM

JASON

If JAYJAY is clueless,what is DRAYNAY brilliant? Right.

Mike Relva 13 May 2011 10:07 AM

Oh yeah Mike, you're a fine picker of winners.  On a side note look for Astrology to make some noise.  It should be noted that Zenyatta's jocket Mike Smith has the mount and will be wearing Rachel Alexandra's colors to honor the only mare to win HOTY on the track within the last 2 years.  

Sylvester 13 May 2011 11:02 AM

AK had a turf and synthetic foundation which tends to be better for a short race period than dirt.

Footlick 13 May 2011 11:12 AM

Sylvester,

I think I read somewhere that Zayat wanted Astrology to carry Stonestreet colors in honor of his friend, the late great Jess Jackson who won the Preakness twice recently enroute to - count 'em - not 1, not 2, but 3 HOY titles. Rachel wasn't specifically mentioned as an honoree but of course the horses he did it with are remembered as well.

STILL feel like absolute crap about his JJ's death and I never even met the man. Does anybody know if the poster to these blogs named Gun Bow was Jess Jackson. Haven't seen him post since JJ passed.

Speaking of Stonestreet, has anyone heard what is up with Maclean's Music?

Mary in VT 13 May 2011 12:30 PM

Congrats to Jerry Hollendorfer.  Well deserved enshrinement in the HOF.  Also to the connections of the three deserving fillies who made it.  Well done.

I'm cutting back my betting for the Preakness.  Considering a $50 exacta box with Animal Kingdom and Mucho Macho Man.

2:24 13 May 2011 1:26 PM

SYLVESTER aka DRAYNAY

Nice try!

Mike Relva 13 May 2011 1:48 PM

slew

i heard that there pointing big drama for the saratoga races.  so they gave him off

thomas 13 May 2011 1:56 PM

I'm not sure one can say AK did not follow the "rules" of handicapping 101 and then play Nehro.  Was it possible for a horse to look any worse in the mornings?  Nothing on paper, or visually up close, said he would fire over the Churchill surface.  Quite the contrary.  And MMM, what does Handicapping 101 suggest you do with a horse that is coming off a 6 week layoff?

I think all indications are that this was a pretty "average" cast.  Jason is right, there are some pretty good 3 year olds who got left in Baffert's barn and I'm not sure how one would rate this group against an over seas horse like Frankel.  

As far as HOY awards this is not "Dancing with the Stars" so unless you vote, your opinion does not matter as you have been deemed an "expert" of nothing. Personally I think Lure should have been HOY (And I live in CA) but this was many years ago and I have come to terms with it and have moved on.  

Householder 13 May 2011 2:19 PM

draynay how come we don't hear anything about your borel factor? You went 0 for 8 on that after bragging how you'd bet him every race. I told you his run was over and for people to bet Twice The Appeal down so far was ridiculous. All we hear now is that you boxed 6 horses and one of them happened to finish 2nd as the 2nd choice of all bettors. Not anything to brag about there, when you box nothing matters unless you actually pick the winner first. You couldn't find a longshot who wins a race if your life depended on it. I see people like the_wiz who say little but year after year they pick the Derby winner. You should be begging them for advice. By the way how's Cal Nation doing? Still the only threat other than Mo in the Preakness? LOL, either they aren't sound enough (Mo) or good enough (Cal Nation)to be there. You are going to be 0 for 3 in the Triple Crown for this year since your Triple Crown lock won't even be in any of the races. That's what happens when you spout off about a horse so early in the year.

slyder 13 May 2011 3:25 PM

WHY????

Dray, JayJay, Whomever?  

I bet the Derby-posted my picks and was wrong--I had 3 of first top 4----BUT  WASN'T CLOSE!!!!!!--I DIDN'T HAVE THE WINNER.  Horseshoes BS

I am not against anyone winning money---

"Even Dray" I hope he wins enough he can bring Ed McMahon from the dead to walk up with him to peoples doors and give away millions of free money.

Things happen and move on--Taking delight in another's loss---is hardly like a celebration of winning yourself.

Come back when expressed your reasoning ---you've been proved right by results--you've won and share your delight with yourself with others--if that cranks your boat.

Boasting about someone making a mistake rather than what you did right??? Get a job with FOX

My early pick to get back to horse racing is Shackleford for the Preakness but that can change and he hasn't even made the gate yet--It's Friday the 13th not the 21st of May

sniper1 13 May 2011 4:27 PM

Yes Mike.  I am brilliant.  Compared to jayjay a stone is brilliant.  Slyder I guess I could be like you and wait until they all get in the gate and then make a lousy pick.  I liked a horse that got sick.  So what it happens.  Uncle Mo is still the best 2 year old I have ever seen.

Let me know when you see another win a Maiden and then back to back G1 races and a championship. "That's what happens when you spout off about a horse so early in the year?" You're not a fan of the sport at all are you?  We don't need people like you in the sport.  How does it taste to be so bitter?

Draynay 13 May 2011 4:51 PM

Jason is the one clueless or confused.  This is the same guy that said if MO makes the gate, he'll win.  He pretty much guaranteed Mo will win the Derby prior to post draw.  He then changes his mind at the end and says it's possible that he'll make it to the derby but he couldn't back him for the win.  I told ya before, stop doing a draynay, you have a reputation to uphold.  Some people actually respect your opinion and "objectivity".

Draynay : You picked a lot of horses, just so happen one of them placed.  How much did you put on Nehro to place ??  and how much did you put on Soldat to WPS, or Brilliant Speed ??  Or Shackleford ??  Knowing you, you probably didn't bet anything on any horses except Borel's horse because you have no idea what you're doing.  It's good for the industry though, keep doing what you're doing. LOL

JayJay 13 May 2011 8:22 PM

Last time I checked he didnt make the starting gate. Pick another sport dude, horse racing isnt the one for you.

Jason Shandler 13 May 2011 8:33 PM

Yeah, he  didn't make it to the gate but prior to that news, you did say you couldn't back him for the win, did you not ?  You can try and try but I don't post bs, just the facts and my opinions.  This was the 2nd time you accused someone of not caring about the horse by twisting their (my) words.  

JayJay 13 May 2011 9:35 PM

I knew Mo was sick and up against it about a week before the race. That's why I couldnt back him and that's why I dont make my picks until all the facts are known. I've said this to you 1,000 times but it just doesnt get through. All things being equal, he towered over the field. All things werent equal. Now, go back to looking at the pretty horses in the paddock and boxing 8 horses. Then you can come back and tell us you had the tri.

Jason Shandler 13 May 2011 9:41 PM

DRAYNAY

Me bitter? What about you railing on UK cause he beat you? Is that bitter,Dray? Please.

Mike Relva 13 May 2011 10:10 PM

Well, I would say that Uncle Mo's 2 year old form "towered" over this field.  But his 3 year old form did not.  

And his form towered over this field at shorter distances but count me in the group that does not think he would have gotten a mile and a quarter.  I guess we won't know.  

He strikes me as a Quality Road type.  A speedster that isn't nearly as good going long.  Had he been healthy and ran I would have left him out.  

Bottom line is a lot of previous conceptions I believe have changed now with the routine becoming to lightly race so many.  

Crafton 13 May 2011 10:43 PM

Jason,

The Irwin thing is very, very interesting.  It supports my theory that owners need a collective voice.  It further supports the issue that each faction of the sport operates too separately and there needs to be more unison, less greed, more honesty.  Irwin may be right, but I just don't agree with the "stage" he chose to present this on, not on national tv at the KD.  Being that Mainstream America was watching, who are virtually clueless about racing in general, the comment made about "lying trainers" doesn't make the sport look good to the masses.  You said it correctly, he did not pick the right time to address this, albeit this seems to need addressing somewhere.

Irwin seems to be a great owner who gives the breed the best of care, i.e. Fair Hills, etc.  Even the musical jockey thing has questions.  Did Albarado take off his mounts in hopes to be stronger for Animal Kingdom and did they misinterpret that as a sign he wasn't healed or ready and didn't want to take a chance?  Johnny V is one of my favorites and I am glad he won the Derby.  Interesting what you say about the "karma" and each getting what they deserve.  Albarado now has the mount on King Congie in the Preakness against Animal Kingdom.  

On another note, what seems to be upsidedown in the jockey world these days?  Every time I turn around there is another article about domestic abuse or substance abuse.  They seem to need guidance and help and support counseling.  Are they under extreme duress now more than before?  It just seems we are hearing more disturbing news about them, they are an almost forgotten athlete in a highly competitive environment and it just seems like they need help.

I am worried about them, any thoughts anyone?

Alex'sBigFan 13 May 2011 11:07 PM

ALEX'S BIG FAN

Sorry,I disagree Mr. Irwin stepped up,bigtime. I admire his courage.

Mike Relva 13 May 2011 11:48 PM

ABF: as the great athletes they are, jockeys are very much in the best shape...but they fall off horses, get stepped on, get rolled over, and they break a lot of bones.  Over the years, after breaking enough bones, arthritis sets in viciously.  And yet they keep getting back on those wonderful horses.  I don't think many can do it without some type of medication to subdue the pain.  From there, it's simply too easy to get caught up in the abuse of those drugs.  As far as a substance like cocaine...???...I don't get it unless there are deeper unresolved psychological issues.  I assume help is out there for them...but it takes a heck of a lot for someone to admit they need help.  GoGo had to hit rock bottom before he got help.  I think it's a terribly sad situation...but I don't think it's a new problem...just a problem finally getting spotlighted.

Slew 14 May 2011 9:28 AM

Alex'sBigFan -

Excellent comments @13 May 2011 11:07 PM.  

I'm feeling very grumpy this morning so I'm going to speak some truth myself:

jayjay and Mike Relva: you're making this blog as unattractive to read as you've done to the NTRA blogs.  It's like a damn schoolyard.  Grow up.

Laz - always great comments when you talk about horses and racing, but you're judged by the company you keep.  Please stop giving those 2 your approval.

Draynay - you delight in egging it on but you are dragging this blog down to the infantile level.  There is nothing remotely amusing about it. Kindly cease and desist.

And Jason, I wish you would stop rising to the bait.  You're the boss here and you can stop it.  

Thanks in advance for your consideration.

sherpa

sherpa 14 May 2011 10:16 AM

Santiva is out. Just got info from Frank Caruli. Oh well, tough break.

El Kabong 14 May 2011 11:50 AM

Sherpa,

 Good luck with your request. I doubt any of it will happen, but it would be nice if it did.

longwaytomay 14 May 2011 12:14 PM

sherpa,

Yeah!!! I second all of that!

Zookeeper 14 May 2011 12:21 PM

Alex'sBigFan- Cocaine and heroin was used widely by the dance community to kill pain and keep weight down (probably still is but I'm not involved anymore).  I assume it is the same for jockeys and other athletes.  I know that the dancer analogy may seem weird, but you could not imagine how cut throat it is at the top levels. Once you start using and get the results, it ends up being very difficult to stop.  Then frustration and depression sets in, the physical deterioration etc.  It is a very easy road to begin, and a very difficult one to get off.

Footlick 14 May 2011 1:33 PM

Just a little GO, GO,  GO BOY! GO! for Runflatout on Sunday - Hope he does GREAT and stays safe Zoo.  

Zen's Auntie 14 May 2011 4:40 PM

SHERPA

While you have the right to express your opinions and maybe I need to grow up a little. The fact is if you look at the things I comment on,it's easy to figure out why. As for NTRA,give me a break! The couple of individuals that are unloaded on have it coming if you just read some of their insults to others whose only there to discuss racing,instead of disrespected. The troublemakers should be banned.

Mike Relva 14 May 2011 5:46 PM

Zen's Auntie,

Thank you! Keeping my fingers crossed that he has NO speed duel in mind this time. He drew post #1 (darn!) so I guess I better cross my toes also. :)

Zookeeper 14 May 2011 6:34 PM

JerseyBoy, Thank you for your post on 5/12 at 1:04pm - right on about AK!  Anyone with half a brain and two good eyes, or even 4 for that matter, would have witnessed a horse with guts ridden by a very good jockey!  Also, if anyone watched the last ATO video prior to the Derby, you would have noticed that, both Lenny and Steve had AK as a winning possibility even though he was a relative unknown entity.  He has the pedigree, I don't care what the fashionista's of horse breeding say!  Personally, I had no favorites in the KD.  I respect everyone of those horses for just showing up and putting their lives on the line in the stampede, which some of them did.

Sherpa, I thank you also for your post on 5/14 at 10:16am.  The back and forth sniping is out of hand and annoying, as well as a huge waste of time for those of us who want to read Rational commentary and thoughts on the horses and racing.

Stellar Jayne 14 May 2011 6:39 PM

lwtm, Zoo - thanks.  I'm glad I'm not the only one who's tired of trying to scroll through all the crap.  

Mike Relva - like I said, schoolyard.  Pointing fingers and crying "he said it first!" or "he started it!"  Chasing people around blogs looking to one-up or double-dog-dare.  Yes, even calling names.  It isn't funny to see little kids acting like that, so imagine how it looks to the rest of us when grown men (we presume) are doing it.

sherpa 14 May 2011 6:55 PM

SHERPA

You shouldn't throw stones while living in a glass house,it's a little absurd.

Mike Relva 14 May 2011 9:45 PM

SHARPA

Your comment"chasing people around blogs" was totally on called for and absurd. My first post to you was polite and unlike one individual on here I don't comment everyday,cause my day doesn't rise and fall on posting here or anywhere.

Mike Relva 14 May 2011 10:01 PM

Stellar Jayne - I hesitate to say so, but I agree about Animal Kingdom. (sshh, don't tell anyone! ;-)  I was rooting like crazy for Decisive Moment in the Spiral and thought he had it...then this monstrous chestnut simply blew past him.  And all I could think was, WOW. It was just so effortless.  I think it would be very good for American racing in the long term if AK goes on to win the TC.  One hopes our breeders would take notice.

(I appreciate your additional comment, too.)

Zoo, I'm sure you know I'll be with you in spirit tomorrow.  Will you be at Hollywood Park?  I'll be watching on Calracing.com & hope to see you join RFO in the winner's circle. It goes without saying, safe trip above all.  Good luck!

sherpa 14 May 2011 10:21 PM

sherpa,

Thank you! I know you will root for Runflatout. I just want him to do well and not engage in the kind of foolishness that happened in the San Felipe. My best to you and don't let the naysayers get you down. I've been missing you on this blog, not hard to figure out why you've been avoiding it.

Zookeeper 14 May 2011 11:38 PM

Thank you for your comments Stellar Jayne.

On another matter. Here are some eye-catching statistics.

The DRF publishes a list of the top 25 sires in terms of the earnings of their offspring.

The list shows the number of performances and the number of wins from those performances.

To date, the top 3 sires on the list, in terms of the winning percentages of their offspring are:

Candy Ride(Arg) 58.9%

Awesome Again   57.6%

Leroidesanimaux(Brz) 57.1%

The foreign-born sires are going to attract some attention.

(Note the DRF uses the abbreviation PERFS. I take it to mean starts. If it means runners, the message remains essentially the same)

JerseyBoy 15 May 2011 8:17 AM

Zookeeper- Good luck today!!!!

Footlick 15 May 2011 9:04 AM

Oh Zoo I saw him on TV and he does look really good. Very filled out and bloomy - so much more mature. Of course its hard to tell these things from a brief glance but he really looks well and his works are right on point

I hope he likes the surface.

Im sure they have been schooling him on  rate-ablility Ya'll havent rushed him so he should be ready - My biggest prayer for him is the safe trip.  

Zen's Auntie 15 May 2011 10:34 AM

Zoo - Run's pp shouldn't matter too much in a field of 5 and you have a jockey (GG) who is one of the best at avoiding 'foolishness.'  If he wins, he will have beaten some very good horses.

Footlick - your comment comparing the individual performance demands of jockeys to dancers was very apt.  

Jason, please pass on congratulations to Tom for picking Alternation in the Peter Pan.  That was an exciting race.  Also, I hope he'll do a blog on the Monmouth/Meadowlands deal when it's finalized.  The reports I've read have been very confusing, so something in Plain English would be helpful.

sherpa 15 May 2011 12:45 PM

JerseyBoy----Thanks for those DRF statistics on foreign sires. I'm not surprised to see Candy Ride at the top, and I'm eagerly awaiting Invasor's first crop on the track soon.

Karen in Texas 15 May 2011 1:14 PM

Sorry, should have said foreign-born sires in previous post (not foreign).

Karen in Texas 15 May 2011 2:39 PM

Karen in Texas:

Ordinarily, I do not focus too much on pedigrees. As a bettor, I judge horses by their record.

However, your response made me look briefly at the influence of the sire Candy Stripes. He could be an emerging force.

Leroidesanimaux is by Candy Stripes.

Candy Ride is out of a mare by Candy Stripes.

Invasor is by Candy Stripes.

Twirling Candy is by Candy Ride.

Sidney's Candy is by Candy Ride.

Fortunately, US breeders can claim that Candy Stripes was bred in America, just like the champion German sire Big Shuffle.

JerseyBoy 15 May 2011 3:01 PM

One more thing on the KD -

No comment on the Network coverage call of the race, no one can hope to replace the VOICE and emotion of Tom Durkin.

I missed Tom's call so very much, I know he needed to step down from the series of the crown. Still - I missed him so much.

I have however been watchin Belmont and its so good to hear his calls - every race takes on a special aire when Tom tells me about it.

I cant wait till his Belmont call.

If somehow AK can win the Preakness Im afraid the stress factor will be right back up!

That would be Awful... (wink wink nugde nudge)

Zen's Auntie 15 May 2011 4:21 PM

Runflatout ran a superb race today!  I was amazed at how quickly he recovered his momentum after Ain't No Other lugged out on him, just as Bench Points moved up. I think ANO/PVal cost him the win.  Congratulations, Zoo! Your boy looked fantastic!

sherpa 15 May 2011 8:00 PM

sherpa- thank you. I really did think it was applicable, but there are many here who I feel would not think so.  Weight and status are so important in both worlds.  But I am so torn because I do not learn anything from many blogs other than foreign ones.  So much energy is expended playing games here and spouting ones opinions as fact.  I cannot support it.

Footlick 15 May 2011 9:07 PM

Footlick - many of us cannot support it, and we can only muster the courage (or grumpiness, as the case may be) to voice our objections and hope to be heard over the din.

As to the similarites between professional dancers and jockeys, I had only to think about it for a bit to see the likeness - while admitting I would not have drawn the obvious comparisons until considering your post.  As I have said in the past, I always gain some new perspective from your comments.  

sherpa 15 May 2011 10:14 PM

I am so excited for you ZOO!!

Runflatout did a great job overcoming the trip and is becoming a fine racehorse.

In this situatiuon second by a nose is nothing to be ashamed of (it never is really is it?), he doesnt need any excuse for that awesome effort.  

He seemed to take to the surface well and he looked good afterwards too -and thats the main thing. I hope he eats like crazy and pines for a gallop. I cant wait to see him again!

Zen's Auntie 15 May 2011 10:16 PM

Zen's Auntie -

I forgive Tom for relinquishing the Derby call.  It's good he recognized the health issues involved.

Overall, Collmus' calling of the race was spoiled for me because NBC seems to have neglected to mute the CD caller (whose name, with apologies, escapes me at the moment), and the two weren't in synch.  At first, I thought my next-door neighbor (who was having a party) had the race blasting on radio or something; then I realized it was the stereo sound from my own television, bouncing off my dining-room windows!  I had to watch the BH replay to hear the call.

So will Durkin be doing the Belmont call?  I thought NBC had engaged Collmus for all 3 TC races, but maybe not.

sherpa 15 May 2011 10:36 PM

Karen in TX & JerseyBoy - I think you will both enjoy this wonderful article about AK's progenitors:

thevaulthorseracing.wordpress.com

With that, I bid good-night to all.

sherpa 15 May 2011 11:19 PM

Okay get ready Steve:

SWAY AWAY IS IN THE PREAKNESS,

 The AFleet Alex fans can rock and roll! or just "Sway" with the music. Good Luck Jeff Bonde and your belief in Alex's kid! Bring it home for Dad Alex -Sway Away-kick it, kick it good! My Preakness picks:

SWAY AWAY

THE FACTOR

DIALED IN

ANIMAL KINGDOM

Fran Loszynski 16 May 2011 8:30 AM

Sherpa,

I Love Toms work and totaly understand the need for him to consider his health first. Still I missed him - I meant he will do the on track call at Belmont, No?

Zen's Auntie 16 May 2011 10:04 AM

Hit the superfecta for the Peter Pan. I had a feeling that Prime Cut would fill the 3rd or 4th slot so keyed him there using Alternation and Uncle Bret only on top 2,6/2, 6,8,10/4/2,6,8,10 and 2,6/2,6,8,10/2,6,8,10/4.  This horse didn't have what it takes to win the race but ever since they took Borel off of him he's run very well.

slyder 16 May 2011 11:25 AM

sherpa----Thanks for that nice article. I welcome the Candy Stripes influence in North America!

Karen in Texas 16 May 2011 12:07 PM

sherpa:

Thanks for the information. What a gorgeous horse Candy Stripes was.

This is why I blog. To engage in an exchange of information and ideas.

JerseyBoy 16 May 2011 1:32 PM

Thank you, Sherpa.  Always loved Candy Stripes, even though he was a son of Blushing Groom, who was opposing The Minstrel (who I had to love, as a close relative of Nijinsky!)

And what a good looking, obvious son of Blushing Groom he was!

As I have already bored people on other blogs, I finally saw Invasor in Kentucky two weeks ago.  What a beautiful horse.  Hopes he makes a great an impression as Candy Ride.

p.s.  Northern Dancer is still the greatest Cdn of the 20th Century -- and don't you forget it!

mz 16 May 2011 1:41 PM

Sherpa & Footlick,

Great comments.  Footlick, that was an interesting analogy to the dance community.  I assume that pain management and weight management become so taxing on them (jockeys and dancers, etc.) it leads them on a downward spiral of meds, and if they are not mentally strong to guard themselves against overusage then they are more likely to hit rock bottom.  I'm sure this has always been the case but we seem to be hearing more of it in the press for some reason.  Perhaps with the economy affecting the horseracing industry it is more stressful for everyone at all levels.

I wish Mr. Irwin would expound on his viewpoint and tell us exactly what it is the trainers are "lying" about.  Are they lying about money, the horse's ability, medication usage, just what did he mean?  There is a good article in DRF on the subject where Irwin clears Pletcher.  But other good trainers are upset, like Kiaran, and owners are quoted in the article as agreeing that Irwin should not have presented this at the KD.  It was more than enough having to see ArchX3 get pulled up on national tv, I think Irwin should have been more of a visionary and thought about the broad scope of the day and sport and presented his thoughts at another time.  But for those of us who have aspirations of ownership one day, we would love to know exactly what he meant.  

Alex'sBigFan 16 May 2011 6:21 PM

Jason,

My sympathies to you and yours on the loss in your family.

Alex'sBigFan 16 May 2011 6:27 PM

My post Derby thoughts include how right I was all along in saying Mo wouldn't win the Derby. I do hope he recovers completly and returns to racing. Sorry for your loss Jason but I can't help and notice no Jason=no draynay

.....hmmmmmmmmmmmm.

no_mo _mo 16 May 2011 7:45 PM

AK just won the Derby!!  He just beat this field..As for the pace........... review his prior races.... one time he was on the pace 47 flat and still pulled away...This horse is for real.  One to beat, nothing greater than what was in the derby coming at him...He's the boss...

Lenny 18 May 2011 8:15 AM

Animal Kingdom is the best horse in the Preakness. However, I never back horses drawn wide in 2-turn races.

I suspect that the horse they will all have to run down is Astrology because he has the rail.

For those who follow the BSF, here is my joke for the day.

Animal Kingdom's last 3 starts show the following Speed Figure plus Track Variant, taken from the DRF:

99+6=105

81+16=97

84+22=106

Average 102.66

His last Beyer Speed Figure? 103

JerseyBoy 19 May 2011 7:59 AM

Footlick: thank you for reminding me of the weight angle in respect to cocaine use....I had totally neglected that aspect even though I do realize that jockeys, dancers, models, actors, etc do use it for weight control.  And your analogy to dancers was most apt, since (though most do not realize it) dancers are top athletes.  Perhaps it's time for those that lead the racing game to realize that the demands on jockeys to keep their weight to a minimum is destroying the jockeys.  And it seems to be focused on flat racing.  Jump jockeys are not as confined by their weight and size as flat runners.  If a ten year old horse can win the Grand National with any weight on his back...then maybe it's ourselves who demand too much from our flat jockeys, and are willing to sacrifice them for speed figures. Maybe the industry, as a whole, needs to take a second look.

Slew 19 May 2011 10:05 AM


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