Saturday Picks

Here are my thoughts and picks for the Saturday Breeders' Cup races:

Juvenile Turf

It's hard to discount the three Europeans since they have won this event in its first three years, although the group they have sent over here is not their best. And, there is the question if they will like the firm turf. Master of Hounds is the lukewarm favorite at 9-2 in a wide-open race. It's hard to separate him and Montoba.

Soldat and Pluck will likely take most of the American action, with Air Support and Banned also receiving support. I don't have a strong opinion on this race, but a logical upset possibility for me is Madman Diaries, who likes to run on the front end and should be in good position coming off the turn. This is his first time going a mile, but he showed me enough in the Sapling and has been working lights out for Wesley Ward. Ward is a master with 2-year-olds.

1. Madman Diaries

2. Soldat

3. Master of Hounds

4. Pluck

Sprint

This might not be the strongest BC Sprint we've seen, but it's a very good betting race. Big Drama nearly always fires and has speed numbers that stack up with any of these. But he might be forced to the front quicker than he wants to by his inside post. Girolamo is the tepid morning-line choice but he has never run here and isn't as experienced at running six furlongs as some of these.

Three horses stand out for me here: Wise Dan, Atta Boy Roy, and Warrior's Reward. All three are proven over the strip. Wise Dan is very sharp right now, as are all of Charles Lopresti's horses. He's lightly-raced, but getting very good at the right time, as he proved in the Phoenix when defeating a very good sprinter in Hollywood Hit. He can sit right off the pace and close on the pacesetters. Atta Boy is a speed burner and loves this track, as he proved in the CD Stakes in May. Calvin is back aboard. Warrior's Reward has never run a bad race at Churchill and will be there to pick up the pieces if the pace melts. Leparoux will time his ride right, we know that much.

1. Wise Dan

2. Warrior's Reward

3. Atta Boy Roy

4. Big Drama

Turf Sprint

A very deep and strong field this year. Like last year when it was run over Santa Anita's downhill course, I give an edge to the horses that have run well over this course. Five furlongs is a tricky distance at Churchill. Horses that fit that bill are Silver Timber, Chamberlain Bridge, and Stradivinsky.

Silver Timber set the five-furlong course record here is April and his prep at Keeneland last month shows he is sharp. He will be in the mix. Chamberlain Bridge will be making his 31st career start and fires almost every time. He is 3-1-0 from four starts here. Leave him out at your own risk. Stradivinsky was claimed for $50,000 by Michael Dubb (who also co-owns Silver Timber) in May, just before he won wire-to-wire on the Churchill course. He will be on or near the lead and might be hard to catch. The filly Rose Catherine also intrigues me, but I think she is running for minor placings. Also in the mix at a big price will be Due Date, who set the pace and missed by only a half-length to Silver Timber last out.

1. Stradivinsky

2. Chamberlain Bridge

3. Silver Timber

4. Rose Catherine

Juvenile

Other than the Classic, I'm looking forward to this race more than any other this weekend. Uncle Mo and Boys At Tosconova could not have looked more impressive in their last races. Uncle Mo has runaway speed and can carry it. Dominguez never had to move a muscle on Boys in the Hopeful and still galloped out very well past the wire. I don't think two turns will be an issue for either. I'm using both horses in my pick 3s, but I'm giving a slight edge to Boys. I think he will have a little more left inside the sixteenth-pole.

Stay Thirsty and Rogue Romance are the value in here as far as exotics go, but I'm not looking any further than the top two for the win.

1. Boys At Tosconova

2. Uncle Mo

3. Rogue Romance

4. Stay Thirsty

Mile

Freddie Head didn't care what the condition of the Churchill turf course was for Goldikova--she can run over anything. The one thing he wanted for his super mare was a good draw. He didn't get it. Goldikova drew post 10 and like last year (post 11), she will have to be at her very best to overcome it. She was able to at Santa Anita because she received a good trip and a great ride. I'm not so sure she can do it this time. And I definitely don't think she is a single. This year's field is much better than 2009.

If Goldikova is to be upset, Gio Ponti, Proviso, Court Vision, and Paco Boy, who lost narrowly to Goldikova three times, are the most logical. Gio Ponti was superb at Keeneland in the Turf Mile and if he runs back to that effort I think he wins. He will be coming at the end. Proviso has won four consecutive grade Is--four of them at the distance. She can't be ignored. Court Vision may be getting overlooked here a bit because of the top two. His Woodbine Mile was sensational and he has run well twice here. One mile is right up his ally. Sidney's Candy will have the lead. How far can he carry it?

This is the start of the late pick 4. I'm going four-deep.

  1. Gio Ponti
  2. Proviso
  3. Goldikova
  4. Court Vision

Dirt Mile

I was a little bummed the second choice, Crown of Thorns, was scratched because I didn't like him at all. I also do not care for the favorite, Morning Line.

Vineyard Haven should be much sharper than he was in the Forego in his third off a layoff. He never runs a bad race and should receive a nice stalking trip from Garcia for his stretch run. I expect him to win. If he doesn't, Here Comes Ben could do it. Again, Lopresti's horses are just way too sharp right now to leave off tickets. His Forego was huge and he hasn't lost since last year.

Longhots to consider in here are Theskyhasnolimit and Aikenite. Theskyhasnolimit ran very well against Lookin At Lucky and is getting very good at the right time. Aikenite is much better at one turn and nearly set the track record at Keeneland last out. Ran stride-for-stride with Quality Road is latest work.

  1. Vineyard Haven
  2. Theskyhasnolimit
  3. Here Comes Ben
  4. Aikenite

Turf

I do not have a strong opinion on this race, but will take a stand against Workforce. It seems as though they have changed their minds about running him every 10 minutes. Al Khali is sharp and I think will run well, but I'm siding with Behkabad, who has faced better. I will go deep in the race in the pick 3 and 4.

  1. Behkabad
  2. Al Khali
  3. Dangerous Midge
  4. Workforce

Classic

Let's get Zenyatta out of the way first. Contrary to popular belief I have nothing against the horse and if she wins I will tip my cap and say, ‘job well done.' And if she does win, I won't feel any need to come on here and say ‘I was wrong' or anything to that effect. All I am doing is picking against an 8-5 favorite. Don't take it personally; there is no emotion involved for me. I stand by the opinion that she had a very conservative and disappointing campaign, and even if she wins, I will still feel that way. A victory here earns her Horse of the Year, without a doubt. But a loss, whether by a nose or 10 lengths, takes her out of consideration. That's how I feel.

As for the race, she will be coming at the end; she always does. And I agree that she likes dirt and even improves on it. But in last year's Classic she was running mostly against turf and dirt horses that were backing up on the Cushion Track in the final furlong. With a few exceptions, they were spinning their wheels. That won't be happening this time. The top horses in this race relish dirt. And she will have to pass them on at a track that is very difficult to close on. At 8-5 or lower, I think she's a play against. Bottom of exotics, yes; To win, no. I hope that doesn't offend anyone. It's my money.

I've been back-and-forth on this race for a while now, but have finally landed on the horse I've liked since this time last season: Blame. There is nothing not to like about him. He has never run off the board in his career, he loves the track (3-for-4), he will get first run over Zenyatta at the pacesetters, has a world-class rider, has looked great in his works at Keeneland, and will be a nice price (I'm thinking 6 or 7-1). The Gold Cup, which was his first race at 10 furlongs, is not a problem for me. There was no pace for him to run at and he was still closing willingly at the end. It was a nice prep for him. I think he is the most logical winner.

The other horse I think makes sense is Lookin At Lucky. Like Blame, he is very consistent. He has still never run a bad race when he's gotten a fair trip. In person, he looks like a million bucks. The horse has blossomed since the early part of the year and is a man now. Garcia fits him like a glove. There wasn't much in the Indiana Derby, but the way he closed in the mud on a speed favoring track was brilliant. He is a must use.

I wouldn't be shocked if Quality Road had a three-length lead at the top of the lane and held them off, but there are too many good closers in here for me to back him for the win. I would have liked to see him have a prep for this in his first race at 10 furlongs this year.

Of the true longshots, I prefer Haynesfield, Musket Man, and Paddy O'Prado. If Haynesfield can fend off Quality Road he can take his lead a long way. The Asmussen factor at Churchill helps sway me. Musket Man never runs poorly and has two good efforts over the track. Paddy has been as good as any 3-year-old this year, save Lookin At Lucky, and is a true 10-furlong horse.

  1. Blame
  2. Lookin At Lucky
  3. Musket Man
  4. Zenyatta

I wish everyone the best of luck. Cash a lot of tickets!

198 Comments

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Sylvester

I like Blame too but I don't agree that Zenyatta is going to finish in front of Quality Road.  I have my doubts she'll beat First Dude.

05 Nov 2010 2:45 PM
-Keelerman

Jason;

Very nice post. Good job. I especially enjoyed your analysis of the Classic.

That said, here are my picks. . .

JUVENILE TURF: Utely

SPRINT: Smiling Tiger or Wise Dan

TURF SPRINT: Silver Timber

JUVENILE: Jaycito

MILE: Goldikova

DIRT MILE: Here Comes Ben

TURF: Behkabad

CLASSIC: Zenyatta

On a side note, over the last two years, East coast-based horses have run poorly in the Breeders' Cup over the synthetic surface at Santa Anita. I think it would be interesting to caculate after this year's Breeders' Cup which "coast" won more races ---- West Coast or East Coast. I would be interested in your opinions on where the East turns into the West. Does Arlington count as a West coast track or an East coast track?

I'll pick the West coast to supply the most winners this year. :)

-Keelerman

05 Nov 2010 2:50 PM
BigBadAndMean

It's your money ,however with wagers like that not for long.Behkabad is the only one I agree with so I will have to rethink that one.Hope everyone comes back safe

05 Nov 2010 3:21 PM
RS

1. Zenyatta

2. Espoir City

#. Pleasant Prince

05 Nov 2010 3:34 PM
Fuzzy Corgi

Romp would have gone down in the Marathon if A. U. Miner wasn't there to support him.

05 Nov 2010 4:56 PM
Mike Relva

JASON

I also like VH. Everyone is different,but I'm glad I have emotion, wouldn't trade it for nothing. Good on all your races.

05 Nov 2010 6:22 PM
Pedigree Shelly

           The BC Marathon !! What can you say !! The fight between Borel and Castellano really cost me !! I had Prince Will I Am and Eldaafer in a $10 exacta box !! After the DQ ,I was madder than Calvin !!!

   Well, There is always tommorow !!! I Hope :)

05 Nov 2010 7:18 PM
2:24

Jason, nice call on More Than Real.  Hope you cashed a big ticket.

05 Nov 2010 7:52 PM
Mike Relva

JASON

Meant to say good luck on your races.

05 Nov 2010 7:53 PM
jayjay

I'm sticking with my longshot picks even after todays disaster lol :

I really like Biondetti, only ride for Ajtebi and Gayego in the Dirt Mile, Court Vision in the Mile

Juvenile Turf :  Soldat, Madman Diaries / Mantoba, Air Support, Banned

Sprint :  Kinsale King, Big Drama / Girolamo, Warrior's Reward, Smiling Tiger

Turf Sprint : Waveline, Rose Catherine / Silver Timber, Unzip Me, Canadian Ballet

Juvenile : Biondetti, Jaycito / J.B.'s Thunder, Uncle Mo, Stay Thirsty

Mile : Court Vision, Proviso / Goldikova / Gio Ponti,Sidney's Candy

Dirt Mile : Gayego / Cool Coal Man, Here Comes Ben, Dakota Phone, Vineyard Haven

Turf : Behkabad, Champ Pegasus / Winchester, Workforce, Al Khali

Classic : Zenyatta / Fly Down, Blame, Paddy O'Prado, LAL, First Dude, Musket Man

05 Nov 2010 8:00 PM
Fuzzy Corgi

Ok ESPN, you've beat the 'jockey fight in the winners circle' horse to death. Give it a rest.

05 Nov 2010 8:03 PM
Frank J.

Hey Jason, how do u feel about Shared Account?? Pleasantly Perfect already has a BC winner and Point Given is still...well trying..too bad. Wasn't that good of a race horse and an outright failure as a sire.

05 Nov 2010 8:27 PM
Frank J

No, you and Dray have been hating on Z for 3 plus years. You have had the opportunity to promote this great mare and all you both have done is slammed her for one reason or another. Dirt, competition, whatever, she has prevailed and is in 3 BC's in a row..last 2 years you bet against her and this year you have Blame.. good luck with that.

05 Nov 2010 8:34 PM
skyfire

Well, the beauty of horse racing is that there is tomorrow!!

Pluck, Attaboyroy, Rose Catherine, Stay Thirsty, Court Vision, Theskyhasnolimit, Behkabad

I'm with you in the Classic:  Blame and Lucky!  

Awesome Feather was nice -- filly from synthetics??? Nahhh, go Blame!!  (After tomorrow, it's Derby talk and football:  go Patriots!!)

05 Nov 2010 8:41 PM
Pedigree Shelly

          Frank J , Shared Account was one of the feel good moments for me today ! Pleasantly Perfect is deserving of her win on his stud resume' He was underrated as a racehorse . Life At Ten is really bugging me ! What went wrong ?

05 Nov 2010 8:45 PM
Rocky Road Farm

I heard "Ring Magazine"...Boxing's Bible wants to put Calvin on the cover of their next issue!!!!!!....What about the last race today!!!!....It is not FAIR to the "PUBLIC" when they do not scratch a Horse that is not right!!!!...I tried to get a hold of John the Bald...but no answer!!!!

05 Nov 2010 8:48 PM
skyfire

Re:  Blame

Al Stall is hot:  too winners today.

05 Nov 2010 8:58 PM
Laura House

Hmmm...forgot about Musket man on this track..you're welcome...go ZEN

05 Nov 2010 9:00 PM
GoldenBroom

I know this is about picking tomorrow's winners but I have to point to today to justify my picks for tomorrow...Awesome Feather, underrated and winning only on her home turf until today (sounds an awful lot like Z)...she's still undefeated! Also in the Ladies Classic, who wins it? But one of the 2 horses that beat Rachel this year...I think Rachel ran well and just got beat by 2 very good fillies, I think the filly/mare division this year was overall pretty darn strong and still the strongest all ducked Zenyatta.

On the down side, I did not see much movement towards the end in  any of the dirt races (I have yet to watch the earlier allowances and stakes) so I am very concerned for all the closers who have come from well off before. I think Z will have to be much much MUCH closer to have any shot. I think it may be LAL or someone a little closer to the front...rooting for Z but Baffert may be shining in this one.

05 Nov 2010 9:08 PM
Johnny

Not a bad day today with the ladies..

Hit 2 ex and 1 tri

Do the longshots continue tomorrow I think so

Rose Catherine and Roggue Romance Sidneys candy are my longshots

Good luck

05 Nov 2010 9:09 PM
2:24

Frank J. - that was a stupid comment regarding Point Given.  The part about him as a race horse especially.  And as a sire, your definition of outright failure must be synonymous with a normal person's definition of useful sire.  I hope your post was some kind of joke because it was one of the stupidest posts I've ever read.

05 Nov 2010 9:41 PM
F

Blame?? That's the best you got??? hahaha wait Jason let me go open another Dos Equis Amber...Stay Thirsty My Friends....

05 Nov 2010 11:07 PM
OldFashionedRunner

I didn't really care much who won the races today. But I did care who won the Lady's Classic; I chose Unrivaled Belle and what do you know, she won it. Haha. I am nervous for the Classic tomorrow, Zenyatta must win!

05 Nov 2010 11:12 PM
Ranagulzion

That 2YO filly Awesome Feather looks like Rachel Alexandra's successor.  Be sure to follow her next year.  If her new owners (from the up coming sale) decide to go the timid/soft campaign route with her, she could even become Zenyatta's successor.  This is a very very smart filly.  She is versatile, game and has the heart of a champion.

My trifectas for Saturday are as follows:

Juv. Turf: Air Support, Soldat, Madman Diaries

Sprint: Big Drama, Warrior's Reward, Pachito the Che

Turf sprint: Bridgetown, Rose Catherine, Chamberline bridge

Juvenile: Uncle Mo, Boys at Toscanova, Rogue Romance

Mile: Sydney's Candy, Goldikova, Court Vision

Dirt Mile: Vineyard Haven, Tizway, Here Comes Ben

BC Turf: Behkabad, Winchester, Workforce

BC Classic: Quality Road, Haynesfield, Blame

For the first time I think that Zenyatta is going to be outclassed here ...but don't get me wrong, I still love the mare.

The time has finally arrived

they can't run anymore, there is no race or place to hide

Stuck her in Cali for so very long

But at Churchill Downs is where the field is strong.

If she wins this Breeder's Cup Classic with Quality Road in the race, I solemnly promise that this will be my last/final posting under my moniker Ranagulzion.  

I honestly love Zenyatta (but am upset w/her connections), she is an amazing racehorse.  She mesmerized me in the Classic last year on her Pro-ride playground and this year I was thrilled out of my socks with the way she ran down St. Trinians in the Vanity.  However this BCC field is not a girl's play pen and these colts will not be easy pickings.  Right now she's stuck, not in Cali but on 19-0 with the New Mexico champion Pepper's Pride (no disrespect meant to PP) ...but this is not a comfortable place for her to stop at.  This is a cold fact.  If she falters at this hurdle I wish that her connections would seek redemption in Dubai next March before planning a date in the Breeding shed with either Galileo, Sea The Stars or Giant's Causeway (I know some are thinking "what about AP Indy?" ...yawn ...we'd have to forget about her producing a Triple crown winner).

If she proves me wrong this time I'll appear on here after the race and herafter forever under the "hocus pocus" moniker: Rumpelstiltskin, as a tribute to Zenyatta (while eating all the crow that Mike Relva, Jay Jay, Carlos in Cali, Paula Higgins, Kay, Aluminaut, Lazmannick and all the army of Zen-crusaders throw my way).

Quality Road has got to be an exceptional horse to silence such a crowd ...and I think that he will, and be duly honoured with the HOTY crown.

When all is said and done, shouldn't this be all good fun?

Even though the celebrity mare that has never won Horse of the Year

may cause a host of fans to shed many a tear

Lets all take it in stride and let peace and love abide.

05 Nov 2010 11:23 PM
Ranagulzion

Life at Ten's situation/performance in the Distaff looks very suspicious and should be investigated by the stewards.  She was one of the sure shots on the program and was coming to run huge. What do you think Jason?  

05 Nov 2010 11:31 PM
stevebiscuit

I was at Churchill today, and the track didn't seem to be all that speed favoring.

06 Nov 2010 12:09 AM
stevebiscuit

Jason, your win percentage for Friday should come as encouragement to Zenyatta fans.

06 Nov 2010 12:18 AM
Ivan

Juvenile Turf: Master of Hounds, Soldat, Mantoba

Sprint: Kinsale King, Supreme Summit, Riley Tucker

Turf Sprint: Grand Adventure, Tropic Storm, Silver Timber

Juvenile: Biondetti, Jaycito, Uncle Mo

Mile: Goldikova, Sidney’s Candy, Paco Boy

Dirt Mile: Tizway, Crown of Thorns, Dakota Phone

Turf: Behkabad, Workforce, Winchester

Classic: Zenyatta, Fly Down, Blame

06 Nov 2010 12:18 AM
UKpunter

A blank for us on the 1st day but Mantoba , Debussy and Pacos Boy could make it a brighter 2nd day.

06 Nov 2010 12:26 AM
Footlick

Juv Turf- Madman Diaries, Air Support, Soldat, Utley

Sprint- Smiling Tiger, Paschito the Che, Warrior's Reward

Turf Sprint- Unzip Me, Quick Enough, Rose Catherine

Juv- Biondetti, JP's Gusto, Uncle Mo, Jaycito

Mile- Proviso, Gio Ponti, The Usual OT, Goldikova

Dirt Mile- Theskyhasnolimit, Vineyard Haven, Aikenite, Tizway

Turf- Bekhabad, Al Khali, Dangerous Midge, Champ Pegasus

Classic- Zenyatta, Fly Down, Blame, LaL, Quality Road

06 Nov 2010 12:30 AM
thomas

JuvT: Soldat and Typhoon Slew

Sprint: Big Drama, Kinsale King and Hamazing Destiny

Juv: Jb Thunder, Stay Thirsty and Rouge Romance

Dirt Mile: Cool Coal Man, Gayego and Aikenite

Mile: Proviso and Court Vision

Turf Sprint: Chamberlaine Bridge, California Flag and Canadien Ballet

Turf: Winchester, Telling and Champ pegasus

Classic: Blame, Espoir City, Etched(besides rooting for Zenyatta)

06 Nov 2010 2:00 AM
Bigtex

If Lookin at Lucky gets a good trip, he's going to run down Quality Road in this, his coming out party.  I don't think Zenyatta can run him down.  My only other scenario here is a big upset by Haynesfield who may be better than he was in the Gold Cup.  Sentimentally, I'm pulling for Quality Road who couldn't buy a break last year as a 3 yr old.

06 Nov 2010 2:23 AM
hejoso

Here are my picks, made with a bit less confidence after watching Friday's races:

JuvTurf -- Soldat, Master of Hounds, Willcox Inn, Air Support

Sprint -- Big Drama, Warrior's Reward, Smiling Tiger, Pashito the Che

TurfSprint -- Unzip Me, California Flag, Grand Adventure, Silver Timber

Juvenile -- Uncle Mo, Jaycito, Rogue Romance, Stay Thirsty

Mile -- Proviso, Goldikova, Gio Ponti, Court Vision

DMile -- Gayego, Hurricane Ike, Dakota Phone, Morning Line (I originally had Crown of Thorns on top, so I just bumped the others up when he was scratched)

Turf -- Dangerous Midge(!), Winchester, Workforce, Champ Pegasus

Classic -- Zenyatta, Paddy O'Prado, Musket Man, Blame (I'm anticipating a fast early pace)

Guess we will see.

06 Nov 2010 2:25 AM
Dr Drunkinbum

Let's get ready to rumble !!! The Ragin' Cajun calls Castellano a pencilneckgeek. Castellano says, "leggo my eggo," and throws a punch bloodying Borel's nose. Ragin' Cajun had murder in his eyes but was being mightily restrained and couldn't get at Castellano. I say we set up a grudge match and let them square off in the ring. Boxing Promoter- Ted from LA might be just the man for this job.

06 Nov 2010 4:00 AM
GunBow

I'm going to quickly run down the Cali horses for the Saturday races.  I'm not keen on many of them.

Juvy Turf-

No Cali entrant.  Why does California have no preps for the 2 juvenile turf races?

Sprint-

Smiling Tiger: He would be my selection if this were being run at Hollywood Park.  This is a very good 3 year old sprinter, a 2-time gr.1 winner who also outran Concord Point going 7 furlongs in a gr.3  But, he is young and has never shipped, and never run over Chuchill.  Maybe for a placing.

Kinsale King: He can ship as proven with a win in the Dubai Golden Shaheen and a 3rd at Ascot.  But he hasn't run in about half a year and has been running on synthetic and turf.  He's fast, but this is alot to ask.

Supreme Summit: Had been a disappointment until his 2nd in the Ancient Title. He ran ok on dirt when 4th in the Gulfstream Mile.  Honestly, I'ven never been a big fan of his, but Puype is hot and this horse does seem to be peaking.  Maybe he runs onto the bottom of the superfecta.

I think Jason is probably on the right track going for longshots proven at Churchill.

Turf Sprint

Unzip Me:

She's fast, consistent and won shipping out to Woodbine.  But she's never faced the type of speed she will see here.  I respect her, but there are some grizzled males on the hometeam.

California Flag:

The defending champ just hasn't looked good lately. And once they start losing form, it's hard to find it again.

Tropic Storm:

He's been running at a mile, so seeing him here surprised me.  Maybe if the distance was 6.5 furlongs I would give him a look, but at 5 furlongs?  I expect the Chuchill specialists to dominate.

Juvenile-

JP's Gusto: I respect this hard trying youngster, but I just don't think he can get the ditance against this level of competition.

Riveting Reason:

He's run 3rd in 3 straight gr.1 races, but he never really threatened in either.  He is well bred, and bred for the distance, but I just don't think he's good enough.

Jaycito: I like this colt and think he may be this crop's most promising Triple Contender.  However, I don't know if he's brilliant enough to beat really good middle distance horses like Uncle Mo and Boys at Toscanova.  I also don't know if he is far enough along mentally.  This is a horse with potential, but he's not quite polished enough yet.  Maybe he runs on late for 3rd, like Alysheba did.

Mile-

The Usual QT: I've been a big fan of this horse and I think he will run as well as just about any other Californian on the day.  He had to go wide at Woodbine and hit the lead a little too soon; if the trips were reversed, I think he beats Court Vision that day.  QT is a multiple grade 1 winner, is a proven shipper, and had a great prep.  If he can work out a trip with cover, he has an explosive move.  Goldi is obviously the horse to beat, but QT figures to be involved at the wire.

Sidney's Candy: I just don't like him in this spot.  

Dirt Mile-

Dakota Phone: He's run 3rd in 3 gr.1 races this year, but he hasn't run well on dirt or even Hollywood's Cushion Track.  Pass.

Hurricane Ike: He did win the Derby Trial at this distance on this track.  However, the 2nd half of his year has been slowed by injury.  Tough task.

Turf-

Champ Pegasus: This is a horse really on the upswing.  I expect him to be a real force....next year.  Right now, he's inferior to Eastern horses like Al Khali and Winchester let alone the Euros.

Classic-

Zenyatta: If I knew for certain that Zenyatta was as good right now as she was last year, I would actaully be fairly confident that she wins.  However, she is 6 years old, and has had to deal with a massize frame.  Is it possible she is carrying too much flesh and is  a little more sluggish?  

All I know is that she just hasn't been quite as sharp since the Apple Blossom.  Before, she would cruise up to horses on the far turn and then imperceptibly shift into overdrive to win easily.  More recently, after cruising into contention she has tended to stall a little, creating moments of panic before hitting her best stride.  She can't do this against this field, over a surface she has never raced over.

Fortunately for fans of Z, there appears to be ample speed lined up for the Classic and two of her main foes, Quality Road and Lookin at Lucky, drew poorly.  The 10 furlong distance and the Churchill stretch will play to her strengths, so I think she will be charging into contention late.  But it just might not be enough to catch the hometrack horse, Blame.  Lookin at Lucky for 3rd.  With no money on the race, I hope I'm wrong.

06 Nov 2010 6:24 AM
Vince

great day's racing. I was lucky enough to back more than real and unrivaled belle. in a double as well. shared account was a great ride. outkicked midday. still a good performance by midday, had a lot of group 1 winners behind. pleased for motion.

the highlight though was calvin borel. you can see where they got the plot for deliverance from. those eyes. wow.  

06 Nov 2010 7:46 AM
Point Over

I think Frank J's posting should be deleted. As a sire I agree with him, but check out Point Given's career as a racehorse and tell me he wasn't that good? He'd smoke this classic field and Pleasantly Perfect for that matter.

06 Nov 2010 8:23 AM
Rowner

I had the super in that race, I stuck #5 Shared Account at the last minute because of the long odds. She looked the most promising of the longer shots. In the Classic I would love to see Zen win for the sport but I like LOL and Blame. I am afraid that QR will get done in by his post.

06 Nov 2010 9:06 AM
longwaytomay

Jason,

 Thanks for the call on More Than Real. Hope you saw my pick of Shared Account. I will post my picks for today after I do a little more homework.

06 Nov 2010 9:16 AM
Racingfan

Juv Turf:  Madman Diaries, Air Support, Major Gain

Dirt Mile: Morning Line, Thiskyhasnolimit, Tiz Way.

Sprint:  Smiling Tiger, Girolamo, Cash Refund.

Turf Sprint:  California Flag, Silver Timber, Chamberlain Bridge.

Juv:  Uncle Mo, Stay Thirsty, JP'S Gusto

Mile: Proviso, Goldikova, Court Vision/Sidney's Candy.

Turf:  Workforce, Winchester, Champ Pegasus.

Classic:  Zenyatta, Lookin At Lucky, First Dude, Blame.

Draynay: before you sign off for three months, be sure to admit you were wrong about Zenyatta and apologize to all of us for all the garbage we have had to put up with from you.

Jason, just for curiosity, why no handicapping contest this year?  

Shared Account was tough yesterday - I have been watching her since I found out who she was owned by.  Hopefully it is just the beginning of Sagamore Farms return to the glory days!!

06 Nov 2010 9:24 AM
Criminal Type

Jason, some good picks there, some IMO, not so hot, LOL. As you may remember, I've been high on Shared Account for some time. Not just because she's a good race horse, but because of what her owner Kevin Plank is trying to do for Maryland racing, and let's face it, with the slots question passing at Arundel Mill's mall, effectively shutting the doors at Laurel & Pimlico, Maryland needs whatever it can get. Hopefully David Cordish will live up to his word and earmark some of that slots money to the MJC. Maybe, just maybe Sagamore can return our state to the great horse racing fixture it once was. I had a 20 on her nose last night and man did she come through. Congrats to all the SAGAMORE family, Edgar & Shared Account on a spectacular and thrilling win. Kudo's to Unriveled Belle too, another thrilling race. Had a 20 on her too.  Laughing at whoever said First Dude will beat Zenyatta. Not bloody likely.

06 Nov 2010 9:31 AM
draynay

I will be betting big on BAT and Quality Road today.  There are not enough good horses on the planet to keep him off the board Jason.  Zenyatta will get beat by MM today.

06 Nov 2010 9:31 AM
Jason Shandler

I also believe Life At Ten should have been scratched. You cant have the trainer and jockey saying the horse isnt right 10 minutes before the race and not notify the vet. I was disappointed they put her in the gate.

Steve: My win percentage was poor, this is true. But ROI is all that matters. The tri paid $450. You do the math.

longway: Nice call on Shared Account! Hope you cashed big.

Hope to see you guys on the live blog at noon.

Some of you Zealouts are angry people. Your nasty comments wont be published so stop wasting your time on here.

06 Nov 2010 9:42 AM
Citation

Here are my top picks today:

Juvenile Turf: Pluck

Dirt Mile: Vineyard Have, Hurricane Ike

Sprint: Smiling Tiger

Turf Sprint: Grand Adventure, Tropic Storm

Juvenile: Murjan

Mile: Sidney's Candy, Court Vision for backup.

Turf: Since I think Workforce is gonna scratch, Bekhabad and Champ Pegasus.

Classic: QR, Zenyatta, and Etched in some order.

I'll probably do poorly just like yesterday, but oh well.

06 Nov 2010 9:44 AM
Footlick

Workforce scratched.  What a surprise :p

06 Nov 2010 10:28 AM
jon

I have same feeling about Zenyatta, who is overmatched today against Blame, Quality Road, and Lookin at Lucky. She faces possible defeat, and could be in trouble-ie.have to be eased, or finish 8th or so. I also worry that the toughest race of her career could leave her overly confident barn with an injured mare because of recklessness and pushing her too hard when she should have been retired. I think her barn is pushing their luck today, and greed will always be the downfall of horses.

Uncle Mo is my choice in the Juvenile for the simple reason that he is already one for the ages. He certainly outclassed the maiden ranks with a 102 Beyer, but regressed in the Champagene with a 94 Beyer, and no one has mentioned that. However, this will a tougher race than the Champagne for Uncle Mo, and if he is the next Seattle Slew, the added distance and pressure from Boys will make no difference. My opinion of the other colts in the race is that they are there to fill up the race, do not have the talent of Uncle Mo, and I think he should be battle worn and sharpened by this race. In other words, we have already seen the next Derby Winner in Uncle Mo, and nothing the other colts do will make a difference.

06 Nov 2010 10:33 AM
Footlick

Ranagulzion- I would add Montjeu also to the list on Zenyatta's suitors

06 Nov 2010 10:34 AM
Greg J.

Frank J.,

You said, "No, you and Dray have been hating on Z for 3 plus years."

While I agree with you about Dray, Jason at least voted for Zenyatta for HOY two years ago.  

Juvenile Turf:  Banned and Mantoba

Sprint:  Smiling Tiger and Wise Dan

Turf Sprint:  BIG win bet on California Flag, with Due Date for the exacta

Juvenile:  Boys At Tosconova(despite the curse of Dray), J. B.'s Thunder, Rogue Romance, and Jaycito to round out the super.

Mile:  Goldikova, Sidney's Candy, Gio Ponti, and Proviso.

Dirt Mile:  Vineyard Haven, Tizway, and Mine that Bird to finish third(I know, I am nuts!)

Turf:  Dangerous Midge wire to wire :)

The Classic:  Zenyatta in her biggest victory, breaking two minutes.  I will add Lookin at Lucky with Paddy O'Prado.

Good Luck to ALL!!!!!!

06 Nov 2010 10:49 AM
2:24

I will be rooting for Zenyatta today but don't see her winning.  I will be happy to come on the blog and eat crow if she does however.

If Quality Road goes off anywhere near his early odds of 12 to 1 he may be the bet of a lifetime.

06 Nov 2010 11:01 AM
Mike Relva

JASON

Got to agree with you regarding LAT. Very disappointed in both trainer and rider.

06 Nov 2010 11:01 AM
Pedigree Ann

Where is all the love for Madman Diaries in the Juvie Turf coming from? Has no turf form, sire had no turf form, dam produced no turf winners, second dam is Meafara, for goodness sake! If this horse can win at 2 turns on dirt or AW it will be surprise. On turf? I beg to differ.

06 Nov 2010 11:02 AM
Old Timer

Jason,

Best of luck. The two miles are just fantastic races. Proviso loves a mile on the garss, as you said. Plus, I just noticed that on the same day at the same distance at Keeneland, Proviso ran a tick faster than Gio Ponti. She is definitely a live one. But you also have Gio: Goldi; Usual QT; Court Vision; and Paco Boy; any of whom are possible. what a race! Here Comes Ben is my pick in Dirt Mile.

06 Nov 2010 11:14 AM
thomas

since Typhoon Slew is out, Pluck will replace him for me

06 Nov 2010 11:18 AM
Linda/Maryland

I was very dissapointed in both the trainer and jockey for not scratching LAT before the race, even here in Maryland I could see something was really WRONG.

As for my picks today:

BCC:  ZENYATTA~!! All the way~!

06 Nov 2010 11:19 AM
Linda in Texas

The situation with Life at Ten was very suspicious. Why in the world would you give an injection of Lasix at such a late hour prior to a big race? And had she shown the same reactions previously?

What else was in the injection besides Lasix?  Whatever it was, it did the opposite to her.

This is what turns off potential horse racing fans. She did not act right, look right or feel right, all quoted from trainer and jockey prior to the race. Good for the jockey pulling her up when he did.

What more would a trainer have to see to let him know something was not right before putting her in the gate???

Check it out Stewards. And keep today's participants away from 'fans'.

I was sorry for Winter Memories not winning. A good race regardless. Unlike Jason, i do have emotion and wanted "Memories" for that very reason due to the date of her foaling on the very day one of her owner's was buried 2 years ago.

Unrivaled Belle, when i studied her pedigree I had great interest in her, though not involved in betting, i would have done well. She looked a lot like Eight Belles in both color and the manner in which she raced. I was happy for her. And Blind Luck, what a trooper. None are losers to me, not any of them.

Good Luck to all in today's races. And Safe Trips to all jockeys and especially to their beautiful modes of transportation !!

Thanks Jason for your prompt articles on the races/winners as

some of us have to rely strictly on our computers for results.

06 Nov 2010 11:30 AM
Jason Shandler

Mike: Good luck on our bet today.

06 Nov 2010 11:40 AM
nickie

Jay et al, I realize opinions are, ...well like the supply of cash from the Fed, but I will be using Jimmy Bonds runner Tiznow in the 9th in all my horizontal bets...he was disappointed last year things didn't work out, and has this one on his toes...and the price is nice!....good luck to all

06 Nov 2010 11:40 AM
sherpa

At the end of the day, I sincerely hope there won't be "crow" dished out from EITHER side of the Zenyatta debate.  I know that's hoping for the near-impossible, given the ferocity of feeling she has engendered in these blogs; but dammit, this is horse-racing, not politics.  Win or lose, be kind.

06 Nov 2010 11:50 AM
Rachel

I am very angry at the Life At Ten decision to run her yesterday, and not because of money (yes, she was in my play)...

Go ♥ Zenyatta ♥ Go

I did put a win bet on Musket Man, though...I really want Zen to win, but I believe MM will get a big one someday, so since I'm not playing her....

06 Nov 2010 12:05 PM
LAZMANNICK

Regarding Zenyatta......my only concern is a track bias and from the first two races we are already starting to see that the track is favoring speed and horses that are forwardly placed.  We saw this yesterday in the stretch.  Horses like Blind Luck and Switch made good progress but weren't close enough at the top of the stretch and couldn't really gain on the leaders, both of which in their respective races had good leads.  It's one thing for a horse to get beat.  It's quite another when the track defeats a horse and not necessarily the competition.  I hope the track plays fair for all.

06 Nov 2010 1:12 PM
Greg J.

A sign?

In the first three races at Churchill today, the #8 has won two of them.....Zenyatta is #8

06 Nov 2010 1:20 PM
Dee

What a day yesterday! My main concern today is how the track will play, if it will be against closers. Fantastic races by Awesome Feather and Unrivaled Belle, and Romp and Martin Garcia for not falling and creating a catastrophic spill, and Martin somehow staying on the horse when he was launched out of the saddle! Watching them go around the turn during the race my heart stopped when I thought I saw them go down. Thankfully Calvin's horse was there for him to push himself back into the saddle. I had Awesome Feather to win and was really impressed with her effort in the stretch, showing a lot of heart and determination when that other horse came over to her. Unrivaled Belle's win has to support Rachel's form in her loss, and of course another nice effort by Blind Luck.

Boxing them and hoping some longshots will make for nice prices....

Sprint: Smiling Tiger, Atta Boy Roy, Big Drama, Hamazing Destiny.

-I've liked Big Drama for a long time, but I'm  concerned about drawing the 1. I might throw Warrior's Reward in there somewhere.

Juvenile: Rogue Romance, Boys at Tosconova, Uncle Mo, Jaycito.

Turf Mile: Really had the hardest time with this one. I can't see  Goldikova and Gio Ponti not hitting the board somewhere. I also like Court Vision, The Usual QT, and will throw Sidney's Candy in there was the wild card- the course might play in his favor, but he is teh biggest questionmark.

Dirt Mile: Vinyard Haven, The Skyhasnolimit, Here Comes Ben, Tizway.  I wouldn't be surprised if Gayego or maybe even Cool Coal Man finished in the money, but I like those 4 best.

Turf: Behkabad, Al Khali, Dangerous Midge, Winchester.

Classic: Quality Road could very well win this, but I don't like the 1 post and have to bet against some of the favorites. I hope Zenyatta wins, because it would be great for racing. I do think she is that good but I also really like Lucky's chances. If he hadn't had the worst luck, I wonder how many of those races he would have won. Two horses that I have liked since the Derby Trail that I think will be at a good price with a shot, one who I think is really peaking for this race- Haynesfield, and Musket Man- always consistent, hard trying and versatile. I think First Dude is overmatched and Paddy won't do as well on dirt, making his big move but flattening out in the stretch. Kent D is always saying he's on the best horse he's ridden, from Big Brown, to Summer Bird, to Paddy.

-Zenyatta, Lookin at Lucky, Haynesfield, Musket Man. Will switch out Blame with the last two because it's hard to find any fault with him, unless he is too far back and we have a JCGC scenario.

Good luck everyone- hoping for a safe and exciting day of racing!

06 Nov 2010 1:25 PM
Zookeeper

You're correct Greg J., 2 of 3.

06 Nov 2010 1:35 PM
longwaytomay

Jason,

 When you see the connections of Life at Ten, the track vet, or anyone else who should have scratched her, tell them they owe me fifty bucks! I still have a bad taste in my mouth and it's not from the bourbon.

06 Nov 2010 1:41 PM
2:24

Taking your advice and backing Stradivinsky.

06 Nov 2010 2:55 PM
maggett

ZZZ  EEE  NNN  YYY  AAA  TTT  TTT AAA

         ALL  THE   WAY

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

06 Nov 2010 3:27 PM
Dr Drunkinbum

Uncle Mo detractors, Boys fans- Now do you get it?

06 Nov 2010 3:58 PM
2:24

OK, Uncle Mo, wow.

06 Nov 2010 4:00 PM
thomas

my first lose of the day. i had the exacta in thejuv turf and sprint and i had chamberlain bridge in the turf sprint now rougue romance runs third everyone else didn't fire.

06 Nov 2010 4:01 PM
thomas

jaycito ran by the field like it was nothing after the wire lol

06 Nov 2010 4:04 PM
skyfire

Goldikova = Horse of the World!!  Congratulations to the owners, trainer, and jockey!!  Great sportsmen to showcase her around the globe!!  What a great training performance by Freddie Head!!

An unbelievable campaign:  England, France and U.S.

Viva: Goldi!!  I think that she should be honored with an Eclipse.

06 Nov 2010 4:56 PM
GunBow

Catching some BC while at work.

Finally, we have some star performances!

Goldi.  Stop all the comparisons with Zenyatta.  They are so different.  Goldi can stand on her own.  She is truly a superstar, a horse for the ages. 3 BC Miles; Lure failed at Churchill in 94', but Goldi was absolutely dominant.  An historic treble, her 12th gr.1.  Enjoy this because it is rare.

And good runs by Gio and QT to fill out the trifecta.  I hope some of you used QT at the bottom of the tri.  I know my Cali horses.  Horses that I have liked, Smiling Tiger, Supreme Summit, Unzip Me, and QT have filled out exotics at good prices.

Then in the Juvenile Uncle Mo more than lived up to expectations.  I loved how he rated.  The question about 10 furlongs looms, but it is November, not May, and this was a special performance.  As I suggested, Jaycito just isn't ready mentally for this level of competition.

Speed seems to be dominant on dirt while the turf seems fair although frontrunners seem to be coming back.

06 Nov 2010 5:04 PM
Tiznowbaby

Goldi! Goldi! Goldi!

06 Nov 2010 5:12 PM
GunBow

The one Cali horse that wins on dirt, Dakota Phone, is a horse I really didn't care for.  His form on Cushion wasn't great, but he was coming off his best performance on that surface when 3rd in the Goodwood.  He has run 3rd in 3 gr.1 races this year, so the class is there, but he was miserable in his only dirt start this year.  But the pace went his way.

And this shows the surface is fair.  Horses have been winning on the lead because the pace scenarios set it up for speed; we've been seeing some really slow paces for dirt races.  Well, in the Dirt Mile the pace was scorching, and a closer won.

Congrats to Jerry Hollendorfer.  Morning Line ran very well to be 2nd and the veteran Gayego did well for 3rd.

06 Nov 2010 5:32 PM
jon

Anyone who watched the BC Juvenile watched a supremely talented colt demolish the field while rating nicely. Thus, as I wrote earlier, the other colts there were simply filling the race.  I think one would have to be optimistic that Uncel Mo will be one for the ages. We have a winter and spring ahead of us, and there will be late developers. However, if one watched the explosive turn of foot of Uncle Mo vs. the others, no one got close.

I was reminded of The Sham/Secretariat rivalry in watching this race, the way Boys tried his best. I am wondering what the Beyer was for Mo in this race? In any case, logically, there was no other outcome but what I said earlier about Uncle Mo. There is no one else as good as he is.

That said, a lot can change in 7 months. If Uncle Mo keeps progressing, I would bet my money on his winning the Triple Crown the way Secretariat and Seattle did. I feel as though he is something special, can run on the lead, and rate, so he has 2 ways to win, now, and is not just a speed horse. Go Mo!

06 Nov 2010 5:45 PM
ruffianruns

Goldikova rOcKs!!!

06 Nov 2010 5:50 PM
canzoneri

19-1 Blame your HOY

06 Nov 2010 6:55 PM
Mike Relva

JASON

Nice going! Email me asap.

06 Nov 2010 7:03 PM
Pedigree Ann

Ranagulzion, you are saved. Zenyatta did not win; but she did beat Quality Road by a good bit.

06 Nov 2010 7:06 PM
Mike Relva

DRAYNAY

Ok, I was wrong. But what about your QR? If memory serves me you said Zenyatta wouldn't even come to Kentucky and then you stated she wouldn't hit the board. Remember? Seems like QR didn't hit the ******* board!

06 Nov 2010 7:07 PM
ruffianruns

I love you Zenyatta.

06 Nov 2010 7:08 PM
Stacey

And there you have it. Undefeated no longer.

06 Nov 2010 7:09 PM
thomas

Cant be mad or sad but im greatful to witness the best female racehorse in history i tip my hat off to her and the connections. QUALITY ROAD DEAD LAST I DONT WANT TO HEAR IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOL

But Blame  i have always like him even when people said Quality Road was the best. I tip my hat off to the connections of Blame.

HOTY i dont know but Who Gives A ****!!!

06 Nov 2010 7:11 PM
thomas

What a race to cap a great breeders cup though

06 Nov 2010 7:16 PM
Monarchos Matt

Zenyatta certainly proved that she is a real racehorse, deserving of consideration as one of the all-time greates and no fluke on any surface. No shame in that loss, as she had it won with another stride, and that was one of the better horse races I have ever witnessed. Helped that I had Blame to win and hit the superfecta, saving my weekend, but that was an epic event. I am going to go watch it about ten times now.....

06 Nov 2010 7:17 PM
jayjay

Well, it was very disappointing to lose that way but I've always said many many times, Blame was her main competition.  It was a great race, and it was a great racing day for me except for Zenyatta not winning.

I got the Dirt Mile exacta and tri, and the Classic tri, super and High 5.  I can't celebrate right now as I'm pretty much devastated, I still can't take that loss, I really wanted that win.  I would give up all my winnings today just to get that race back.

I do have a feeling we're not done, my gut feeling is that we'll be back next year.  I do wish that she will retire after this, there's really nothing more to prove, except if it's a rematch with Blame.  I know she can beat him.

06 Nov 2010 7:20 PM
Footlick

Congrats on Blame Jason.  I only bet two races, tri's in the mile and Turf.  Zenyatta ran a wicked stretch.  Great race.

06 Nov 2010 7:22 PM
Jason Shandler

Great race. IMO, Garrett was the difference. Smith didnt ride poorly, but Garrett got everything out of Blame.

Congrats to all that cashed. Plenty to talk about.

06 Nov 2010 7:27 PM
Nancy

The big mare showed more heart in her loss today than in all her wins this year.

HOY... gotta go with Blame.

06 Nov 2010 7:27 PM
Saratoga AJ

You can say that Blame deserves HOTY because he had a great year topped off by beating the best horses in the country. And you are probably right.

But I'm a believer now. Zenyatta is even better than I thought and I thought she is one of the best fillies or mares ever. Now I say she belongs right up there with some of the best ever. And if she gets HOTY, no one should complain.

Her running style was always risky. She got away with it and was always able to run down other mares no matter how far back she was. It is a lot tougher with colts. It was a Hell of a race.

PS: Zito's Fly Down is a horse to watch next year. That 3yr old made a Hell of a run to nose out Lucky for show.

06 Nov 2010 7:28 PM
Bet Twice

What a great horse race.  Thought Blame and Zen were just awesome through the stretch.  Sad to see her lose her last, but there was nothing embarrassing about that performance.  Thanks Zenyatta for an amazing three years and congrats to Blame for a great race.  

06 Nov 2010 7:29 PM
Monarchos Matt

Jayjay- you had the tri in the Dirt Mile? Nicely done...

06 Nov 2010 7:29 PM
shuvee

Sometimes horses prove their greatness even more in the races they lose than in the ones they win. Blame's tactical speed allowed him to get the jump on Zenyatta (much as Sunday Silence always got the jump on Easy Goer, much to my chagrin, LOL)and he also finished strongly and was able to just hold her off.

But she ran her heart out. Hats off to both horses. This is what makes horse racing so compelling.

Also, you've gotta love Goldikova. A little bitty thing but what amazing acceleration. I think she only turned it on for about an eighth of a mile but she blew them away.

06 Nov 2010 7:31 PM
Ivan

Zenyatta lost nothing in defeat. For some reason she was very letargic at the start, and Smith had to ask her much earlier that he wanted, and that may have sealed the deal. Anyway, Z looked like a winner with a 100 yeds to go, but Gomez got Blame closer to Zenyatta, and he was able to withstand her late run.

Star of the day definitely goes to Goldikova, but Uncle Mo was more than impressive.

06 Nov 2010 7:37 PM
papillon

thanks for the memories Z--one more stride and you would have had him baby! if the difference between being horse of the year and not is a nostril...well i second thomas "who gives ****?!"

06 Nov 2010 7:38 PM
CV

WOW. That was an incredible stretch run and finish. A nose short!

Congrats to Blame. I wonder if Zenyatta could have passed him if she hadn't dropped so far back early and had so much to do.

Awesome race by both horses.  

06 Nov 2010 7:41 PM
thomas

Draynay is probably out on the street's drinkin grey goose LOL

06 Nov 2010 7:50 PM
Dr Drunkinbum

jayjay

   Good job !!!!!!!! The Queen is still one of the greatest. If Smith starts the run just a bit sooner she most likely wins or we finally get to see an Affirmed/Alydar type duel. Can you or anyone else explain to me how it helps the stud fee to run the best miler in the world in the Classic instead of the Dirt Mile? Isn't it time to start placing horses where they belong and enjoy the glory of a BC win? I hope that QR is a lesson to future owners and trainers. As far as track maintenance is concerned-CD-you have The Breeder's Cup next year. Do what is right with the turf maintenance and don't be influenced by Euro cry babies. It was too slippery early from over watering with closed drains.

06 Nov 2010 7:51 PM
Mike Relva

STACEY

Yeah,classy as always,you fail to mention she gave Blame ALL that he wanted. Nice.

06 Nov 2010 7:55 PM
Nancy

I'm a believer in Zenyatta moreso now than before especially after that performance. For me, she showed more heart and talent in her loss today than I've seen her show all year. It really tells me she should've been running against better competition all year.

06 Nov 2010 7:56 PM
ruffianruns

Reminds me of Slew's loss to Exceller in '78.  I think it was one of his greatest races.

Blame had a great trip and didn't fade.  Congrats to him and his connections.

Zenyatta is a GREAT racehorse, and I love her more than ever.  She's my HOY.

06 Nov 2010 8:04 PM
LAZMANNICK

For me the emotional roller coaster is over as I’m sure it is with a few other fans.  Blame ran a hell of a race and congratulations to him, Garrett and Albert Stall.  I haven’t read many of the blogs, but for the naysayers I would suggest you read Saratoga JJ’s 7:28 and Shuvee’s 7:31 blogs.  They both hit the nail on the head.

Horse racing in general won today and showed why it’s the greatest sport in the world.  Goldikova, Uncle Mo and what was certainly a classic BC Classic, reminiscent to Ferdinand’s nose win over Alysheba in 1987, made the race and the day special.  The emotion in the paddock and walking over from the barns and in the crowd before the Classic says it all.  It was electric, filled with excitement and great anticipation.  For Zenyatta to come from so far back is amazing.  She actually reminded me of Life At Ten at the start and to be honest I thought when they were into the clubhouse turn and moving towards the backstretch that she might actually be pulled up.  Then she kicked in a bit, but still had way too much to do when they entered the far turn.  From there to the finish line she showed her class and greatness, the swerving and weaving and waiting to clear much like she did in the stretch in last year’s Classic.  And then the final charge.  Wow, it doesn’t get any better than that.   But Blame showed his class too.  He dug in and was determined and in my opinion is a worthy winner and even better than I thought he was.

HOY is a crap shoot.  For me it doesn’t matter any more.  Zenyatta’s charge was eerily familiar to Personal Ensign’s with the outcome in each case decided by the scantest of margins.  Personal Ensign wasn’t HOY, but that victory, more than any of her others, showed her greatest.  I feel the same way about Zenyatta.  Her loss today was perhaps her greatest race, transcending all of her other accomplishments.  It was fitting that when Garrett was riding back he commented that Zenyatta is the greatest horse he ever saw.

06 Nov 2010 8:16 PM
Livesoutwest

Never has a great race left so many with the wind taken out of their sails.  I feel kinda badly for Blame.  Guess I'll have to stop trashing him since he's beaten me twice now.  

Well, looks like another close vote for HOY again.  I think Goldikova might even get a few votes off her dominant performance, though can't picture her winning it.  They should keep her in the US and send her in the Matriarch, another US win and she might have a chance.

Zenyatta lost nothing in defeat.  While I still think those who were ranking her with the likes of Secretariat were over-hyping her, she proved today she rates as good as any horse of her generation, male or female, dirt or synthetic.  I would love to see her get that 20th and final victory and go out a winner on the international stage of the Dubai World Cup.

And while Blame has to be considered a nose the best horse this year off their one meeting, a case can be made that like Rachel Alexandra last year, Zenyatta ran the better campaign.  If had been Quality Road in front today with his overall record then no, but QR dropped completely out of the conversation today.

Considering she would have had Blame with one more jump, I believe Zenyatta did enough today to merit HOY.  And she better win it, otherwise I'll be forced to admit Jayjay was right, LOL!

06 Nov 2010 8:39 PM
cat thief

Closers saved my day in the big race.  The rail was death all weekend.  Big Drama got out and stayed off the rail, great ride from Eibar.  I didnt like Blame's position (on the rail) down the backside, but he beat the bias and knocked Lucky out of his way then had enough to handle the Horse of the Last 3 yrs (not HOTY).  She's been a little to cute this year and Blame isn't one of those Cali fillies she's been flying by late.  I believe Blame has never been passed in the stretch.

How about that miler QR? Did he finish last?  I think those 4 on the front finished the bottom 4 too.  Speed was not holding well at all.

06 Nov 2010 8:45 PM
GunBow

Maybe we can get that co-HoY this year?

Anyways, Blame ran well like I thought and won as a very, very good horse.  He runs on dirt and synthetic, but he really excels over Churchill.  He's a wonderful horse.

Zenyatta, Zenyatta, Zenyatta.  Honestly, I'm truly heartbroken.  For her to come so close to immortality.  But, losing by a nose is a heck of alot better than running 4th, or 5th, or finishing up the track(umm Quality..) .  Hopefully, her critics can now fully appreciate just how special she is.  Seattle Slew lost nothing in deafeat in the 78' JCGC, and neither did Zenyatta today.  

I really think Randy Moss summed it up well, we just watched the greatest female horse in North American history.  Who can you put up ahead of her? Ruffian?  Sentimentality aside, Ruffian just didn't accomplish what Z has.  Personal Ensign?  How did Personal Ensign do in her attempts in the Classic?  Oh, that's right, she never even tried.  Gallorette? She won less than a third of her races.  Shuvee?  Won less than half her races. Rachel?  She was truly great last year, but one year is simply not enough when discussing greatest careers.

Seriously, we might be waiting forever for a female to win the Classic and then come back and run well enough to lose a photo.  She won on Pro-Ride and came back and ran another bang up performance on dirt.  You can criticize her connections for not being more ambitious, and frankly they deserve some criticism.  But appreciate the horse.  She was back in last in her own race, and was still last coming into the stretch.  

Mike had to change courses, and that was the difference.  But I hope Mikey doesn't feel too bad.  He was obviously devastated.  But Jerry Bailey felt the same thing on Cigar in the 96' Pacific Classic and BC Classic.  Gary Stevens felt it in the 97' Belmont, Kent Desormaux felt it in the 98' Belmont, Stewart Elliot in the 04' Belmont.  In my life, the hollywood ending has been hard to come by; this is not a sport for the weak.

In the end, Blame won the Classic and likely HoY.  Zenyatta might finish her career never having won a HoY, but in this defeat, much more so than in races like the Lady's Secret, she proved her greatness.  In my opinion, she proved herself the greatest female in modern North American history.  

06 Nov 2010 9:02 PM
Matthew W

Eventually some horse was gonna get in front of her and not slow down--Blame did just that--almost surreal, first I didn't think she'd be anywhere near the lead at the finish--then she appears outta no where and she doesn't get up--in some weird way, the way she lost, it almost "adds" to her legend--Zenyatta, the legend, delivered--she also finished second---even in defeat, Zenyatta didn't let anyone down--thanks for that!

06 Nov 2010 9:05 PM
2:24

Awesome race.  Hit the super to break even today.  Also hit  the tri in the mile so you can see how bad the rest of my bets were.  Zenyatta deserves mention as an all time great.  Awesome job by Blame and Gomez.

06 Nov 2010 9:09 PM
skyfire

I think Zenyatta really showed her greatness  today.  That stretch run against really good  horses was breathtaking. For me, given the caliber of the competition, the surface, and no home court advantage for Z, this is what horse racing is about and was the most impressive race of her career.  She doesn't need anyone to defend her in any way, and it doesn't matter how voters vote.  She is one for the ages.

06 Nov 2010 9:19 PM
Linda in Texas

Gun Bow you nailed it in your first post re: The Classic. You are truly a pro.

Congratulations to Blame and The Hancock Family.

Draynay, you DIDN'T nail it in your prediction that MM or QR would beat Zenyatta, wasn't MM 7th and where was QR?? So Zenyatta still crossed the wire before your picks did! Heck, Paddy O'Prado even beat your two for that matter.

Zenyatta came in second by a nose, so she didn't lose,she still placed, did yours???

Goldikova was simply awesome.She crossed the wire with her ears laying flat, she was dead set on winning and she did. I read determination all over her face and her body language.

Uncle Mo did not disappoint and then some. Hip Hip Hurray for The Repole Family. I didn't just start liking him in his last race or the one today. I have been following him right along.

Horses with the most heart today, Dakota Phone,Dangerous Midge and Zenyatta. People with the most heart everyday, Mike Smith.  

Most exciting race for me was The Juvenile Turf with Pluck by the wire first. And Dakota Phone in The Dirt Mile, awesome.

And to Rough Sailing, you truly are a beautiful racehorse, and you gave your all today, may you rest in peace.

And thank you Zenyatta and The Mosses for all the new fans you have brought to the sport of horse

racing. She is still the Queen in my eyes as 1 loss does not make her any less important. She is a very special horse make no mistake.

It will be a long time before another one like her comes along again.  

Safe journeys all.

06 Nov 2010 9:26 PM
Pedigree Shelly

   Zenyatta Should have won that race !!!!!!! I hate to BLAME Mike Smith ! Why was she so so far back ?? When I saw how far back she was I knew it was over !! Who else is there

to BLAME but , maybe BLAME himself ?? I hate to use the word blame but , what other word can I use ???

    PS Sometimes a little humor can heal the heart :)

06 Nov 2010 9:41 PM
MonicaV

Zen was close and still a great horse but my favorite moment of the whole day was Goldikova's groom on the dirt track running and jumping as she flew by on the turf.

06 Nov 2010 9:56 PM
jimbranch

sherpa @ 11:50...always like your posts and couldn't agree with you more. Congrats to Blame but let's give the mare credit for an amazing race...and not argue about it for days!!  

In a bit of irony (and what timing!), just got done watching "100 Years of Claiborne" on HRTV.  What a legacy.

06 Nov 2010 10:08 PM
longwaytomay

To All,

I'm over fifty years old. I was introduced to horse racing when I was a little boy, by my father. I have seen some really good horses in my lifetime. Some that deserved the all too often used label of great. For you youngsters out there, think about who I have seen. I saw Secretariat, Cigar, Affirmed and Alydar, Sunday Silence and Easy Goer. I could go on but I won't. I have seen some really good horses in my lifetime. I don't care that she lost today. Zenyatta is one of the best I have ever seen. Is she the best horse of all time? Don't know the answer to that question, but I do know that she is the best mare that I have ever laid eyes on.

06 Nov 2010 10:17 PM
Pedigree Shelly

        Now that the shock has worn off , Both horses ran their hearts out !!!! Congrats to the winning connections ! To Mike Smith and Zenyatta , Hold your heads up !! That race was nothing to be ashamed of !!

06 Nov 2010 10:20 PM
Ranagulzion

Pedigree Ann,

Saved by the head of Blame!!!(LOL)

What a phenominal racehorse is this Zenyatta.  Truly amazing ...even in defeat.  She ran her race and got beat this time because of the level of the competition, and its no disgrace.  This year I would consider sharing the HOTY award, given that Blame got his butt kicked in the Jockey Club Gold Cup beaten all of 4 1/2 lengths by Haynesfield in his only loss this season.  Contrastingly "Big Z" came up only a head short in this Championship race, although her competition all year (except for the running down of St Trinians) pales in comparison to Blame.  Its a pity that she has to rely upon all the sympathy that she has in the bank to get a share of the HOTY award but the sympathy factor is real and I personally have tons of it for her.  Had it been Quality Road instead of Blame the case would be more difficult to make for her but alas QR ran uncharacteristically dull, regressing terribly as Coldfacts had insightfully observed.

i extend my congratulations to Blame's connections and jockey Garett Gomez who rode brilliantly to deny Mike Smith and the big mare, thus ensuring that the  RANAGULZION name continues.  

MIKE RELVA!! are you there Bro?  You're going to be tired of seeing my "face" ...can't get me outta da race (LOL).  If she had won I'd be gone.  I beat you to it again, friend.  

06 Nov 2010 10:36 PM
GunBow

I do find it ironic that Zenyatta came up on Quality Road so fast that Mike Smith had to slow a little, maybe costing the big girl the race.

The more I watch the race the more I am taken by how unique Zenyatta is.  I've been a fan of hers for a while, but how did she even get into a photo being back so far early?  It was almost bizarre.  My friends told me later they thought she was going to have to be pulled up.  

And the pace really wasn't that fast.  47, 111, the pace was contentious, but it wasn't fast.  Losing a head is tough, but imagine how the Quality Road backers are feeling?  And, I'm sure even some of the most ardent Z supporters would admit that for the first half mile of the Classic, it looked like Z might lay an egg.  But she didn't.  Disappointingly for many, though, it just wasn't quite good enough for the win.

-Blame wins Classic

-Blame wins HoY

-Zenyatta wins best horse of the 2000s. In the end, we'll look back at this being the Zenyatta Years.

-Zenyatta is my #1 ranked female in modern North American history.

06 Nov 2010 10:55 PM
alphaecho

First of all, my hat is off to Blame and those who picked him. He has proven to be a very good horse and deserves HOTY.

Zenyatta should have been beat several times and finally was.

Many said she beat nothing and could only run on plastic.

There you have it, Blame beat a horse who beat nothing who also is female. He also beat two 3yr. olds, LAL & FD. the rest of the field was nowhere.

How does an older male go out of his division to prove how good he is? Or is HOTY just a duplicate older male horse award? I think in the wild, an older male horse rules the roost because he has been endowed by nature/God to be faster and stronger. So why should a young horse or female have to go out of their division to prove how good they are if an older male doesn't. And don't tell me beating up up on younger or females is a great accomplishment. I guess the female and two 3yr. olds that were ahead of the rest of the great older horses in the race are the ones that really accomplished the most.

Yes I am a horse lover, especially ZENYATTA, but Blame is HOTY ( or at least better older horse twice).

06 Nov 2010 10:57 PM
GunBow

A few words on the Cali contingent.  Even I wasn't particularly high on the Cali horses, but if you threw them out, then you didn't hit many of the trifectas or superfectas.

Yesterday Switch and Evening Jewel ran 2-3 in the Female Sprint and Blind Luck was 2nd in the Ladies Classic.  Today, Smiling Tiger and Supreme Summit ran 3rd-4th in the Sprint, Unzip Me ran 3rd in the Turf Sprint(as a Cal-bred filly), The Usual QT ran 3rd in the Turf Mile, Dakota Phone won the Dirt Mile, Champ Pegasus ran 2nd in the Turf, and Zenyatta was famously was 2nd in the Classic.

It wasn't a great day for the Cali horses, but it wasn't bad either.  They certainly did better moving from synthetic to dirt than the New York horses did moving from dirt to Pro-Ride the previous 2 Breeders Cups.

06 Nov 2010 11:09 PM
Leon

This is what I've been trying to explain all year; very often, a horse gains much more respect in a narrow loss, that in any number of wins over suspect competition.

It is really too bad Zen only faced males twice, because the sky would have been the limit with her.

Zenyatta is a horse for the ages, and the grit she showed today against the best field she ever faced, is something I will remember for the rest of my life.

However, another thing I will always ask myself is how ANYONE can manage to lose the HOTY award 3 years in a row with a horse like Zen...

Un--Be---liev--a-ble...  

Congrats to Jason for his Blame pick!

06 Nov 2010 11:41 PM
Tiznowbaby

If possible, I admire her even more after than loss than after the 19 victories.

What a racehorse, what a race.

And well done, too, to Blame.

07 Nov 2010 12:08 AM
Zookeeper

Zenyatta's loss was disappointing but not devastating. She tried her best and came up very short to a darn good horse. What is even more important is that she came back safe and sound. Hats off to Blame and Garrett Gomez for a perfect ride. Zenyatta ran her big heart out and her loss did nothing to diminish my love and admiration for the Great Mare who has delighted me for 3 wonderful years. Thank you Zenyatta and connections for a heart-stopping, amazing ride!

Goldikova 3rd consecutive win was the stuff of legends. What a little bundle of pure energy and brilliance.

Uncle Mo is by far the most exciting 2yr old of the year. Great performance!

There were quite a few surprises also, just to keep things interesting, the most notable by Dakota Phone. Ouch! Some horses, ran definitely below expectation. Wonder what happened with Quality Road who stopped after 3/4 of a mile. Something went wrong there. He's a better horse than that.

Sad beginning to today's BC races. We lost a juvenile after a horrible fall. RIP Rough Sailing. Very sad that you died so young.

There will be much to talk about and dissect in the coming days but we should never forget how dangerous the sport can be. Let's show respect for horses and riders who risk so much. They deserve no less for their courage and heart.

07 Nov 2010 1:04 AM
stevebiscuit

The trip made all the difference. Though Blame will be given an award for having the best year, Zenyatta proved that she is the greatest horse in the world.

07 Nov 2010 1:06 AM
sylvester

Great win by Blame!  He is the deserving HOTY.  I can't believe you Z zealots thought she would win.  Did you really think beating Switch and St Trinians would equate to a BCC victory?  Perhaps if her connections did what they said they were going to do and 'test her greatness' she would have won this race.  They didn't and she lost to the better horse. Blame is 2010 Horse of the Year.  Congratulations to Blame connections! You ran a 2010 HOTY campaign.  Unlike Zenyatta's connections.

07 Nov 2010 1:44 AM
Daunice

Zenyatta just demonstrated how difficult it was for a horse with her running style to win 19 in a row. What a horse.

Too bad it wasn't a DH -both horses deserved it.

Goldi was fabulous.

I was so fortunate to have been at all 3 BCs.

Thanks to all the connections of the horses we love to see run.

07 Nov 2010 1:50 AM
Dr Drunkinbum

Mike Smith

   It's not your fault. It's Terrell Owens fault. As soon as he got into the picture and those photos were plastered all over the place, the victory was cursed. He put the whammy on the win. Still, The Queen ran great, and you gave us 19 fabulous wins and some of the greatest moments in our careers as race fans. Thank you very much Mike.

07 Nov 2010 3:50 AM
Dr Drunkinbum

I don't know about anybody else but next time I hope that Michael Stoute stays home. We don't need anyone coming over here trying to manipulate the track maintenance crew into squirting a little extra water on the track. They know what they are doing, and we don't like cry babies.

07 Nov 2010 3:52 AM
GunBow

Ranagulzion:

I think you should go by the name   Ranagulstiltskin.

Yes, Zenyatta did not win, but you were off in so many ways.  I'm kidding you here because I do respect your opinion, and your rhymes, but Zenyatta didn't lose much in defeat, did she?

Have Haynesfield and Quality Road finished yet?

07 Nov 2010 3:53 AM
Dr Drunkinbum

If I recall correctly, Uncle Mo and Street Sense had almost identical times in the BC Juv at CD. I believe that Street Sense ran it 1/100 of a second faster.

07 Nov 2010 4:10 AM
GunBow

Dee:

I hope you actually did play the tri and box your pix.  You would have hit the Sprint, Mile(turf), and Juvenile.

07 Nov 2010 4:15 AM
GunBow

jon:

You were right about Uncle Mo, winning the Juvenile, but very wrong about Zenyatta.  Maybe she's a bit better than you had thought?

As for Uncle Mo, I do find it somehwat ironic that he is sired by a Cal-bred, Indian Charlie.  Back when Cali had dirt, it was known for fast horses of questionable class.

I saw Indian Charlie in person win the 98' Santa Anita Derby.  He crushed Real Quiet that day, but he didn't quite have the foundation for the Derby and ran 3rd behind Real Quiet.  Sadly, the Derby was Indian Charlie's last race.  But trust me, the talent was there.  Baffert was as high on him as any horse he's had.  I'm glad to see he's passed that talent on to his offspring.

07 Nov 2010 4:24 AM
GunBow

I'm sure many of the Zenyatta fans, like myself, are still hurting from that tough defeat.  But she absolutely did herself proud.  I was already a fan, and even I'm a little surprised she ran so well.

It could have been alot worse.  My second Bredder's Cup was in 1990. 2 horses died in the first race, the Sprint, and then Go For Wand brokedown in the middle of an historic duel with Bayakoa(2 of the greatest females ever, hooking up from the gate).  I was 16 and crushed.  For a second I wanted to turn away from this sport forever.  But I kept the television on, and in the next race a Cali favorite of mine, Itsallgreektome, ran 2nd in the Mile.  I was hooked back in.

This evening, after all the Breeders Cup races, I got back in the figurative saddle and headed out to Los Alamitos for the $1million Los Al Super Derby.  Apollitical Jess(a grandson of the thoroughbred Apollo), won the race by almost 2 lengths(amazing for quarter horses) and won in a time that eclipsed Freaky's track record.

I love the fact that horse racing keeps on going.  You get down, you get back up again.

07 Nov 2010 4:46 AM
Slew

Congratulations to Blame, but Zenyatta still owns my heart, and she ran an awesome race.  Zen is HOY, no matter what Seth Hancock thinks.

And Goldikova...wow!  What a turn of foot!  She always amazes.  What a star!  It was the 3-peat I looked forward to....a speed demon in a plain brown wrapper.  Excellent!  And how about that Gio Ponti..great run!

Big Drama and Uncle Mo proved their grit...superb performances along with the outstanding Pluck.

Hats off to all the competitors...they made this Breeders Cup as exciting as ever!

07 Nov 2010 5:37 AM
OLD TIMER

Nice summary, Jason. I also liked Blame and your picks helped solidify my bets. He LOVES CD. There is something to be said for home field advantage in this game.

Nevertheless what a fantastic race. I could care less who they call HOY, but I have to say my vote is to Blame, with no disrepect to one of the greatest mares ever.

p.s. Quality Road backing all the way up to LAST? Where's the Dray-man?

07 Nov 2010 8:39 AM
Forbidden Apple

Thank you 2:24 for responding to Frank J's corrupt comment's about Point Given. Some people are simply clueless and do not have and eye for talent.

Draynay and Ranagulzion, is Quality Road still a beast and HOY? Blame and Zenyatta beat him soundly, he ran like a 50k claimer yesterday. I looked at the Equibase charts and they do not even give the margain of defeat, more than 30 lengths back. Hey Ranagulzion, Zenyatta has more class than any horse on the planet!

Jon, the connections of Zenyatta are far from reckless, their horse is a running machine. This sport needs more older horses competing at the Grade I level. Horse racing needs horses to race past 3 years old and give the fans something to follow. Zenyatta is the best horse I have seen in my lifetime and her running in the 2010 B.C. Classic was not about greed. I'm pretty sure she could come back next year and do it all over again. We should all be thanking her connections for her 2010 campaign and remember her as a champion.

07 Nov 2010 10:08 AM
Footlick

sylvester- you are just so predictable

07 Nov 2010 12:06 PM
Mike Relva

SYLVESTER AKA DRAYNAY

You don't think Zenyatta gave Blame everything he wanted?

07 Nov 2010 12:07 PM
tcc

Quality Road today.  There are not enough good horses on the planet to keep him off the board Jason.  Zenyatta will get beat by MM today.

draynay 06 Nov 2010 9:31 AM

Is finishing dead last considered off the board?

07 Nov 2010 12:18 PM
Footlick

It is interesting to me that the two times she has run against males were her two worst first quarters in any of her races.  She seemed disoriented in both BCC's at the start.  She may not care for running against males, but her will to win overcomes that.  Whatever people want to think of her, she ran a great race.  There will still be her detractors, just as there were still Rachel's detractors.  I saw a photo of Zenyatta and Blame  just after the wire, I believe, and her ears were up, his were pinned.  I think letting her pull herself up after the wire was not the best thing for them to do in her previous races.  She didn't pass Blame in the gallop out because she was already pulling herself up thinking she had done her job.  She ran a great amazing race.  And Blame had a great trip and dug in when he had to.  He is a bulldog and he dug in when it mattered.  He is a wonderful horse.  Kudos to his connections.  I didn't care about HOY last year and I don't this year.  Watching her fire in the stretch and pass all those horses she wasn't supposed to be able to because she was just a plastic Queen and just coming up just short after another weird trip is all I needed to see.  Naysayers can say what they want.  A great horse, period.

07 Nov 2010 12:22 PM
Karen in Texas

Congratulations to Blame! That was a race for the ages, with Zenyatta giving her all.

I thought Goldikova gave the performance of the day. She is so tiny, yet consistent and business-like. Her groom cheering on the track was a reminder of the emotional extremes these horses inspire!

It was encouraging to see Rogue Romance get up for third in the Juvenile, especially since it was his first start on dirt.

07 Nov 2010 12:23 PM
Meydan Rocks!

QUICK QUIZ:

Who was the 13th President of the United States?

Which horse won the HOY in 1997?

The fact of the matter is more often than not, most HOY winners recede into the far reaches of our memories (unless of course you are a student of the game).

Many years from now, Zenyatta's name will probably be remembered by even the casual fan.

She went down in defeat,..  a true legend!

PS: 13th president of the US: Milard Filmore

      1997 HOY: Favorite Trick (Remember him?)

07 Nov 2010 12:34 PM
LAZMANNICK

The sylvesters of the world can say what they want.  Every time they post that show that they really know nothing about horse racing and just like to shoo their moughts off.

07 Nov 2010 1:10 PM
Zookeeper

Jason - Are you deleting most of the negative comments this morning? I'm a little surprised by how few of them there are. I'm very pleased that most people saw the greatness of Zenyatta and the grit of Blame who would not give up and ran as hard as he could all the way to the wire.

This BC Classic will go down in history as one of the greatest even if it ended up as a two-horse race instead of the 4 or 5 I anticipated. The rest of the field was 3 1/2 to 29 1/4 lengths behind Zen. The only ones still running were Blame, Zen and Fly Down (good effort on that one also).

07 Nov 2010 1:15 PM
LAZMANNICK

Who says that horse racing isn't a game of inches.  But for a couple of inches last year and maybe four this year, Zenyatta would almost certainly have had back-to-back HOY titles.  I know that "Ifs" are purely conjecture but the fact of the matter is, "If" Rachel would have run a couple of inches slower and lost the Woodward, no way would she have been HOY.  It was that race that clinched it for her.  And this year, "If" Zen would have run maybe four inches faster, there is no way she would be denied HOY.  So close and yet so far.

07 Nov 2010 1:16 PM
Forbidden Apple

Is it possible that Zenyatta could be bred to Blame? Some people are saying that Blame is kind of an average horse. I see him as a champion on the track and one who has great potential as a stallion. This was the first race in my lifetime when I made a good score, but still ended up with tears in my eyes. Mike Smith is a HOF jockey and deserves much respect for all 20 of his rides on the great Zenyatta.

Sylvester,

Zenyatta was in front just past the wire and was the best horse in the race. If she won you would still be knocking her when she is a proud champion. Maybe you should go watch some nascar and open a can of Keystone light, you are classless.

Amen Dr. Drunkinbum, the scratch of Workforce was silly to me. But the trainer must know what is best for his horse. I don't think a dirt horse would scratch out of a $3 million race because the track was to fast.

07 Nov 2010 1:16 PM
Doc Bar

2010 American HOY: Blame

2010 Horse of the World: Goldikova!

Where Zenyatta failed, Goldikova showed the world how it is done!  What an ambitious campaign, racing (and winning) in open company in two continents.  Those connections sure don't back down from a challenge.

07 Nov 2010 1:58 PM
Mike Relva

RANAGULZION

Yes,you beat me. But,what happened to QR? Remember him? If you know half as much regarding racing as you think, can't say she ran a bad race,coming from way off and NEARLY running him down! Maybe he will be featured on 60 Minutes. lol

07 Nov 2010 2:04 PM
Ranagulzion

GUNBOW & FORBIDDEN APPLE,

Don't you agree that Horseracing is not only the Sport of kings but the King of Sports?  What a great festival of racing we just had.  You know, I got a great kick out of the rough and tumble of blog arguments, touting winners and defending my selections.  Even laying my 'famous' moniker on the line in response to Mike Relva's challenge, turned out to be quite a nail-biting thriller.

Quality Road evidently peaked in the Donn and began to train-off since then (an insight alluded to by Coldfacts), running no race at all in the Classic.  I have to admit that I kind of saw the regression in his form in the Whitney and Woodward but was really hoping that Todd P could freshen him up for him to produce his A-race in the BCC.  I was embarassingly wrong and Zenyatta almost made me pay.  Thanks to Blame, we are here to blog another day (LOL).  

GunBow, I might have bombed out in the classic but I did forcast Awesome Feather in the Juvenile Fillies, Big Drama in the Sprint and the trifecta in the Juvenile;Uncle Mo, Boys at Toscanova and Rogue Romance.

How many winners did you pick Forbidden Apple ?(LOL).

07 Nov 2010 2:30 PM
LAZMANNICK

Sylvester

It's intersting to note that when Gomez was riding Blame back to the winners cirlce, on his own and without even being asked, he said that Zenyatta is the best horse he's ever seen.

07 Nov 2010 2:39 PM
Pedigree Ann

Sorry to disagree, folks, but the best horse in the world ran last Tuesday, not Saturday. His name is So You Think, and since he began his 2010/11 campaign in Australia on 28August, he has won OPEN 4 G1s, 1 G2, from 7f to 10f, and run a brave third in the 2-mile Melbourne Cup, when his jock may have moved too soon. And far be it from me to question the legendary Bart Cummings, but I think he would have been better off having a 12f run before trying 16f.

07 Nov 2010 3:08 PM
stevebiscuit

If there was an award for the best horse in the world, Zenyatta would have won it from 2008-2010. Blame had everything go his way from the paddock to the finish line. The fans were so loud in the paddock that Zenyatta became extremely anxious, began sweating profusely and expending great amounts of energy. Plus, Blame's a 4 year old colt in his prime, running on his home track, beating a 6 year old mare who had a trip that made victory impossible, yet she still almost won. Not to mention that Blame completely emptied the tank to win, while Zenyatta, aside from being caked in mud, looked as if she hadn't even run. Once again, we failed to see Zenyatta run her best race.  Zenyatta is the best horse in the world. Blame will only be remembered in the light as Sham, Onion, Exceller, and even Upset. Had Zenyatta finished up the track like Azeri in her only start against males, I might have bought into the notion that Zenyatta is a synthetic specialist who can't run with the best males in the world on dirt. After yesterday, I believe she's the best horse on either surface. You take the best horses in history and given them the same trip Zenyatta had and I guarantee they would have finished 4th at best. Zenyatta's ability to overcome impossible situations has stamped her as not only the greatest female racehorse of all time, but arguably among the top 10 of all time.

07 Nov 2010 3:35 PM
GunBow

Monica V:

You are so right about the image of Goldikova's groom running with her down the stretch.  That was awesome!  How special.  It shows how much those around these horses love them.

07 Nov 2010 4:43 PM
Doc Bar

Hey Apple,

If you were such a Zenyatta fan you would know M.Smith rode her for 17 races, not 20.  Nice try though, this Keystone's for you!

07 Nov 2010 5:49 PM
Footlick

Pedigree Ann- I love So You Think, but there are many in the world who are just as good I believe.  He is a brilliant animal though.  Absolute class.

07 Nov 2010 6:44 PM
Carlos in Cali

What a Mare.The best in our generation and one of the best ever, period.

Too bad it took her epic last battle in order for her detractors to appreciate her greatness.Silence is Golden...amen to that!

07 Nov 2010 6:48 PM
Mike Relva

DOC BAR

I've got news for you,Zenyatta didn't back down yesterday,either. You really think Blame would've won if he had substained half as bad a trip as her? He had everything go his way(as his trainer stated) and still almost got beat.

07 Nov 2010 6:52 PM
Mike Relva

FORBIDDEN APPLE

You nailed it totally. I think trolls like SLYVESTER probably drink Pabst. lol

07 Nov 2010 6:57 PM
Mike Relva

TCC

Didn't you hear? DRAYNAY thinks QR WON YESTERDAY. lol

07 Nov 2010 6:59 PM
Footlick

Doc Bar- the world is a bigger place than Europe and America.  There are horses in Japan, Hong Kong and Australia who just might prove you wrong.

07 Nov 2010 7:44 PM
Draynay

Thank you Sir Barton for the tickets and a great time.  Jason, great call on Blame.  You said it all year he was the best horse and you were right.  He is rightfully the 2010 HOY.  It's easy to see why Rachel is the 2009 HOY beating G1 males on dirt is the toughest thing you can do in racing and Zenyatta just wasn't good enough. She ran a good race but could never pass Blame.  Not even 50 yards past the wire could she pass him.  Zenyatta is a very nice horse but a poly specialist from California that came to play with the big boys and lost.  She never won East of the Mississippi and staying in California was probably best for her.  Now that Quality Road and Blame are gone maybe Zenyatta can come back again and try to take on what is remaining of the best males running?  Mr. Moss there is no reason to retire her now that she has lost.  How about racing her around the country for all to enjoy?  Where does Zenyatta rank all time?  Right behind Azeri.

07 Nov 2010 8:03 PM
Livesoutwest

Most unpleasant surprise yesterday was Dangerous Midge.  This English allowance horse clobbered multiple graded stakes winners.  He really didn't figure at all on class.  Geez, how overrated is Behkabad?

07 Nov 2010 8:17 PM
skyfire

Two of the best named horses ever:  Upset and Blame.

07 Nov 2010 8:28 PM
LAZMANNICK

Draynay

You're pathetic.  You wouldn't recognize a top horse if you saw one and for sure you've never cheered for one.  It seems to me that Zenyatta ran the last quarter in 24 seconds to Blame's 25 seconds. She also ran an obstacle course and Blame had a clean trip.  Blame's jockey even said that Zenyatta is the best horse he ever saw (I wonder why he didn't say Rachel).  Of course, Blame wasn't going all out.  Gomez knew where the wire was and timed the finish just right.  You know where whis win puts Blame?  Right along side Upset, Dark Star, Onion and Prove out.  You know where Zenyatta is?  Up way to far to even see.....in other words way over your head.

07 Nov 2010 9:22 PM
Mike Relva

DRAYNAY

I'm not even responding to your last comments.

07 Nov 2010 9:51 PM
tim

Draynay, seriously...you are comparing a glorified miler like that overrated rachel who never entered the championship distance of 10 furlongs to Zenyatta? hahahahaha...heck Blame was lucky to win that race...he got a perfect ride from Garrett and was life and death to hold of the mare who was what 15-20 lengths behind at the start...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

07 Nov 2010 9:56 PM
Draynay

Mike, seems Quality Road had a tough time with the footing and never got on track.  But he did win several G1 races against males in open company on dirt this year.  Zenyatta has never done it in her entire career. Goldikova is the best mare I have ever seen.  She takes on the best males and makes them look average.  She blew away Gio like he was standing still.  Goldikova is the Queen of racing and Blame is your 2010 HOY.

07 Nov 2010 10:03 PM
Footlick

Bekhabad is not overrated.  Just ran a flat race.  It happens with some Europeans shipping here.  And contrary to what was said, Bekhabad ran his strongest races on soft going.  I didn't think the turf would favor him at all.  Dangerous Midge was being touted all over the place.

07 Nov 2010 10:38 PM
Footlick

Dray- come back when you learn something

07 Nov 2010 10:39 PM
Footlick

By the way, Dray- beating males at 9 furlongs on the dirt is not the toughest thing for a female to do.  Many have done that.  Beating them at 10 furlongs is alot more daunting and difficult.  Research before you post.

This is the last time I will ever address your arrogance, but as usual you have no clue about anything.

07 Nov 2010 10:42 PM
DJ

I know who WON'T be HOY- Quality Road LOL

07 Nov 2010 10:48 PM
GunBow

Good try Draynay.  You are quite convincing.

07 Nov 2010 10:55 PM
jayjay

The ride is over but it will linger for awhile.  It was a tough loss and unlike most, it's personally hard for me to take that loss.  I don't blame Mike for his ride, I just wished they were closer but that's horse racing.  There was no doubt that she was the best horse in that race.  Blame was in full stride pulling away from LAL and the field, and without Zenyatta there, the talk would be Blame annihilating the field.  Seeing her come roaring down the stretch and after she had to go around the tiring horses and lose by that margin, it was just devastating for me.  I envisioned the race with her being much much much closer and making a very early move to put away the speedballs and drawing away from Blame and Fly Down.

Every commentator, trainer, owner and jockey I saw interviewed on TVG says she's one of the all time greats, I don't think anyone can or should argue about that, she's proven it on dirt in a championship race against the best "dirt" horses (according to most east coast fans and writers) that showed up and she beat them all going away except for one...Blame.  Congrats to Blame's connections and to all who picked him.  I certainly hope that she retires after this year but for selfish reasons, I do want to see her run a few more races if not just to see her run.  I think she'll excel in the Dubai Classic, except I don't know how she'll fare with flying that long of a trip.  I just...have...to let...go and watch her enjoy her new career.  THANK YOU Zenyatta and Team Z, it has been a great run.  I will follow your new career and hope that you bring us babies that gives us the same thrills you did.

Again, we see another "beast" retiring to stud after a championship year.  Blame didn't really have a career except for this year and we're losing him to stud. I was hoping Blame would run again next year but it seems that breeding fees means more to the owners.

Goldikova is not a horse, she's an anomaly.  She's just a beast.

Ranagulzion : While I admire your loyalty to your horse, I don't think you can argue anymore that QR is a pure miler.  He would have had a G1 BC win if they had run him in the Dirt Mile, which would be a great win and it's a lot better than finishing last.  He folded after 6F, I think Haynesfield and the Japanese horse lasted more than he did and was still running after 6F.  There's a reason you have to pay attention to the trainer's way of doing things.  I knew from how Todd has handling him that he too don't believe he can get the distance but he was trying everything from long rest to easy fields to try and get him to that distance, the horse can't get it, they missed a great opportunity to give him a BC win.  With him folding against Haynesfield, the Whitney didn't seem like a tough race that I thought it was.  I never thought QR was a beast, not even a top competition but I guess I need to learn more about horse racing as Jason says.

Monarchos Matt : Thanks, yes I did and things were going so well and having a great day until the finish line of the Classic.  I posted my picks the night before, I try to stick to my picks and not change them, if anything, I add to it depending on the odds and watching the parade.  As for the Classic, I've always said it's between Zen and Blame but I was really high on Fly Down hitting the board as I believe he's a genuine classic distance horse, that's why I listed him to come in 2nd to Zenyatta.

Dr. Drunkinbum :  Thanks, it was a bittersweet hit for me, it still stings losing that much after what she did.  She was the best horse in that race.  I don't think anyone can argue about that.  Gomez is a quality rider, he's very smart.  His comments during the interview that he asked Blame for some but saved a little bit to get away from LAL shows his intelligence and respect for Zenyatta, he knew he would need that little bit he saved, and he was dead on.  He emptied that tank to hold her off, and he really needed it.

Laz : Nice post @ 1:16PM, while I don't care about HOTY, this is a game of inches and it's a great thrill when it goes your way, and pretty devastating if it doesn't.  

Meydan Rocks @ 12:34PM post : I totally agree, Zenyatta has transcended HOTY honors, it's meant for horses who did really well for the year.  Zenyatta has accomplished something that no horse will be able to duplicate in our lifetime.  I guarantee you that.  Not only because it's pretty much an impossible feat to duplicate but that most owners are not willing to run their horses after a few G1 wins.  The emphasis for breeding money is one of the reasons this sport is on a decline.  The horses don't have any durability anymore, everyone is after one or two prestigious G1s then retires them.

GunBow : Great point about the California "plastic" horses, it's more likely the reason not a lot of east coast bloggers and writers hit any of the exotics.  I enjoyed Dakota Phone's win a lot, I had a $10 win on him as well as the $1 exacta and trifecta.  I had a gut feeling that he would be the bomb on Saturday, looking at the field, I knew a closer had a good chance of nipping them at the wire.  I would take being lucky over having the "expert" handicapper title anytime (Like Draynay LOL).

I'm looking forward to following Fly Down, Jaycito and Blind Luck next year.  While Uncle Mo showed he's a top notch horse and will probably win most of his races next year, I think Jaycito will have a good transition to his 3 yr old.  I see him winning 2 of 3 TC races next year.  Fly Down will dominate the Older Male races next year (the racing gods owe it to Zito after this year) and Blind Luck, if she continues racing will again dominate next year.

07 Nov 2010 11:45 PM
Livesoutwest

Stupidest career moves:

David Caruso leaving NYPD Blue to pursue his film career.

Ernest "Boom" Carter leaving Springsteen's E-Street Band before the release of Born To Run to join his friend's jazz combo.

David Flores not going to Oaklawn with Zenyatta for the Apple Blossom, choosing instead to ride the immortal El Gato Malo in the Santa Anita Derby the same day.

07 Nov 2010 11:52 PM
Dee

Gunbow-

I forgot if you said you were betting on any of the races or not, if you did how did you fair? I had the Juvenille and Sprint trifectas but I didn't get to bet on the sprint. Then just missed on the others, 2 out of 3 and just not much luck. Before I made my trifectas I read a lot of the comments here and gave much considration to your comment about certain horses in the fields. I added The Usual QT to my list of horses to consider but with so many different trifectas I had to narrow it down and didn't have him in my goldikova/gio ponti boxes; I thought Proviso or Court Vision might be up there. I was most confident about my sprint trifectas... Big Drama ran a fantastic race, and I was impressed with Smiling Tiger's last race. I went with the live longshot in Hamazing Destinty and the payout would have been about $1200, BUT... I thought online betting was available in my area, so I thought I would have no problem going over my bets and watching the horses and seeing how the track plays from the tv. No such luck, no online betting available and no time before the sprint to get to the track. After watching my trifecta cross under the wire I ran to put the bets on the next races just in time to see Uncle Mo blow the field away and I at least got that trifecta. I did bet on Dangerous Midge after all the comments here backing him up. Didn't see Dakota Phone or Champ Pegasus in the top, no luck with vinyard haven, musket man, or tizway hitting the board, and certainly under estimated the gritty Fly Down. His Jim Dandy had me thinking he was questionable to close in this kind of field. What a performance to outnose Lucky who I had boxed with zenyatta and blame. Poor Quality Road, he's just got such delicate feet- he runs like heck when he has just the right surface, not too wet, not too cuppy! At least I was right in keeping him out of the bets.

Every time I bet on Big Drama I never get the trifecta. In the Swale I had the exact order of finish that I saw as Big Drama, This Ones for Phil, and Custom for Carlos but the DQ was heartbreaking! Of course not as heartbreaking as the Zenyatta loss.  The racing gods can be so cruel. But what a mare and I don't see her as any less perfect- she was at Blame in a few jumps. I'd like to think she'd have won if she had gotten the jump on him, started her run before he got going. I felt terrible for her, to not do her parade and dance at the end, and for Mike Smith who blames himself and still rode a great race... they deserved it, but so did Blame. What a horse, sticking his head out so straight- if only Zenyatta lowered her head and straightened out her neck, maybe the photo would have been closer. Mike Smith has always been my sentimental favorite jockey, not only because he's a genuine guy but he's ridden so many of my favorite horses over the years, to mention just a few of the greats- Dehere, Holy Bull, 2x mile winner Lure, Prarie Bayou. In the 23 years of horse racing and all the horses I've seen since, none have been like Zenyatta. I wish everyone saw her greatness. I wish she would have raced in NY so I could have seen her in person. Too bad she didn't run against males and on dirt this year, and too bad she didn't come to other racetracks for the fans to see her. I'm still happy with how it was, whatever the path wound up being, her sound and in top shape and happy for 3 straight years. 19 for 20 and no horse of the year 3 times in a row sounds strange to me, but I don't see Zenyatta getting enough sympathy to get the vote over Blame.

08 Nov 2010 12:17 AM
Dee

I was so sure Life at Ten was going to be scratched, and then they loaded her right into the gate. Then Saturday, after the first race and then Atta Boy Roy right behind the cameras, I was quite worried around the first turn that Zenyatta had gotten hurt when she was squeezed at the start. She was just so far back around the first turn. How much farther during the race did she run than Blame?

alphaecho-

You make some good points but I have to disagree with just one thing- "I think in the wild, an older male horse rules the roost because he has been endowed by nature/God to be faster and stronger."

Actually... From Wikipedia, horse behavior- "Contrary to traditional portrayals of the herd stallion as the "ruler" of a "harem" of females, the actual leader of a wild or feral herd is the alpha or dominant mare, commonly known as the "boss mare" or "lead mare." She is usually one of the more mature animals, responsible for the overall safety of the herd, familiar with the terrain and resources available. She takes the lead when the herd travels, determines the best route, when to move from one place to another, and claims the right to drink first from watering holes and stake out the best location for grazing...When the herd travels, the stallion brings up the rear, watching for predators and driving straggling herd members on, keeping the group together... however, most of the time, the stallion is fairly relaxed, spending much of his time "guarding" the herd not by herding the mares around, but by scent-marking manure piles and urination spots in order to make clear his position as herd stallion... He is exposed to more risks than any other herd member and can be replaced by a stronger successor at any time."

So... in the wild, no jockey's and their decisions impacting the outcome... Zenyatta's in the lead, the queen, running the heard, and Blame's bringing up the rear of the herd, fighting, mating, and apparently just scent marking, able to be replaced easily. And still there'd be doubters!

08 Nov 2010 12:59 AM
SMA

As we saw yesterday, the Breeders Cup is at its best on a dirt track where owners decide to keep their horses in training for the good of the game. We can debate Zenyatta's merits until we're blue in the face (though how you can come away from that not considering her one of the best in recent memory escapes me), but the real story of yesterday in my mind was the fact that the Mosses selflessly kept her in training for everyone to enjoy. Look at how much better this game is when the stars stick around. Look at how exciting it is when the fields aren't watered down because an owner who is already filthy rich decides to hijack a racing career (and in turn harm the sport) in favor of stud fees.

Imagine if we'd had Afleet Alex vs. Bernardini in 06, or Bernardini vs. Curlin and Street Sense in 07, or Curlin against Zenyatta and Blame yesterday. It's not my investment, so it's easy for me to say this, but I really hope that keeping Zenyatta in training will inspire more owners to keep their star horses around. When they do it, everyone wins.

SMA

08 Nov 2010 1:50 AM
Dr Drunkinbum

I just watched The Classic replay. There was nothing at all wrong with Mike Smith's ride. It was a very good ride and he shouldn't blame himself(excuse the pun). They just got beat by another great horse. It happens. Blame was powerful also and got the jump. It's not like he was just hanging on, he was driving to and through the wire. There is no guarantee that Zenyatta would have won even if she started her run earlier. Blame might have responded to the challenge. Be at peace Mike. It was a horse race. Hail to the Queen, and to the new King.

08 Nov 2010 2:15 AM
stevebiscuit

Draynay, Zenyatta had a trip that made victory impossible, and yet she still almost won against a colt at his home track. Blame may get Horse of the Year, but Zenyatta was the greatest horse to run this year. Comparing her to Rachel is a joke. Though Zenyatta lost, the males that finished behind her were 10 times the horses Rachel faced. After seeing her ability to overcome, I believe that if you put her in a race with any horse in history and she got the same trip she got in last year's Classic, she would win. She is perhaps the greatest horse we will ever see. Oh, and didn't your pick, Quality Road, just lose to Zenyatta by 29 lengths? That's a bit more impressive than beating a bunch of weak 3 year old fillies by 20 1/4, wouldn't you say?

08 Nov 2010 3:20 AM
Sir Barton

Dray,

You're welcome on the tickets. I enjoyed our two days at the BC. Some really great races. Zenyatta was gallant in defeat, but Blame held on and deserves his credit.

I understood the crowd giving a lot of love to Zen as they came back, but they really dogged it on Blame, which I thought showed a lack of class. He did what he was put in the race to do.

She ran a great race, but he won. 'Nuff said. The crowd needed to give Blame his due, and they didn't. That's not right.

This was a great BC. I'm looking forward to next year, and hoping I can come out ahead. I did this year, which made my second consecutive winning BC.

08 Nov 2010 5:23 AM
Sir Barton

Livesouthwest,

Midge also had a couple of open length wins (six and eight lengths) over a gf (good/firm) course in Europe. That's why I played him.

Granted they weren't high level races, but he showed an afinity for our type of course conditions.

That made him worth a play IMO.

08 Nov 2010 5:29 AM
Tim

First of all the biggest lock was Uncle Mo and anyone who picked against him or had any doubts about him needs to stop betting, not that anyone on these blogs bets everyday anyway. Also Uncle Mo doesn't have 2 different styles of running. In each of his first 2 starts he rated on the lead and he works behind horses. He also is bred for distance all around so whoever said he's a middle distance colt doesn't know his pedigree or for that matter even seen him run. One more thing Dakota Phone in the Oaklawn went to the lead because Jery wanted to experiment with him. With a gelding you can play around with major stakes races because there are plenty more races left on the calender and a last place finish doesn't mean anything because he can't be bread.

08 Nov 2010 6:03 AM
skyfire

Mike Smith in TDN:  "She just wasn't leveling out like I wanted to : Smith said. "There was the dirt, of course, hitting in her face--a lot of it. She just wasn't used to that part, it just left her with too much to do."

I can't help but believe that if Shirreffs/Moss had sent Z.  to Saratoga for a dirt race such as the Personal Ensign, etc.,  Z would be undefeated.

Training job of the year:  Freddie Head:  Goldikova

Owners/Sportsmen of the year:  the Wertheimers who own Goldi, and let us enjoy her

08 Nov 2010 8:02 AM
gw_bushwacker

As usual draynay was completely wrong about Zenyatta and Quality Road his "lock" for the Classic who finished dead last beating nobody. The draynay curse lives on.

"My Borel angle worked to a charm today.  Everyone at our table did it too AND we all did a shot when Borel won a race.  We all put 50 on him to win every race"

draynay 01 May 2010 8:35 PM

How did the "Borel Angle" work for you this time draynay? At 50 bucks a pop you lost alot of money doing what you say you always do at Churchill. The onlt thing Borel won was a hefty fine for a classless act. They should have ejected him from the remainder of the Breeders Cup and an additional year for his childish behavior in front of millions. What a black eye on the sport.

draynay claimed repeatedly that Zenyatta would never beat a single male on dirt and would not hit the board in the Classic. She came within a foot of taking them all down and was the only horse in the race who closed on every single competitor. These weren't average males like RA beat last year. Even draynay said all year that he believed QR was the best out there over RA and look where he finished. Zenyatta took on the best the year had to offer two years in a row , something RA never did once. It took the HOY to beat Zenyatta the only time she was beaten in her life. No other horse in history can make that claim. What a valiant effort by a true Champion. The wire just came 1-2 strides too early, she had him measured. Even Mike Smith had the courage to admit that it was him who got her beat. A real act of class in a Breeders Cup where some Jocks showed no class at all.

draynay once again you were completely exposed to be a terrible Handicapper and a childish fool. Time to move on.  

08 Nov 2010 8:30 AM
Billy's Empire

Wow, what a day of racing on Saturday. I am still shocked that almost everyone that posted above was going against Goldi and Uncle Mo. I had the winner of half of the races this weekend, so I am in high spirits Monday morning. Jason, you need to get a tattoo like Jessie James has on his hand, PAY UP SUCKERS!!

What caught me as very suprising was that Dangerous Midge went off at almost identical odds as Red Rocks. Same trainer in Meehan, same Track, I think the post was alomst the same, 8 or 9, and he wins easy. I had that double and I singled Blame in the Classic. Had the tri and exacta of the Turf and the Mile, and hammered Blame to win. What an awesome race...

08 Nov 2010 8:39 AM
nay nugget

Now that Quality Road and Blame are gone maybe Zenyatta can come back again and try to take on what is remaining of the best males running?

Draynay 07 Nov 2010 8:03 PM

Quality Road? You mean the G1 winning male that Zenyatta totally thrashed on dirt? The same horse you said was a lock to win the Classic and finished dead last? The same horse who you touted all year as the best including RA? Zenyatta was clearly better than QR and would have no trouble beating that one time and time again. You are clearly dilusional. Zenyatta came within a half head of defeating the 2010 HOY by simply running out of room and you still spew your garbage? Give it a rest, You have been wrong about her all along and are too small to admit it. What horse is next on your list to ridicule? A grown man making fun of and disparging a horse. What a legacy you are leaving. Go away for good.  

My pick as the favorite to have the worst 2 days of handicapping is draynay. easiest pick i have ever had.

nay nugget 29 Oct 2010 3:27 PM

Was I right or was I right on? QR to win and he finished last, BAT to win he got whipped. LAL to bet big on to hit the board (he finished out of the show pool) and a $100 exacta box with QR. Those are the "big winners" drayanay chose. Hope you kept some change for the dollar menu at McDonald's so you could eat.

08 Nov 2010 10:48 AM
Slew

I wondered about the scratch of Workforce until the commentators mentioned that John Gosden felt the turf was firm on the bottom but loose on top.  And then Rough Sailing slipped on that turn, and life was over for him.  I now have no doubts that scratching Workforce proved to be a wise decision after all.  Hindsight came at a terrible price. (though I really did miss seeing him run.)

08 Nov 2010 11:24 AM
2:24

Draynay, didn't care much for your last post.  Shows very little class.  Especially after she dusted your horse (and my pick to win) Quality Road.

Obviously, you could argue about Zenyatta's standing among all time fillies/mares and there would be a difference of opinion.  I would personally rank her on top of all other fillies and mares, and as you know I have questioned her campaign throughout the year.  I think she gained status in the BC Classic this year and really had a chance to win against a great field.  I would have no problem arguing that she is among the top 15 or 20 North American based horses of all time.  

08 Nov 2010 11:47 AM
Mike Relva

DRAYNAY

You have ZERO CREDITABILITY! Not a shred! What happened to QR being a lock? Do you ever realize that people like Baffert,Ellis,Gomez,etc would laugh you out of the room if they heard the "nutjob" statements you still continue to make regarding Zenyatta?

08 Nov 2010 1:12 PM
In aint easy being good!

I have to admit I was wrong about Zenyatta and she should be HOY I thought she would get trounced and it was def. a disappointing day for all you Z fans. Blame is a grinder and gets no respect! G Gomez was on fire the last 2 days. Fly Down will be a great 4 year old and think he will be a force next year. How about Uncle mo though that was impressive I think Uncle Mo could of went another lap. Jayico what a joek that was!

08 Nov 2010 2:39 PM
Mike Relva

DRAYNAY

You also stated last week Zenyatta wouldn't beat LAL,remember? What's your excuse with him? I thought you stated a million times RA is the greatest mare,now it's Goldie. You've always been loyal,haven't you? lol Give me a break,Zenyatta beat everyone in that race and almost beat Blame. You didn't even like Blame. Always surrounding yourself with the next flavor,right?

08 Nov 2010 3:16 PM
Zen's Auntie

On another note

Im really glad to see Mine that Bird retired - I think he would make a lovely hunter prospect sound and all maybe some teenage girl could ride and love on him.

Anyway I hope he enjoys retirement he deserves it.  

08 Nov 2010 5:00 PM
Dr Drunkinbum

Slew

  The track maintenance was exactly as it should be, ten minutes water a night, until Friday night when they put extra water on the turf surface beyond the ten minutes. The drains were closed so the surface was too slippery early on Saturday, and you know what happened to Rough Sailing. I don't know if the extra water was because of Workforce's connections complaints or not, who then scratched their own horse.

08 Nov 2010 5:04 PM
Forbidden Apple

Doc Bar,

I never claimed to be the biggest Zenyatta fan on the planet. I realize that Mike Smith only rode her 17 times, my mistake. Thank you for the proofreading and enjoy your Keystone light.

Ranagulzion,

The real question is how many winners did I bet on? In this game you only need one good winner on any given day. I don't bet every race that comes along, but I did make a good score betting Blame to win. I also made a nice score playing him in the exacta over Zenyatta. Thank you for all of the laughs this year involving Quality Road and Eskendereya. You are the one who was silly enough to be claiming Eskendereya a triple crown winner and Quality Road HOY in March.

08 Nov 2010 7:11 PM
jayjay

Draynay doesn't have any choice folks, he has to jump on Goldi and Blame's wagons.  QR is still running and he's still waiting for him to hit the board.  When QR gets there (hopefully before January), he'll jump back on his wagon and proclaim him the 2010 HOTY.  I just wish he'd take his medication before he posts though.  The boy is an excellent handicapper after the race LOL.

See you guys in a week!  I'm off to enjoy my winnings and recover from this weekend.

08 Nov 2010 10:06 PM
thirteen

Gomez has not only defeated zenyatta but BOb Baffets LAL. He has slapped him on his face Bob should watch the replays and take a good look that not only blame has defeated LAL - But Gomez is the one who defeated LAL.....Six months of Patience proved that u the best GG

08 Nov 2010 10:26 PM
Dr Drunkinbum

I just saw video of Northern Dancer just before he was retired from stud. He had muscles like I've never seen before even in old age. Isn't he the greatest sire? No wonder.

09 Nov 2010 1:35 AM
Dr Drunkinbum

Slew

  Numerous horses slipped on the turf. Numerous jockeys said their horse had trouble on Saturday. There are no reports that I know of where that was happening on Friday. Why would they move away from their normal routine that was working, and give extra water on Friday night? How much extra I don't know. I don't know if they bowed to Euro pressure or not. It would be nice to hear an explanation as to why the routine all of a sudden changed when the weather didn't. It's not only about loss of life, which is a tragedy but about bettors expecting a safe, firm surface.

09 Nov 2010 1:49 AM
OLD TIMER

I once implied that perhaps Draynay and Andy Beyer were one and the same. I now see that I was wrong. At least Andy had the class to write an honest and decent article in DRF about Zenyatta after the BCC and give credit where credit is due.

As I noted earlier, I bet on Blame because with him 5 to 1 and Zenyatta even money (4 to 5 up until the last seconds), there was no question where the value was.

However I couldn't care less who they give the HOY. It was one of the best Classics ever and both horses were fantastic.

Oh, and Quality Road and Boys at Toscanova were mortal locks... yeah right.

09 Nov 2010 12:20 PM
ruffianruns

Zenyatta is THE Horse of the Year.

09 Nov 2010 2:09 PM

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