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Woodbine Mile Weekend Analysis

Between Woodbine, Belmont, and Louisiana Downs, this weekend has shaped up to be a very intriguing and deep graded stakes calendar. Let's try to make it a profitable one.

Woodbine

The Woodbine Mile was good to me last year, as I banged Rahy's Attorney at 12-1 and had the $700+ tri. Hopefully Sunday will produce the same kind of results, but I don't expect the prices to be as big. I can't get past Ventura here. I know the field this time around is much deeper and she has been off since April, but I expect her to run a big race. Look at her two efforts this season--lost by a nose to the best turf horse in the country, Gio Ponti, in the Kilroe Mile, and was beaten a head in the Madison by Informed Decision, who has won six of seven this year. She ran a winning type race on the yielding course in the 2008 Woodbine Mile and firm course on Sunday should benefit her even more.

Bribon was installed as the 5-2 favorite and he should be the biggest challenge to Ventura. The optional claimer he won at Saratoga was brilliant in his first turf start in more than a year, suggesting that he has found a new home on grass. He's won three in a row and a win here would make him a legitimate threat in the Breeders' Cup Mile, Goldikova and all. He's in the best form of his career.

I'll try Ventura for the minor upset and key Ventura and Bribon over all in a trifecta. It's a bit chalky but that's how I see it.

The Northern Dancer also came up a great race. It's tough to separate Marsh Side, Champs Elysees, Just As Well, Marchfield, Quijana, and even Musketier.

I made a nice score with Marchfield in the Sky Classic last month, but I think that was the perfect distance for him. He's won at 1 1/2 miles before and I see him running a nice race, but not for the top spot.

Marsh Side, Musketier, and Just As Well all finished runner-up to Gio Ponti as some point this season, and I expect one of them to win this thing. Now, it's just a matter of picking the right one. I'll lean toward Marsh Side, who won the Canadian International over this course last year. He's in his third start off a layoff after a failed try in Dubai. He nearly beat Gio in the Manhattan over a yielding course at 15-1 and could be an attractive price once again. This horse doesn't seem to get much respect at the windows.

I also like Just As Well, who seems to be at his best right now. But this is his first time at the distance so I can't take him to win.

I'm going to play Marsh Side to win, and box Marsh Side, Just As Well, Marchfield, and Musketier in exactas.

In the Canadian Stakes, how do you go against Forever Together? She was third in this race last year and towers over this field. Points of Grace, at the right price, would be the only horse I'd think about trying to beat her with.

Belmont

The Futurity may be the race that vaults D' Funnybone to the top of 2-year-old ranks, and establishes him as the early Derby favorite. His Saratoga Special was scary good and the connections couldn't be any higher on him. We'll see how he does at seven furlongs. He'll have to catch Discreetly Mine, who was huge in his maiden breaker at Saratoga on Aug. 22. Drawing the inside post could spell lights out for the rest of them. Soundman also has good speed though, and could pressure him up front.

I don't think it's a great betting race so I'll layoff, but for the record I'm taking D' Funnybone. My longshot pick would be Grand Rapport, who could benefit from a quick pace. Take a look at his maiden score at Saratoga in the mud. He was 16 lengths back after the opening quarter.

Worstcasescenario will be a popular pick in the Matron but I think there is chance for an upset here. I would box her with Southern Truth and Awesome Maria in exacta.

Rutherienne looks like a single in the Noble Damsel.

Louisiana

The Super Derby didn't come up especially strong. I like Blame, who should relish his second start at two turns. If it rains, he's even more attractive. I'd box him with Soul Warrior and Massone, who will be tough if he likes dirt.

Good luck this weekend. Who do you like?

91 Comments:

Rutherienne did look good last out.

Real Good

Maybe single.

Virgil Fox 18 Sep 2009 12:45 PM

I'm not sure how a win by D'Funnybone vaults him to the top when Dublin is out there.

Dublin makes a better early Derby favorite with his breeding.

Tiznowbaby 18 Sep 2009 12:50 PM

Jason,

Even with a solid effort, do you think connections would supplement Bribon?

Guess its the Goldikova talking?

Peace man.

Virgil Fox 18 Sep 2009 12:53 PM

Virgil Fox: If he wins again, I would have to think they would supplement. Maybe to the dirt mile?

jshandler 18 Sep 2009 1:00 PM

Super derby   Regal ransom -hope he can run after layoff-Soul WARRIor is a complete throwout

Matron I SAID DASHING DEBBIE was a bad buy but i am doing a flip flop and taking her

SUNDAY AT WOODBINE taking CHAMP ELYsees in dancer

steve s 18 Sep 2009 1:06 PM

I understand that Juddmonte have a really nice colt called Comic Marvel who should be making his debut at Belmont quite soon.  Keep him on your radar.

I also expect Ventura to win on Sunday at Woodbine, it's interesting that she's been off the track all summer and I suspect she's taking in this race on route to possibly the Spinster at Keeneland then the Breeders Cup.    

Dalziel 18 Sep 2009 1:07 PM

BTW: Race 2 at Belmont on Saturday. Pompa/Pletcher have a 2YO named Condemned that they are very high on. He's 3-1 on ML. Just an FYI.

jshandler 18 Sep 2009 1:25 PM

Still looking at this weekend, BUT, One thing I will tell you, Don't overlook "Princess Haya" in the Canadian Stakes, She always hits the board, While a step up, She will be a great price, and very consistent...

Greg J. 18 Sep 2009 1:33 PM

EQUIBASE number 119 on Soul Warrior makes him the huge favorite.I didn't understand why he was the favorite untill i saw number given. PLEASE TELL THE BETTERS HOW GOOD THAT NUMBER IS SO THEY WILL NOT BET THE SLOWPOKE REGAL RANSAM( I MIGHT GET 5-1 odds on regal ransom

steve s 18 Sep 2009 2:19 PM

Ventura's nose loss to Gio Ponti in a mile run at 1:33.6 puts her at the head of this class if she can run to that race again, to me anyways, with extreme respect for Bribon.

Like Blame, Rutherienne, Forever Together, D'Funnybone...

da3hoss 18 Sep 2009 2:22 PM

Brisnet loves Blame to win super derby

NOW Ican get 7-1 on Regal ransom as lomg as his owner dot bet his horse

REMember you others to bet on Soul warrior and blame and let slowpoke regal ransom have his odds

steve s 18 Sep 2009 2:39 PM

Settle down steve. We know u like regal ransom. Have fun with him off the 4 1/2 month layoff.

jshandler 18 Sep 2009 2:47 PM

Insightful is my longshot play for the Futurity but I think this horse will do his best at longer distances.  I liked the way he was closing in the Special so I'll be playing him in exotics, too.  

I agree with Tiznowbaby, don't see how a win by D'Funnybone makes him the early KD favorite.  Looks like a sprinter to me.  His pedigree is extremely questionable for a serious KD contender.    

Irish 18 Sep 2009 2:58 PM

HOW COME BLOODHORSE POLL OF FANS HAVE REGAL RANSOM-DONT THEY KNOW HE BEEN OFF LONG TIME AND HE SLOW TO bOOT ACCORDING TO NUMBERS.WHAT"S WRONG WITH THEM PEOPLE.

steve s 18 Sep 2009 2:59 PM

Tiznow and Irish: I meant IF he wins impressively, and I didnt say he would be mine. Remember War Pass? He didnt have the classic pedigree and was still the favorite by many. Old Fashioned as well.

Personally, I dont get too caught up in pedigree for the Derby. I was told by many that Smarty and Big Brown could never win the Derby bc of their pedigree. It's part of the equation, but not all.

Anyway, the dam (Elbow) won going long and so did her sire (Woodman). Just saying.

jshandler 18 Sep 2009 3:16 PM

If memory serves, War Pass wasn't favored for the KD until after he won the BC Juvy plus had an undefeated 2YO campaign.   And War Pass didn't have a classic pedigree, but it wasn't D'Wildcat and Elbow either.  I'm not a strict pedigree handicapper, but that mix producing a KD favorite seriously stretches the imagination.  

As Tiznowbaby pointed out, Dublin is out there to challenge D'Funnybone as the early KD favorite at this point in time.  If D'Funnybone wins the BC Juvy, then I think he'd go ahead of Dublin.  But I don't think even an impressive Futurity win will make it clear that he's a better KD pick than Dublin since D'Funnybone registers on the sprinter radar but Dublin does not.

Irish 18 Sep 2009 4:44 PM

Yeah, that Elbow was all quality -- two wins in nine starts for $45,000 ;) (though she is nicely bred and comparable to BB's dam).

As far as Brownie, I like his top side better than D'Funnybone's. Just sayin'

Tiznowbaby 18 Sep 2009 5:16 PM

Neither of them will be Derby contenders come next year if you ask me, but I know how people get after a couple big 2YO wins. And if D' Funnybone romps in the Futurity, he will be a popular horse. Trust me.

jshandler 18 Sep 2009 5:21 PM

Jason, next year's Derby winner is running in the mud in New Mexico right now.

Bribon is the real deal and wins for fun... hmmmm chalk....yum.....

Draynay 18 Sep 2009 5:34 PM

I love Marsh Side, I picked him in the Canadian International last year. As for D'Funnybone, his father, D'Wildcat, was sired by Storm Cat, sire of a Preakness winner, Belmont winner, and Breeders' Cup Classic winner, so questioning his pedigree isn't really fair. I'm  going to root for Grand Rapport in the Futurity, one of my favorite races, though.

Citation 18 Sep 2009 5:55 PM

Asking me to trust any of y'all after seeing the Derby Futures on here last year? Might as well try to convince me to trust you that the Grand Canyon is covered in plexiglass and go ahead and take that first step.

Who knows who'll make it? But what makes D'Funnybone a better pick if he wins the Futurity?

Bob's got a couple of live ones and Dublin ran about as green as one can run, plus going almost to his knees at the gate. THAT is what made his Hopeful win so impressive.

If you can get hyped on one? You shouldn't discount any at this point.

Although I have a theory on it, but I'll refrain.

Tim G 18 Sep 2009 7:37 PM

Ventura  should',e beaten Gio Ponti but she bucked or propped, she did something that cost her the race----I'll take Ventura cuz I think she's the best horse.....and don't forget "Champ Champ" for the Woodbine Double!

Matthew W 18 Sep 2009 7:58 PM

I respect everyone's opinion here. that being said, Backtalk will rebound in huge fashion next time out. he will relax next time and be able to make one big move. speed on top, out of an Affirmed mare - kinda reminds me of Harlan's Holiday.

Golden_Given 18 Sep 2009 8:26 PM

Just wondering...how come you are off Rahy's Attorney this time around Jason?

ABZ 18 Sep 2009 9:17 PM

STEVE S

You really are clueless!

Mike Relva 18 Sep 2009 9:21 PM

I am hoping some of you can offer some advice - I am going to my first race track to see Mine That Bird run in the Goodwood and hope to get to meet Woolley, Borel, and see MTB up close if possible.  Since this is my first trip, I don't even know where to begin and I will only have a couple of days for the trip.  What are the best possibilities either the day before or the morning after the race and anything in particular about Santa Anita that I should know?  Your help is greatly appreciated!

Cindi 18 Sep 2009 10:22 PM

Picking Ventura, Marchfield, and Just As Well. How can you not like D'Funnybone with a dam named Elbow.

MRO 18 Sep 2009 10:31 PM

Just As Well is a half-brother to

to the champion 2 year old filly in England last year,Rainbow View

and his second to Gio Ponti looked

solid,but like you say the big danger is the distance as this is his first attempt at 12 furlongs.

 George Strawbridge has been a big supporter of Canadian racing

over the years and Im glad to see

he is bringing his top class filly

Forever Together back for another crack at the Canadian Stakes.I hope

he still plans to run Rainbow View at the Breeders Cup as she finally

got her act together in the Matron Stakes in Ireland last time.

John T. 18 Sep 2009 10:44 PM

Golden Given,

    I agree, "Backtalk's" hopeful is a throw out for me, Tough having post 13, He is one to surely watch,  After his poor start in the Sanford and he has shown the ability to rate and close, But, I honestly don't think anyone could possibly pick the Derby winner/contender at this point.  There is a good chance that horse hasn't even raced yet...

Greg J. 18 Sep 2009 11:14 PM

It IS hard to pick the Derby Winner this early! I's hard to pick the Derby Winner on Derby Day! I'll go this far: recent maiden breaker Indian Firewater, Baffert/Pegram---will be a graded stakes winner...

Matthew W 19 Sep 2009 1:47 AM

A little off topic,

Midshipman is looking goooood

CB man 19 Sep 2009 7:41 AM

Cindi....

I spent most of the summer in Los Angeles.  OK remember it is going to be warm there.  :)  Also, in California, you have a lot of people that are a lot easier to talk to than back east.  Just be yourself and walk up to these guys like you already know them.  As for Mine That Bird, ask if you can go to the backside and see him and give him a carrott.  Bet you can. :)  You will love it there.  I am going to the Breeders Cup but not because of the horses.  Yeah I will go there but I am going back down for some other stuff.  :)

stardustyrose 19 Sep 2009 8:49 AM

Jason.  Going against Forever Together is really stupid.  I don't see any way around that one.  She is quite the gal.  :)

stardustyrose 19 Sep 2009 8:52 AM

I liked Uno Mas after his allowance win over Friesen Fire and some other highly touted animals last winter at FG. He got some questionable rides but still hit the board in the FG series of Derby preps. Absent over the summer, he came back with a win over the LaD track. Do not overlook.

Ann in Lexington 19 Sep 2009 9:38 AM

Marsh Side is a throwout. He prefers ground with some give to it, and Woodbine's turf course is rock hard.

Ron G. 19 Sep 2009 9:50 AM

I've never been much on D'funnybone, WCS ran faster than he did, only a day before, and if i remember correctly his time for that race was decent but nothing exceptional, and his last half furlong was nothing to brag about. I believe that the fast pace burnt many out in that race and most horses were backing up, which made D'funnybone look better than he really is. I'll sit back and watch the race, but Discreetly Mine, is one that I like.

LDP 19 Sep 2009 10:26 AM

If you are looking for a good upset in the Woodbine Mile with a nice payoff. Take a good look at Jungle Wave.  He loves the home turf, is in great form and could be the mild upset for Ventura and Bribon.

CT 19 Sep 2009 10:26 AM

I'd also give Backtalk another chance, he's just two, and his connections has said that they think his best will come with more distance. Up until the the Hopeful he was one of the hottest colts, one loss out when you have three other wins should not knock a horse completely out of contention.

LDP 19 Sep 2009 10:28 AM

I'm surprised at how many people cling to the Pedigree to still judge how the horse is going to run.  In my experiance pedigree tells me nothing.  Horses prove over and over that they are more than capable of running further than thier pedigree suggests, or sprinting when they show a strong stamina-long distance pedigree.  My dad was good at wrestling and I sucked, he couldn't do track, and I was good at it.  Same thing with horses if you ask me, their all born with individual ability.  They inherit physical traits, but not ability or inability from their pedigree.

Rutherienne, Forever Together, Ventura & D'funnybone

Brian A. 19 Sep 2009 1:32 PM

I know he was the favorite, but Condemned was impressive, as I predicted on Friday. Hope some of you took advantage. The pick 3 was chalky.

jshandler 19 Sep 2009 4:32 PM

D'funnybone is a neat little horse and impressive, but I'll believe it when I see it as far as him stretching out.

Tiznowbaby 19 Sep 2009 5:56 PM

Tiznowbaby,

    I agree about the stretching out, but he looked like he could at least get another furlong or two today. Discreetly Mine looked, good, but that trip was h///. Since he's by Mineshaft he'll only get better with age, plus having AP Indy in there two makes me more confident about his ability to stretch out.

LDP 19 Sep 2009 6:07 PM

Brian A.- I think that even though you find that some horses can outrun their pedigree, many more run exactly as their pedigree dictates.  Breeding is not an exact science, and there will be cases where it is defied, but you have enough evidence in the Manning family that bloodline traits are important.  Maybe we should say that they cannot be used alone to judge what a horse will be able to do.  Conformation, temperment all play a role.  The bloodlines are just the base that can be built on.  Oasis Dream was a flat out sprinter, but he is siring distance horses.  Anaaba was another that was a sprinter but sired horses that ran a distance of ground.  So you are right that breeding isn't the end all, but it is the beginning from whioch we build the horse we get.  

Footlick 19 Sep 2009 6:24 PM

I'm with you, LDP. I think he can get more than 7 furlongs. Maybe he'll go 1 1/16. I liked that Discreetly Mine too. He's stil awkward, like a kid that's not done growing, and there's a lot of room for improvement there. He looks like a horse that's going to go on at age 3.

Btw, love, love, love Rutherienne. She gives everything every single time.

Tiznowbaby 19 Sep 2009 6:38 PM

D'Funnybone is good, but i think he'll just do middle distances. Backtalk's connections have said he's expected to do better with distance, Dublin i think will do well, and so may Discreetly Mine. Those are my faves so far.

LDP 19 Sep 2009 7:26 PM

STEVE S

What were you saying about Regal Ransom?   lol lol lol

Mike Relva 19 Sep 2009 8:25 PM

Mike, agree!

Tiznowbaby, you have excellent taste in horses. Wasn't that a sensational finish between the two?

Got to watch it on replay when I got home.

Footlick, I like your analogy on pedigree. Very insightful.

Hey Greg, true enough but Dublin was the 12 (they both also moved in one slot in PP due to the scratch).

I just kind of get the idea that Backtalk is a speed horse and will like the shorter distances, same with D'Funnybone, but only time will tell. It's a jinx to be thinking about it this soon, but yet it's difficult NOT to do so....

Tim G 19 Sep 2009 9:35 PM

Mike, RR was impressive, wasn't he. He looked like he was out for a Sunday gallop. Even when his jock pressed the button at the top of the stretch he was still throwing his ears around.

Tiznowbaby 19 Sep 2009 9:36 PM

    Talk about an amazing photo!  I don't think it could get any closer before a dead heat would be called.  I didn't think Rutherienne got it, I was shocked when they showed the photo!

Regal Ransom and D'Funnybone both very impressive...

Jason,

     Nice article on Friesan Fire, I can't wait for his healthy return, I also think Larry Jones got shafted regarding Kodiak Kowboy, I mean, Come on, They couldn't let Jones train him for his last two races?  I hope Friesan stays with Jones, But doesn't sound like that will happen, He deserves better...

Greg J. 19 Sep 2009 9:48 PM

TIZNOWBABY

Hey there,yes he was. I'm responding cause STEVE S recently stated that RR is a "slow horse".He takes great fun of always slamming a horse and that stupid remark he made regarding that Calvin should be "fired". He has no shame and the sad part of it is he's unaware how he comes across. He's a clown!

Mike Relva 19 Sep 2009 9:48 PM

Footlick: Your absolutly right.  I was speaking against the poeople who say, for example: D'funnbone can't get the distance becuase his pedigree has no distance in it.  I don't totally disregard pedigree, I actually pay close attention to it, but I pay a lot more attention to comformation, a horses action and demeanor.

Brian A. 19 Sep 2009 10:30 PM

Wouldn't wanna be playin Ore St next week, as they lost at home (to a good Bearcats team) and they'll wanna prove it right away--a sign of a good program!

Matthew W 20 Sep 2009 12:29 AM

A good method of handicapping Midshipman was this: ONLY horse to go gate to wire on the two days of the (last years) Breeders Cup.....a good way to handicap Woodbine Mile is this: Ventura is the best US Miler, They NEED to win one and (I think) they're going to!

Matthew W 20 Sep 2009 2:03 AM

RR is anything but slow IMO, if he comes back next year he'll be one of the better older males. I know he had slow easy fractions on the lead, but i like the fact that his last three furlongs were closed in 36.52, and his last furlong was closed in 12.68. Plus the fact that he was eased up in the final yards and got that time also got my respect. Speaking of older horses if the Moose, QR, SB, MTB, IWR, and SE all come back we'll have one heck of a competitive division for the older males.

LDP 20 Sep 2009 9:14 AM

Stardusty - thanks for the info.  I'm not worried about warmth since I live in Phoenix so that part should be easy!!  I was wondering how to get on the backstretch and which day would be easier - Friday or Sunday AM.  I am hoping for Sunday AM.  

Cindi 20 Sep 2009 11:44 AM

I think D'Funnybone has some distance in him.

Paula Higgins 20 Sep 2009 1:13 PM

Gotta LOVE that Princess Haya!!!!

Congrats to Princess Haya, Mr. Matz, Rafael Bajarano, and Eileen Hartis......Sweet!

Greg J. 20 Sep 2009 2:37 PM

LDP

How are you?

Mike Relva 20 Sep 2009 3:08 PM

More girl power in Ventura in the Woodbine Mile. Really nice race. Hoping that you get well soon Bobby Frankel.

Paula Higgins 20 Sep 2009 5:56 PM

Mike,

    I'm doing good as the next person. I'm just about to go post a new blog on my site, it's Story Sunday. Ventura, looked fantastic. I hope her connections start to consider the Breeders Cup Mile for her. SA's turf course is every bit as fast as Woodbine's, so she should enjoy that. Plus a match up between her and Goldikova should be a great race.

LDP 20 Sep 2009 6:27 PM

Ventura wasn't touched...Would LOVE to see her v Goldikova! Why WOULDN'T they come out to Santa Anita with Goldikova, as she was ultra impressive there last year!'Think Ventura will be very fresh, am waiting for her to put it all together, ala last year v Indian Blessing! Horses like Ventura and Goldikova make the Breeders Cup what it is: The bestest day in racing in the Western Hemi, maybe even the world....

Matthew W 20 Sep 2009 8:44 PM

John Madden with Pres. Bush... that was weird.  

Cindi, if you figure out a way to get to the backstretch, will you email me through Jason... love to go with.  My advice is call SA and find out about morning workouts.  I will be there to see the KD winner and Borel in the paddock and on the track for the Goodwood.  Just don't want you to be disappointed if you don't get back there; it's not that easy.  Try to make it to the Wed SA opening to get the Zenyatta beer stein if you can swing it.

helsbelles 20 Sep 2009 9:00 PM

Would be nice to see a Ventura vs Goldicova match up in the Breeder's Cup Mile.

Ranagulzion 20 Sep 2009 9:51 PM

Just wanted to say that Ventura was totally awesome! Wow! Incredible turn of foot...she blew 'em away (and me too)! Great job with her, Bobby.  You always take good care of the girls; now take good care of yourself. And, thankyou GoGo for not using the whip...see, horses really do luv to run.

Lisa 20 Sep 2009 9:58 PM

Cindi:  BTW, during your stay in the lovely L.A. area, if you observe an incredibly loud and unusual vehicle coming upon you while on the roadway, and you look over and see a crop of whitish-grey hair... that would be a Jay Leno sighting, a frequent occurence in this area.  Please, do NOT attempt to follow him, as this creature is too savvy to be caught.  Learn from the natives and do not get suckered-in to his shenanigans.  Enjoy your stay in our humble city.

Great weekend of football... my SAINTS are awesome, the Chargers are the same old hapless losers, and ELI and the Giants are terrific.  And, I am very excited about my USC QB Sanchez and the Jets stickin' it to NE.  Great games all.

helsbelles 20 Sep 2009 11:54 PM

Greg J: Good call on Princess Haya. I was at Woodbine and with the naked eye most in the grandstand, including myself, thought Forever Together had held her off, but the photo was clear and sent shockwaves through the crowd.  Horse racing is something else!  I respect Forever Together but couldn't believe she went off at such short odds, 3-10, after having been 1-9 for a good portion of the betting.  A true 1-9 favorite looks like Muscle Hill in the Canadian Trotting Classic. What a standardbred that trotter is!

GunBow 21 Sep 2009 4:17 AM

Jason:

Tough beat with Marsh Side.  It was a hard decision for the stewards. Marsh Side clearly did come over into Quijano, but I did not think the contact was that signifcant and it appeared Quijano was drifting towards the rail on his own anyways. Most importantly, I thought that Quijano came over onto Champ Elysees (forcing Go Go Gomez on Champ Elysees to take up) BEFORE Marsh Side began to seriously drift into Quijano.  I thought it was possible that Marsh Side would be kept up but  Quijano dropped to 4th behind Champ Elysees.

As I fan, without a betting interest, I never like to see a rich and prestigious race decided by the stewards.  Of course, there are times when a dq is necessary, but the Northern Dancer was such a strong race that it is a shame that it ended in such controversy.  The one thing that is certain is that Marsh Side was better than Just as Well on the day, even though the latter was declared the winner and the former was placed 4th.

The stewards faced a difficult decision, and I can't say definitively that they were wrong, but it's just not the way one wants to see a great race decided. And it was a great race. The finish was absolutely thrilling, with 4 gr.1 quality horses hitting the wire together after running the final quarter of the 12 furlong race in a remarkable 22 and 4.  The quality of the field, and the setting for the race, in my opinion North America's best turf course(the EP Taylor course is 1.5 miles around and features a layout, with a "false" clubhouse turn, closer to the courses in Europe than the typical US turf courses), deserved a more glorious fate.  

GunBow 21 Sep 2009 4:43 AM

A great weekend of racing, both thoroughbred and standardbred, in Toronto.  For those living in the northeast, I strongly recommend making a trip to Woodbine.  The Woodbine stakes program is very solid, and the facility itself is big enough to accomodate crowds up to 30,000 while maintaining the intimacy of a much smaller track.  Admission is free, as is parking, and the EP Taylor turf course, on the outside of the dirt(poly) track, is a true jewel.  Adding to the atmosphere is a large, beautiful paddock and the Canadian racing Hall of Fame(thoroughbred + standardbred).  I've driven up to Woodbine about 15 times, and always return impressed.

GunBow 21 Sep 2009 4:53 AM

Notes about the racing I witnessed in Toronto this past weekend:

1) Woodbine Mile- Ventura turned in a special performance in the Woodbine Mile.  A beautiful, striking 5 year old, Ventura was absolutely sensational, unleashing a brilliant turn of foot that propelled her from the back of the pack to the lead in about an eighth of a mile.  The final time of 1:32 flat was a stakes record, and gave the females yet another win over males in a graded stakes race.  The Woodbine Mile was Ventura's 4th gr.1 victory, if one includes last year's Breeder's Cup Filly and Mare Sprint which was then ungraded, and she very easily could be on an 8 race graded stakes winning streak.  

Ventura lost last year's gr.2 $750,000 Cash Call Mile at Hollywood Park by a nose after having the lead late in the stretch and while conceding 4 lbs to the winner.  In last year's Woodbine Mile, Ventura was a solid 2nd on a yielding turf course she did not fancy.  Then, in her two races preceding yesterday's victory, Ventura dropped gr.1 photo finishes  to Gio Ponti and Informed Decision after leading in deep stretch.  In yesterday's Woodbine Mile, however, Ventura did not lose focus, "prop", or hang in the stretch, instead drawing away from a horse, Ferneley, that was running a huge race himself.  Bribon and Rahy's Attorney were slightly disappointing, but the main story was Ventura's brilliance.

2)Northern Dancer- An exciting race showcasing a number of gr.1 runners was unfortunately decided by the stewards.  I am not going to argue the validity of Marsh Side's disqualifaction, but it was disheartening that the race was decided off the track.  Marsh Side, Just as Well, Quijano, and Champs Elysees may not be Gio Ponti, but they are legit gr.1 types and are clearly evenly matched.  

Speaking of Gio Ponti, how good does his resume look now that Ventura, 2nd to him in the Kilroe Mile, won the Woodbine Mile in breathtaking fashion, Marsh Side, 2nd to him in the Manhattan, crossed the wire first in the gr.1 Northern Dancer, and Just as Well, 2nd to him in the Arlington Million, was the official winner of the Northern Dancer? To further emphasize Gio Ponti's season, keep in mind that Quijano, moved up to 2nd in the Northern Dancer, ran 3rd to Gio Ponti in the Man O' War.  

3) Canadian Stakes- After missing last year's Breeders Cup, I was really looking forward to seeing Forver Together up close and in person in the Canadian.  Although I have the uptmost respect for Forever Together, I thought she was a huge underlay, and almost couldn't believe when she was 1-9 up until about 12 minutes before post.  Forever Together ran a solid race in the Canadian, giving 11 lbs to Princess Haya.  However, the fact that she never came with her typical explosive run, combined with the knowledge that  she only ran 3rd in last year's Canadian, suggests that Forever Together simply does not run her "A" race at Woodbine going 9 furlongs.  Therefore, I fully expect her to be at her best again in the Breeders Cup Filly and Mare Turf.

4) Summer Stakes- Bridgetown is clearly a 2 year old with alot of talent and potential.  It says much about his quality that he was able to race close to a fast early pace of 22 and change and 45 and change and still hold off promising turfers Becky's Kitten and Fantastico Roberto.  Bridgetown has already outrun his pedigree to a certain extent, given he is by champion sprinter  Speightstown, but one would have to think, given his performance yesterday, that 9 furlongs is a definite possibility.  Also keep an eye on runner-up Becky's Kitten, a son of turf champion Kitten's Joy out of a Cozzene mare, and 3rd place Fantastico Roberto, an Italian allowance winner by Refuse to Bend that was purshased by Team Valor before being brought over to North America.  Also make note that while 6 of the 10 horses in the Summer Stakes were based at Woodbine, the 1-2 finishers were coming out of a Saratoga maiden race and Fantastico Roberto had last raced at Arlington Park.  

5) Canadian Trotting Classic- With all due respect to Ventura, the most dominant and impressive performance I saw in Toronto this weekend was by Muscle Hill in the Canadian Trotting classic. Sent off at 1-9, Musle Hill made a scintillating move on the Mowhawk Racetrack backstretch, moving from 5th to 1st in a blink of the eye, before drawing away for a facile 3+ length win. The victory was Muscle Hill's 17th straight(he's 17 for 18 in his career), a streak which includes a 6 length win in the $1.5 million Hambletonian Final(in world record equalling 1:50 and 1).  Amazingly,  last year's Canadian Trotting Classic(Final) winner, Deweycheatumnhowe, had come into the elims having won 17 consecutive races(he would run 2nd in his elim before winning the Final), and 2007 CTC champion, Donato Hanover, entered the CTC Final with 15 straight wins( a strak that ultimately went to 19 races). The general consensus is that Muscle Hill is probably better than Dewey', and is set to surpass Donato and establish himslef as one of the greatest trotters in history.

GunBow 21 Sep 2009 6:31 AM

Well, Ventura was everything she is, yippee-skippee, almost the track record, too, as well as a new stakes record...what a horse.

D'Funnybone has plenty of Classic runners and producers in his pedigree base, linebred to Secretariat & Nashua, with Roberto, Swaps, Buckpasser.

Brilliance as a 2 year-old doesn't mean you aren't a classic horse...Seattle Slew ran the fastest mile ever for a two-year old while being eased...

da3hoss 21 Sep 2009 6:59 AM

Cindi.  

Sunday is beter than Friday.  It seems to me that in the middle of the week and toward the weekend things are more hectic.  The trainers have to get the horses registered to race, they have to do the post draws and all of this and that.  What I would do is go EARLY in the morning.  Hang out near the paddock and all in that area.  Start talking to people.  Be friendly with everyone (some will turn their nose up at you but that happens everywhere in this world) and strike up  converstation(s).  Within about an hour you will feel comfortable enough to either be introduced to the people that you want to see OR you will just starting talking to someone in Mine That Birds camp. Have some peppermints and carrots.  They don't like to give their horses candy before the race but carrots are OK.  The candy is AFTER the race (that would actually be a better time cause you could spend more time with the horse with less stress) Just be totaly up front!!  Tell whoever that you want to get close to Mine That Bird  and you have driven from out of state to see him.  Don't tell them what state unless they ask LOL!  Just come right out and say it.  I always do this.  "Would it be OK if I have someone escort me to the backside to see Mine That Bird and give him some love and treats and maybe take a picture?  I really love that horse."  More cases than not, people will say "sure come with me" (they will give you a temperary sticker with your name and the time and day to put on your shirt).  That is the best way to meet people that "we feel" are hard to meet. It is "our fear" that someone is too good to talk to is the barrier of not being able to do this.  Remember, you are just as good and equal as they are.  Always remember that and you will meet who ever you want to in life.  I have found that when I meet famous people, (while I am around them) they seem just as normal as everyone else.  It is that OMG this is Mine That Bird that gets in the way.  When I go down there, I want to see Zenyatta.  :)  I do this all the time so I have it down.  :)

Greg J.  I hit one exacta this weekend.  I am think it was Ruthereen. I left the site and came back the next day and my balance was higher LOL......

stardustyrose 21 Sep 2009 10:39 AM

WHAT"s wrong with mike relva-I had regal ransom and so did everyone else excempt you

steve s 21 Sep 2009 12:49 PM

Thanks to a great ride by Bejarano saving the week.

No thanks to Gomez for getting door slammed in face

steve s 21 Sep 2009 1:27 PM

Ventura is no threat to Goldikova-Stick with filly sprint

steve s 21 Sep 2009 1:44 PM

Greg J hit a nice longshot

I see Mike relva and tim g Didn't have any picks as usual

steve s 21 Sep 2009 1:57 PM

Add Ventura to the list of BC winners.  

Zensational, Looking and Lucky, Gio Ponte, Zenyatta...Ventura.  

1:32 and change for the mile closing in 22 seconds.

Perhaps they should put her in against Zenyatta although she looks a lot more difficult to ride. Smith looks like he's about ready to fall asleep half of the time on Zenyatta.

Householder 21 Sep 2009 2:27 PM

GunBow,

    Has there ever been a year where two fillies of any age have been nomintated for Horse of the Year, taking up 2/3 of the ballot?

LDP 21 Sep 2009 4:33 PM

Great news today!  The BC decides to perpetuate a mistake and in the year of the fillies, is shooting themselves in the foot with Ladies Day!  Another great decision!  And we wonder why we can't attract new fans.

TIm 21 Sep 2009 7:32 PM

That's Looking AT Lucky...Baffert's 2 year old.  

Householder 21 Sep 2009 7:43 PM

Nope, if you don't get what I've said about publishing my picks????

Then not sure what can get it through.

I wasn't even at the races this weekend. Other related things to do.

Tim G 21 Sep 2009 8:21 PM

Love Goldikova, think Ventura WOULD TOO be a threat to Goldikova--that's a real tough "hombre", is Ventura! I wouldn't sell her short at a mile vs anybody! She'll be way fresh, too! Alas, they're talkin' sprint!

Matthew W 21 Sep 2009 8:54 PM

D'Funnybone = Old Fashioned

Draynay 21 Sep 2009 10:50 PM

I DO enjoy the Top Euros coming to the Cup--if THAT is because of synthetics then that is an unintended good thing---the ACTUAL INTENT, safer, more consistent tracks---has been a collosal failure, no doubt! But I'll take the good with the bad--no Rachel, maybe Sea The Stars??? AND many more top Euros, to challenge us....

Matthew W 21 Sep 2009 10:59 PM

I can see why Ventura's connections are picking the BC F&M Sprint, as they will be the horse to beat in a $1 million dollar race, but I think they would have a real shot to do something historic...win a different BC race.  The mile obviously would be tougher with Goldikova et al, but at double the purse and off her last race, why not?  

ABZ 22 Sep 2009 9:04 AM

Matthew, they're talking Sprint because she's much better one turn only and a mile is pushing her limits (their words)...though 1:32+ is pretty good limits!

Tim, they're having a hard time hoding on to old fans (me) by calling the Distaff "Ladies" my mother and St. Theresa are ladies...

Householder: Zen looks like with that huge stride she's like a rocking chair...a pretty darn fast rocking chair!!! Ventura looks like a Mopar muscle car!

da3hoss 22 Sep 2009 9:41 AM

DRAYNAY

Hello! I agree with your comment a couple weeks ago when you stated that that RA should run in the Donn.

Mike Relva 22 Sep 2009 10:07 AM

I absolutely love VENTURA, I think she's as awesome as racehorses get. If she didn't have that slight issue of waiting on horses she would be even more amazing. Even as it is, though, she is an absolute maniac down the stretch and she finishes with a rush. I would not bet against her in the Breeders Cup Filly & Mare Sprint.

Mike S 22 Sep 2009 1:08 PM

We will know a lot more (about distance) after the Norfolk Stakes at Oak Tree but the Smart Strike colt Looking at Lucky should be the 2 year old to beat come BC Juv. time.  He already has wins over the synthetics at Hollywood Park jumping up from Maiden to Stakes wins at Del Mar.  This trend should continue at Santa Anita.

Householder 22 Sep 2009 1:36 PM

Princess Haya 9 furlongs 1:45 97 beyer

Ventura 8 furlongs 1:32 108 beyer

THOSE BEYERS DONT MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME-THESE BEYER ARE SAYING THAT VENTURA IS MUCH BETTER THAN FOREEVER TOGETHER

those beyers are just plain crap

steve s 22 Sep 2009 1:50 PM

Jason,

    I missed it, but Good Call on "Condemned"...

Greg J. 22 Sep 2009 3:31 PM

Cindi,

Santa Anita has barn tours early in the mornings.  You can call Santa Anita and see what they offer.  Also, you might try calling Chip Woolley's barn there to see if you can come back and see MTB.  The people at Santa Anita will be happy to help you.

Monica V 22 Sep 2009 3:52 PM

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