Paul Reddam Guest Blog

The following guest blog was written by I’ll Have Another’s owner Paul Reddam in response to some of the concerns of the public regarding the colt’s injury and retirement. On a personal note, Reddam has always been extremely conscientious when it comes to the public’s feelings and the passion they exhibit when it comes to horses and racing and he appreciates all the emotion that has been invested in I’ll Have Another and the fans’ support throughout the Triple Crown.

After reading the article “I Won’t Have Another,” and reading some of the reaction to it, I would like to fill in a few blanks that have only amplified some racing fans’ feelings of frustration and forlorn with the outcome of the Triple Crown and the subsequent sale of I’ll Have Another.  The purpose here is not to persuade people that what was done was correct, but rather to provide more information, so that emotions may have closure.  I would expect that after reading this, there will still be fans who are cynical about the connections, think that this is a bunch of lies, what have you, but hey, that’s what makes racing so fun and challenging, isn’t it?  Racing fans, especially the gamblers, are very opinionated and they will look at the same information and come to very different conclusions – hence, the toteboard.

Nevertheless, I’ll put it out there and let the chips fall wherever they land.

Having to scratch IHA the day before the Belmont was a complete shock.  When he came off the track on Thursday, I was walking back to the barn with Doug (O’Neill) and he was so happy with how he had trained he said to me, “He can’t lose.”  I had no inkling how ironic this prediction would turn out to be.  A couple of hours later we had lunch and decided that the horse was  fit and  sound, so there was no need to doing anything strenuous on Friday and it was decided to give him an easy day.  Doug said he would track him at 5:30 on Friday to avoid the hoopla and for me to give a call after that. 

On Friday morning I called him about 6:45 and he said there were a lot of people around and could I call back in a little while. There was something odd in his voice, but I put it down to the stress of the situation. I reached him at about 9 o’clock and he said that IHA had some heat in his front leg and a little bit of swelling. He speculated that he had perhaps banged it and thought/hoped it was nothing.  He wasn’t sure whether he wanted to call the vet, as this would bring with it a media circus since the horse was in the same barn as the other Belmont participants.  The horse demonstrated no lameness and thus it was a tough call. 

Finally we decided that the vet should come and do a scan and if the results showed nothing, everything would ultimately be fine, and how could he be blamed for being extra cautious about our Triple Crown horse.  Doug said he would call back in an hour. The first words in the call were, “No bueno.” My heart sank. The scan showed that IHA had a tiny tear in his tendon. Think of it like a tear in the seam of pair of pants. You could keep wearing the pants, and maybe the first time or two, the pants would hold, but eventually they would rip. Knowing this could happen, there was no choice but to scratch. 

How about the decision to retire him that seemed from the outside to be made so hastily?  This was very painful.  I was in the lobby of the hotel when I got this news. To explain this, I have to get a little personal.  When I hung up the phone I sat in a chair stunned and trying not to cry. My little brother appeared, took one look at me, and asked me if our dad had died.  I told my wife that I just wanted to get on a plane and go home immediately. However, that is not how people I admire would have behaved, people like the Mosses, Bob Baffert, and Mike Smith, all of whom have conducted themselves with great dignity under the harsh light of our business. 

I had been riding on the coattails of this magnificent horse, always the underdog, who was one day away from becoming the true people’s champion.  It was just an accident that I ended up his owner and in truth I had very little to do with his progression from a longshot bomb in the Lewis to odds-on to win the Triple Crown. He gave me an experience that I would have never dreamed possible, this unbelievable horse with the athleticism, mind, and heart of a creature that few of us ever have touch us face to face. 

Thus the decision to retire IHA was made in less than a minute, as I knew as soon as I heard the word “tear” what the right and dignified thing to do was. (The term tendonitis was a word O’Neill used, believing it covered anything to do with the tendon). Assume for the moment the other path was taken.  It takes about a year for a horse to heal from a tendon lesion. I know this from having had horses who have had the same issue, including Momentum, who we scratched the week before the Breeders’ Cup Classic in 2002.  In Momentum’s case he made it back to the races in May 2004. He lasted one race and tore the tendon again. The fact is that horses hardly ever recover fully from a tendon injury, and generally speaking, even if they do eventually come back, there is a weakness in the tendon.

Is this the fate that this horse, undefeated at three, winner of the biggest race in the world, provider of an experience beyond a dream, something that money can’t buy, my true hero, deserved? Of course not. The actual decision to retire him was not even noble; it was the only thing that could be done under the circumstances as presented from my perspective.  The hard part was going to Belmont and announcing it; seeing IHA looking absolutely fine and him having no idea that he would never run again.

Of course in retiring IHA, we knew there was a stallion deal to be made, so after the Belmont we sat back and waited for inquiries and offers. I confess I don’t know all of the ins and outs of the commercial breeding business, but prices for stallions are generally determined by what the farm thinks the stallion can stand for at a price where the stallion will get approximately 100 mares to breed on average over the first four years, understanding that the popularity and thus the number of mares and booking fee will be highest in the first year and then dwindle down through year four when the first crop hits the track. 

There might have been a lot of talk behind the scenes, but there were only two written offers from American farms, one for 3 million dollars and the other for 2.5 million for half of the rights plus 9 lifetime breeding rights, which puts his value at a little less than 5 million. By contrast the offer from Big Red in Japan was 10 million, with another farm bidding just under that. For further contrast, Bodemeister’s rights recently purportedly sold for about 13 million in America.

Still, if I loved IHA so much, how could I take the Big Red offer instead of keeping the horse in partnership with a farm in America?

Well, certainly greed has something to do with it. Being that the one offer was four times higher in cash than the best offer here meant that I couldn’t rationalize not selling him overseas.  Beyond that however, it should be said that the American offer anticipated a stud fee of $17,500 to $20,000, which means that he wouldn’t get the best mares and thus wouldn’t be given the best chance to succeed as a stallion. In contrast, the Big Red offer means that he will get a much better book of mares, and thus be given a higher chance for success.  I am hopeful that we can buy a few of those mares in foal and bring them back to California, so we can have some IHA Cal-breds.  As far as his care goes, he will get top quality care in Japan. People are not going to spend that kind of money on a horse and then neglect him.  Certainly in Japan there is heightened sensitivity to this because of the Ferdinand tragedy a few years ago. Of course, if the horse was ever to become available we would buy him back.

I am saddened and surprised by my decision to sell IHA abroad, as I had assumed up until the day of his injury that he would run in the Breeders’ Cup Classic, the Dubai World Cup,  maybe even the Arc, and then after his 4 year old season, or 5 year old season if he continued to win at the top level, that he would be a big time stud in Kentucky. So I have to question whether I am that shallow, as undoubtedly some folks would have kept the horse here despite the money. If the difference had been 2 million in valuation, I could have justified it, but it wasn’t, so I did what I did. I don’t believe it means that I love and admire IHA any less, but these are the facts, and everyone who cares to can make up their own mind.

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Thoroughbreds are the best

Thank you.  You are a true gentleman who handled a great deal of negativity with dignity and honesty.  The sport will survive with owners as yourself.  IHA gave us a tremendous thrill this spring and I, for one, am very grateful that fate smiled upon you in your purchase and campaigning of this lovely, talented horse. Well done.

09 Jul 2012 2:19 PM
Thoroughbreds are the best

Thank you.  You are a true gentleman who handled a great deal of negativity with dignity and honesty.  The sport will survive with owners as yourself.  IHA gave us a tremendous thrill this spring and I, for one, am very grateful that fate smiled upon you in your purchase and campaigning of this lovely, talented horse. Well done.

09 Jul 2012 2:20 PM
mz

Thank you, Mr. Reddam.

Let me know when you are in Toronto and I will buy you a cookie (me = cognac).

(It's what I thought ... breeders aren't breeding except for speed and fashion nowadays.  Sigh)

09 Jul 2012 2:57 PM
Delrene

Dear Mr. Reddam :  I thank you so much for the background information and helping to understand  your decision making process.  I was there Saturday to say "Sayonara" and goodbye to him it was not without tears.  He did mean a lot to us.  I saw him from his first race in Del Mar in person to his last on the television.  He did touch our hearts, such a fireball and what a team, Mario, Doug/Dennis/ Lava Man. ( I know I'm not naming all who deserve such enormous credit for all they did for this champion.  I do hope he comes back to the USA and wish he could be with his Pops.  I'm sure others will appreciate your guest column.  It doesn't make it easier but certainly helps our perspective.   You be sure and let his new owners know a large fan base is keeping a watchful eye on him   Thank you.  Wishing him a safe and easy flight.  

09 Jul 2012 2:58 PM
hangarvan

Wow! What an upstanding and outstanding character. Paul Reddam didn't owe anyone an explanation of any sort of his decisions with IHA. He gave an honest and forthcoming account behind the reasoning he used not only to retire the horse but also giving real figures in account with his decision to send the horse to Japan. So thankful there are still people like this in our industry. Thank you Paul

09 Jul 2012 3:20 PM
TXLonghorn

Thank you, sir.

09 Jul 2012 3:22 PM
Karen in Indiana

Thank you for sharing that with us. You were under no obligation to and what you have shared does fill in the holes with real life and not imaginations.

I think the Ferdinand episode has heightened Japanese sensitivities as to how we view our heroes, that is what Kentucky Derby winners are. Seeing the lengths they've gone to with War Emblem - he has his own pasture away from the other stallions and away from a lot of activity to try and help him feel secure and comfortable enough to breed when it would have been so much simpler to give up on him and get the insurance payout - should give those that are worried about I'll Have Another some comfort. He will be treated very well.

Your reasoning about the quality of mares IHA will be bred to is sound also. His bloodlines should suit Japanese very well. His grandsire is proven, his sire is off to a good start, and his bloodlines on the bottom should lend to stamina and turf. I look forward to seeing his youngsters and would you please let us follow the progress of any offspring you would acquire?

09 Jul 2012 3:25 PM
bellesforever

Thank you for the blog post Mr.Reddam.I am sorry that so many questions and so much negativity have been swirling around like bees about your team..I do not understand it and very bothered by it.I too have had horses with this same type of injury and they seemed fine until out of the blue..and like a rubber band..the tendon snaps.I am very happy that you retired IHA before he was hurt to the point of no return.It is easy to sit in judgement but not always so easy when you are actually the one with the responsibility.You are not a greedy guy..if the breeders here were not going to use him properly then Japan will and the fact that they wanted to pay a fair price for him shows that.It saddens me that US breeders do not seem to want a horse that can get the distance and this is a prime example of it.By the way..you don't owe anyone an explanation..I do hope this quiets the buzzing noise of the bees..

Thank you for supporting horse racing sir and I will continue to wish you and your teams..Good Luck!

09 Jul 2012 3:32 PM
Virgil

Mr. Reddam,

Thank you for your tremendous generosity of spirit in sharing this.  It's been quite a journey for all of us and it's grand of you to acknowledge that and give us the inside story from your side.  You did the right thing and that goodness is rewarded.

09 Jul 2012 3:38 PM
Linda in Texas

Thank you Mr. Reddam. I stand corrected, $10 million not the $30 million bantered about. And i apologize for believing something i heard and repeating it.  

As you mention, I hope we are able some day in the near future to see young I'll Have Another's racing again in California, Kentucky, New York and Maryland. Maybe even at Lone Star or in Louisiana.

I'll Have Another is a once in a lifetime horse. And I just hope he understands how important he is to so many of us. Just a handsome  racehorse. And i love his copper color.

Good Luck to you in your future racing endeavors. And thanks to you and The O'Neill Team. It was a Sunday Treat while it lasted. So many giant expectations for him.

And they will continue.

Thank you.

Linda  

09 Jul 2012 3:39 PM
Virgil

Mr. Reddam, I echo the previous sentiments.  Thank you.

09 Jul 2012 3:43 PM
casey

Thank you Mr. Reddam, for telling a non-deserving public the reasons and your emotions behind the whole TC/Big Red deal.  I commend you for your honesty.  To that non-deserving public, as a racing fan, I have had the privilege to see I'll Have Another several times since his tendon injury, due to the gracious hospitality of Team O'Neill and Reddam Racing.  IHA as I call him, has been brought out of his stall for me so that I could take pictures, feed him treats and pet him, as well as Saturday's parade at Hollywood Park.  I can tell the public that he has the BEST care, and that Team O'Neill is extremely careful handling him.  He has been well looked after by Team O'Neill, will be greatly missed, by the fans, but more so, by those who have cared so diligently for him.  The decision to retire him was the right one.  I know that Three Chimneys has offered to keep tabs on IHA as they also have dealings with Big Red, and have nothing but good things to say about how Big Red treats their stock.  IHA will no doubt have a wonderful time with the "girls" in Japan, and since there is a buy back clause, this hopefully will stop the uninformed commentary.

Thanks, Steve, as always for being available to set the record straight, and to Mr Reddam, thank you for the excitement you brought to the industry, for your enthusiasm and love of the horse.

09 Jul 2012 3:43 PM
Lydia

Excellent.  It doesn't get any plainer than that.  If "they" don't get it now, they're never going to.

09 Jul 2012 3:45 PM
anita b

Thank you ; I knew that with the tendon injury that retiring is the best and only solution for IHA. I even emailed a farm in Kentucky about syndicating IHA but I think thay thought you would be going to them. It is a shame; I would like to see some of his foals Cal bred and also NY bred! Thank you again.

Anita

09 Jul 2012 3:46 PM
GoodWitch

Thank you for sharing-it helps the disappointment and sadness. All of us have to admit, we'd "take the cash and run," except for the fact that IHA got a lot of people back into LOVING the sport vs. sport of gambling. Would have loved to see him stay as it was a really FUN ride! And here's hoping Mr. Reddam will bring him (or babies) back in the future. Happy Trails IHA - thanks for the memories!

09 Jul 2012 3:52 PM
Teezee

Dear Mr. Reddam,

Thanks so much for responding to the fans concerning this issue.

I wish I was wealthy bacause I would have bought a partial interest in IHA and really tried to keep him in the states. Won't you miss him? I would love to see a horse I owned almost every day and be personally involved wih him for the rest of his life. I hope you have a clause in the contract that says he can return here, because we never want to hear of another case of Ferdinand happening again. But thank you for responding to so many concerns. I hope we will all find that this was the right thing to do, especially for IHA. He deserves the absolute best.

09 Jul 2012 3:54 PM
Linda in Texas

Thank you Mr. Reddam. I stand corrected, $10 million not the $30 million bantered about. And i apologize for believing something i heard and repeating it.  

As you mention, I hope we are able some day in the near future to see young I'll Have Another's racing again in California, Kentucky, New York and Maryland. Maybe even at Lone Star or in Louisiana.

I'll Have Another is a once in a lifetime horse. And I just hope he understands how important he is to so many of us. Just a handsome  racehorse. And i love his copper color.

Good Luck to you in your future racing endeavors. And thanks to you and The O'Neill Team. It was a Sunday Treat while it lasted. So many giant expectations for him.

And they will continue.

Thank you.

Linda  

09 Jul 2012 3:54 PM
Deltalady

Mr. Reddam, thank you for your candid and heartfelt explanation of events surrounding I'll Have Another. Tears flowed as I could see through your words how painful all of this was for you. Tears are flowing as I write this.  I fell in love with this horse and he still has my heart.  I would like to tell you that from the moment I knew your decision about the deal with Japan, I did understand it. (My friends on Facebook can attest to this.)  My thoughts are for the horse and the legacy I'm hoping he has a chance to fulfill there that he wouldn't have in the U.S. I in no way blame you for your decision.  It really is a selfish one for those of us who hoped to be able to go visit him in KY, but it is the short-sightedness of the American breeders that makes me angry and frankly, disgusts me.  They turned their backs on Sunday Silence, and now they turn their backs on Little Red (as I call him).  I want him to have a chance to build a legacy, and with the best mares -- which will be Sunday Silence blood flowing through those mares -- I have a feeling we will see something very special not too far down the road.  Three Chimneys has offered to help provide a conduit for ongoing updates and information on Little Red, and I found that the Big Red Farm has an English web site with videos and photos of their stallions, and I’m hoping we get to see his arrival there and get frequent updates.  

Thank you, and thank Doug and his team, and all those who gave us a thrill of a lifetime -- we almost had that dream fulfilled.  I was very impressed and frankly in total admiration of how all Team I’ll Have Another handled themselves with total class and dignity, under some of the most difficult of circumstances.  I frankly don’t know how Doug stood up to it, but he did, never once giving in to what I know must have been a very strong desire to belt a couple of reporters, especially some of those on-air personalities!

Those of us who couldn’t make it to Hollywood Park to say goodbye have a wonderful video, courtesy of TVG on YouTube.  I have watched it many times, and will forever cherish seeing Little Red be applauded and cheered, and all the love the fans showed for him.  I was so glad to read you are hoping to get some of Little Red’s foals by way of a few mares.  What a wonderful gift that would be....even if they turn out to not be as talented as their sire, it will still be a joy to have one or two race on our shores.  

Thank you, Steve, for giving us an opportunity to hear from Mr. Reddam directly, and to express ourselves to him.  Ann Maree

09 Jul 2012 3:54 PM
Lisa g

I guess I feel too much with my Heart, I would keep Little Red in my house and yard.  But I understand the business part of your life, and you are right about getting the best mares and we have alot of them.

Lisag

09 Jul 2012 4:03 PM
Dr Drunkinbum

This is an excellent article from Mr. Reddam and I appreciate the honesty. Eventhough I was devastated by the news I never had any doubt whatsoever that the injury to I'll Have Another was far too serious to race him again, so the scratch for the Belmont and the retirement was the only thing that could be done. However I am quite surprised to find that the difference in what the Japanese would pay versus what the Americans would pay for I'll Have Another was so little. I thought the difference would be quite a bit more to justify sending him overseas. I do think that the initial stud fee that would be charged in America is not as relevant as Mr. Reddam believes and that there would be enough quality mares to breed to from owners jumping on the bargain. In the long run it is not the initial fee that counts but how his offspring do on the track. His fee could have easily gone from 17k to 100k in three or four years. Of course it remains to be seen whether or not IHA will have success as a stallion. I certainly hope he does and that Mr. Reddam is able to bring at least a few of his offspring over here. Only time will tell if the sale was a good business or financial decision or not. What if IHA was sold to a top breeding farm in Kentucky and Reddam retained 50% of the future profits and IHA is so successful that he brings in 500 million over the next 15 years? Thanks for a very insightful article Mr. Reddam. It is very much appreciated.

09 Jul 2012 4:14 PM
Karen in Texas

Thank you for taking the time and effort to make this statement, Mr. Reddam. I appreciate your candor. I'll Have Another obviously inspired a great deal of emotion in his fans, and I wish him much success in his new career at Big Red Farm. Again, thank you.

09 Jul 2012 4:18 PM
PonyChica44

Thank you Steve and Mr. Reddam,

It is so easy to think any number of things when riding the big wave of emotional denial that comes by periodically, as it does in the passionate sport of horse racing.  Your information is so clear and authentic, I am freed to relax in my own thoughts of appreciation for this horse and the wonderfully exciting, and now safe ride to the shores of love, and ultimate care for the horse.  Thankfully Mr. Reddam, you are a bold and true horseman.  Your courtesy of clear and concise communication are wonderfully appreciated.  Good luck to all.

09 Jul 2012 4:19 PM
FSF

It's admirable that you took the time to share these thoughts with fans. I particularly appreciated your description of the tendon tearing- for me at least, that made the extent of the injury much clearer. I got in several heated discussions with friends via Facebook the day of the scratch, defending the decision given that the horse's health seemed to come first. While these "friends" took the position that this was some sort of move to scam bettors, I choose (and continue to chose) to believe your decision really was motivated by the horse's health. Wish him lots of luck in his second career!

09 Jul 2012 4:22 PM
Terry M.

Well said, Mr. Reddam. Look what happened with the Canadian-bred Wando. No respect for a Triple Crown winner, and now this wonderful sire of Turallure is standing in Ontario for peanuts. I'll Have Another would not have gotten the good mares either. At least in Japan he will get the respect he deserves. I look forward to seeing some of his get race and win in your colours in the future!

09 Jul 2012 4:28 PM
LINDA MARIE

THANK YOU MR. REDDAM...WE FANS ALSO HAD DREAMS OF THE BREEDER'S CUP AND THE DUBAI CUP...WE ALL HAD OUR DREAMS SHATTERED...SHATTERED BY ONE LITTLE TENDON TEAR...STILL WISTFUL BUT THERE IS NOTHING THAT CAN BE DONE...THIS IS THE SPORT WE HAVE CHOSEN...THANKS FOR A GREAT RIDE!...GOOD LUCK AND GOD BLESS.

09 Jul 2012 4:40 PM
sceptre

Compassionate gesture.

Do you think A. Rand (albeit a lesser light) woud have reacted similarly?

09 Jul 2012 4:52 PM
Wahoowa95

Thank you, Mr. Reddam, for your honesty and disclosure. I wish the circumstances were such that you didn't feel the need to write this response - but hopefully it will help silence the critics. And in my opinion there's no question you and Doug did the right thing by retiring IHA - it was in the best interest of the horse.

Separately, congrats on Quiet Oasis' win, and for bringing us Mario Gutierrez. He's a rock star.

09 Jul 2012 4:52 PM
GJU

Wow, I have tears in my eyes after reading this. When I learned I'll Have Another was going to be scratched from the Belmont, I sighed and told my sister, also a racing fan, and our thoughts were kind of,"Well, it figures" as we threw our hand up in the air. You get THIS close to try for the big prize and it gets taken away. That's the worst part of horse racing. Finding out the horse was scratched and then retired within such a short amount of time was horrible for all of I'll Have Another's fans. Reading Mr. Reddam's comments here explaining everything, I feel like some of the people out there who think they know everything, forced him explain things, things that are absolutely none of our business, because we are just spewing our feelings out on a blog, not knowing one damn thing about what's going on behind the scenes. I appreciate that he took  the time to explain it to all of us. It is his horse. NOT ours. I'm grateful to have seen I'll Have Another win the Santa Anita Derby at my home track and then go on to win the Kentucky Derby and Preakness. Best of luck to Mr. Reddam with his horses in the future (and congratulations on Quiet Oasis' win last Saturday. I get a kick seeing Mario win for Mr. R.). I hope he does get a few of the mares in foal to I'll Have Another and bring them back to California so we can see some of I'll Have Another's babies. I would absolutely love to see some of them on the track. Thank you, and much respect to, Mr. Reddam. And thank you too, Steve Haskin. You're pretty special yourself.

09 Jul 2012 5:00 PM
Dr Drunkinbum

I have loved I'll Have Another's pedigree from the beginning and I do believe that the Japanese got a steal of a deal and they will be laughing all the way to the bank, and when it's all said and done, it will be considered highway robbery and the crime of the century. That is my belief but you never really know with breeding until the proof is in the pudding do you? It's always a gamble. Mr. Reddam certainly took the safer route. It is reassuring that Mr. Reddam will buy back I'll Have Another and give him a good home if it turns out that fillies in kimonos are not to his liking, or if his offspring don't like racing. I was quite happy to read that it's not a sell him and forget about him deal. Very good news there.

09 Jul 2012 5:10 PM
serena

As I mentioned in my other post, there is a divided group of the informed and uninformed fan.  Those who took the time to post here are obviously in the "informed" group.  Great insight and feedback by practically everyone on this blog. So many valid points filled with genuine concern and, more importantly, the appreciation expressed to Mr Reddam for his sharing.  Kudos to my fellow blog posters.

09 Jul 2012 5:22 PM
Derby Dew

Mr. Reddam, thank you for the insights into IHA's scratch, retirement and breeding sale.  I now have a better perspective on just how difficult this sequence of events must have been for you.

It's obvious you cared deeply for this magnificent horse and your wanting the best mares for him was something most of us hadn't considered as a breeding issue.  IHA deserves only the best mares to breed to.  Needless to say, we all want his offspring to have the best chance to become champions in their own right, just like their daddy.

Thank you for sharing your insights with the fans.  I think it's a classy move on your part.

Many of us will join you in following the progress of IHA in his new home.

Arrigato, Paul san.

09 Jul 2012 5:23 PM
supacoo

Thanks for putting an end to speculation as to the bid for IHA. Unbelievable.  The TB breeding establishment has shown themselves to be shortsighted in the past and this time prooved no different.  Rest assured that the fans -- ahem: the salvation of this sport-- loved the story, loved that you and your team were outsiders and most of all loved the honest spirit of your wonderful "Cinderella" horse.

09 Jul 2012 5:36 PM
Mindstalker

Mr. Reddam -

It must have taken a lot for you to write this guest blog.  Thank you for writing it and thank you, Mr. Haskin, for posting it.

Thank you for your clarifications and for sharing I'll Have Another with us.  I'm grateful to you and to Mr. O'Neil for retiring him with dignity rather than taking the gamble that could have cost him his life.  If there was ever any doubt with Mr. O'Neil's integrity, the way he handled I'll Have Another speaks volumes to his credit.

As for the stud deal, I know money was a factor but truth be told, I feel the need to thank you again for doing what was best for the horse and giving him what you feel is his best chance to succeed as a stallion.  I must admit that I see the point in your logic and therefore agree with your decision.

This year's Triple Crown was a wild ride, I'm glad to have shared it with you and your team.  It's clear that IHA means an awful lot to you.  Best regards to you, Mr. O'Neil, and the entire IHA team in all your future endeavors.  

09 Jul 2012 5:39 PM
kskow

Sorry but I will not agree. He may love the horse but he loved the money more. I am an owner/ breeder but not on the scale of those involved. I just feel the comment about being shallow is true. I have never made decisions about my horses based off the money someone offers me. Sorry but that is my opinion and there are a lot more people in my area that agree with me. Some involved in racing and some not. It just soured even more people into hating horse racing, which hurts us little guys. All they see is a rich owner offered a lot of money to stay here and even more to leave. So to them it's all about the money not the horse.

09 Jul 2012 5:41 PM
woodshade

It doesn't surprise me that you sent IHA abroad. It's all about the money. The rich are never satisfied. They want more and more. You could have left him here for 1 year to breed with our mares, then still made money when you let him go.

09 Jul 2012 5:43 PM
Steve Haskin

There are always a few cynics that like to take the negative outlook, no matter what the issue. And there are always those who are say what they would do with their money when they dont have any.

09 Jul 2012 5:50 PM
Ranagulzion

Paul,

your response to the public's interest is to be lauded and appreciated. This poster certainly do.

09 Jul 2012 5:53 PM
New Racing Fan

Dear Mr. Reddam,

I feel the need to point out that $10,000,000.00 is not 4 times $5,000,000.00. There is a diffence of $5 million.

 

09 Jul 2012 6:03 PM
kincsem

Thank you, Mr. Reddam, for your sensitivity to putting the horse's well-being ahead of an attempt at a further racing career. I remember a story of the racing owners of Gato Del Sol purchasing him home from stud in Sweden, becasue they felt that winning the Kentucky Derby was more than most owners could ever expect from a young horse. Thank you for enlightening us that Bodemeister is regarded by the good ole boys in breeding as being more valuable than the horse that beat him. It angers me that they try to make their square-pegged "expertise" fit into the round hole of reality. Take for example, Holy Bull - considering the level of mares he had, he prevailed over the illustrious Fusaichi Pegasus, whom they were so sure was going to be a great sire, all based on pedigree. It would do my heart good to see IHA flourish in Japan, and prove them wrong, again, as with Sunday Silence. Maybe they'll learn...or maybe not!

09 Jul 2012 6:06 PM
Sandy in Lexington

Mr. Reddam, thank you so much for posting this guest blog regarding I'll Have Another and the decisions surrounding his Belmont scratch, his retirement and the sale to Japanese interests.  America fell in love with IHA and everyone wanted so much to have another Triple Crown winner - the first of this century - and to celebrate with IHA and all connections.  He gave us all such a thrill every time he was on the track and yes, off the track as well!  With all that being said, he was your horse and I respect your decisions and thank you for sharing him with America while you had him.  I wish you all the best in your future endeavors.

09 Jul 2012 6:09 PM
Danette

Thank you Mr. Reddam for your candor and for sharing with us what went into the thought process for the decisions made. It's reassuing to know that IHA will be well cared for and appreciated in his new home.  All the best.

09 Jul 2012 6:11 PM
chucky

Woodshade -

One year to breed? don't you get the message. OUR BREEDERS DO NOT CARE FOR TB LIKE I'LL HAVE ANOTHER.

Did you not read about the difference on the mares that are going to be partnered with him here in the USA vs Japan.

Forget about the greed factor, Mr. Reddam did the right thing. I rather see great tb that can win the classic distance and most prestigious in the world than the media trying to convince me that the Met Mile or the Queen Anne is in the same class and level as the Kentucky Derby or the Arc de Triomphe.

09 Jul 2012 6:12 PM
Margaret Lewis

I may not agree with Mr. Reddam's decision to see IHA overseas but at least he can fess up to being on the greedy side. That in itself says a lot.

No matter what that horse SHOULD NEVER GO WITHOUT THE FERDINAND CLAUSE. That clause gives the connections first dibs on the horse when they are finished with him.

And even if Mr. Reddam doesn't want IHA Old Friends or KHP might.

If the Japanese are so into horses let them raise and slaughter their own. Costco on occasion sells bison meat and after seeing these magnificence animals in person, having dinner with one (it was a date), mr. Bison was eating the scrub grass and I was eating cheese and crackers--nope, no way, no how will I dine on bison. I feel the same way about horses.

09 Jul 2012 6:20 PM
rams2050

Mr. Reddam --

I love I'll Have Another, and I thrilled to each of his races and wins.  I just know he would have clinched the Triple Crown, had he run.

I appreciate the fact that you came on to this site to share with us, I'll Have Another's many fans, the truth of the situation.

Thank you so much for this classy move, and I wish you nothing but the best in your future racing endeavors.

I hope I'll Have Another is a huge success as a sire, and I further hope that your stable will soon be in receipt of several of IHA's colts and fillies to thrill us even more in the U.S.A.

09 Jul 2012 6:21 PM
Anjkgrey

Thank you, Paul, for your blog and I'm glad you admitted greed played a part. It's not Red's well being we are concerned about while he is of use to that farm. It is what happens to him when they are "done" with him. I am a huge animal lover and love the USA with all my heart so, personally, I would have kept IHA in America, where he belongs, money or no money. I pray that IHA will be ok and lead a great life when they are done breeding him...and wish whatever does happen then, happens to you as well. Good luck.

09 Jul 2012 6:35 PM
robinm

Exactly, Steve.  So easy for some to say what they would have done if the horse were theirs....who really knows until faced with a similar situation.  Mr. Reddam quite honestly stated that the money was part of the decision, but not all.  Were I he, I might have been offended by the offers from American breeders and sold him elsewhere because of that alone.  But I believe he is correct in stating that American breeders would not have supported him nearly as well as the Japanese will.  I'll Have Another will have much better prospects to be a successful sire in Japan, sad to say.

09 Jul 2012 6:38 PM
Dr Drunkinbum

Initially when the news came out of I'll Have Another going to Japan I posted a couple of blogittos when I was mad where I went a little overboard and had some regrets about my posts which is one of the hazards of posting in the heat of the moment. It primarily turned out harsher than I would have liked because I was astonished that Mr. Reddam was quoted as saying that he would have loved to have seen IHA stand in America. It sounded like it was coming from someone that had absolutely nothing to do with IHA's fate. Then today his statement that "I am saddened and surprised by my decision to sell IHA abroad," instead of confusing the situation actually clarifies it a little for me and takes some of the sting out of it. The frank descriptions of emotions and the comlexity of the decision is well written in this exceptional article, and thank you Steve for reaching out to Mr. Reddam to get this clarifying article out to us cynics and poor people wallowing around in the mud digging for truffles with our snooty snouts. Well we got some truffles today.

09 Jul 2012 6:43 PM
rowdee

Thank you, Mr. Reddam, for posting what happened, and what went into your considerations....you owned the public nothing beyond what was said/done when  iHA was retired.

And Steve, thanks for letting him put this blog up.  And thanks, too, for your comments at 5:50 pm today.

09 Jul 2012 6:59 PM
casaNM

Mr. Reddam,

Thank you for thinking in the long-term for IHA, who NOW has a chance to become a world-class sire, like Sunday Silence and (it looks like) Empire Maker. You're right, IHA will get the top mares in Japan. There is an interview with IHA's new owner in today's Thoroughbred Daily News, and he sounds like a caring, yet savvy owner who comes across as overjoyed to own IHA. I have a feeling we will be seeing his progeny racing here, maybe even in a Breeder's Cup. Probably representing Japan. Oh, the irony!

09 Jul 2012 7:00 PM
gregcanadian

What a classy move by Mr. Reddam to even reply to the Haskin article nevermind providing so many private and/or personal details.

I too was lucky enough to be carried along in the IHA "entourage" through racetrack friendships. Oddly enough, I too was in the lobby of my hotel in New York when I heard rumors of the scratch then confirmation. And I too wanted to come back to California rather than staying for the Belmont but I stayed out of respect for the race (and because the change fee on Delta was approx. $2000!!)

I had the opportunity to talk with Mr. Reddam that afternoon at Belmont before his Boxeur Des Rues ran in the feature stake. As always he was an extremely classy gentleman who seemed at peace with the situation. His comments to me that afternoon were absolutely consistent with the way he described the events of that morning in his guest blog.

I can only add two things. First, it's really hard to imagine that IHA would not have beaten the slow winner of the Belmont by many lengths. This makes the events even tougher to accept. Second, having been to Japan and enjoyed races there, I would encourage IHA fans to make a the trek there to visit the horse (when possible) and take in some races.

09 Jul 2012 7:14 PM
woodshade

chucky,

You don't know how all breeders felt about breeding to IHA. Many probably haven't even made their mind up yet. And alot of good horses have come from mares that were not good. It was their father that made them good racers.

And after reading Boycott CashCall

comment on how much money Reddam is worth. it is really sad what he is doing with IHA. Like he said, he said he's being greedy. The rich are never satified with what they have. They want more, and more and more money.

And Steve, I don't have a negative outlook, just stating the facts as I see them.

09 Jul 2012 7:33 PM
Slew

Steve, Thank you for allowing Mr. Reddam an opportunity to have a voice.

Mr. Reddam, thank you so much for your time and patience with the fans.  You've gone above and beyond, and I appreciate your sense of loyalty to the sport, and to IHA. (though some choose not to see it.) I, for one, choked up reading your comments.  They were sincere, and a bit heart-broken, it seems.

I think that all the fans who ranted and raved about how much they loved I'll Have Another, never took into consideration how much you loved him, how much restraint from you it took to not run him in the Belmont.  What's worse, we all knew he would have won...and won the Triple Crown.  But you knew just how serious his injury was, and you did right by the horse. Kudos!

I felt your tears and your sadness.

You and your crew were tops. The O'Neils, Mario, the grooms, and Lava Man, along with IHA wowed us at every turn of the road to the Triple Crown. You've all shown so much grace under pressure, responding to a media storm with politeness, and taking Belmont's affronts in stride because you always knew you had the best horse.

And I could never fault you for selling IHA to Japan.  Their farms are beautiful, they're selective in their breeding, they had the highest bid, and the sport is gratefully appreciated by the entire nation.  We've lost that in America.  I hope you're able to bring some of his babies home.  

09 Jul 2012 7:34 PM
Shutterbug

Just to clarify something, maybe you were/are not aware of this Mr. Reddam but I distinctly remember reading that filling in one front leg was detected after the thursday morning gallop.  O'Neill said it went away, but returned following friday's early morning jaunt around the track with Lava Man.  

I know you did not ask my advice or opinion, and I certainly am not a self-made multi-millionaire like yourself, but here it is anyway.  I almost wish the offer had actually been $30 million;  that would have been an offer too good to refuse, rendering the decision to sell to Japan at this time much more understandable.  But, I really do not see the huge monetary difference between getting $10 million cash while relinquishing ownership vs getting $3 million cash while retaining half ownership and allowing for future monetary gain.  It is almost as if Mr. Reddam is betting AGAINST I'll Have Another's future as a stallion.  With all due respect, I hope that business decision proves to be a huge mistake in the longrun.  

It also seems to me that this young horse could have been nursed back to racing condition over time, just like last year's Kentucky Derby victor Animal Kingdom was.  The winning percentage of a $5 or $10 million dollar purse would have nicely bridged the gap between the Japanese and American stud offers.  It would not surprise me in the least to see I'll Have Another racing for his new owners in the future.  In fact, that was my first thought when I heard the news on June 17th that he was going to Japan, where all control over his future will be lost.  

I know Mr. Reddam did what he thought was best, and I realize that he is the ultimate decision maker, but that does not mean that I must agree with his decisions in the case of this dream colt.  Thank you for letting this horseracing-nut express her opinion, for whatever little it's worth.  

09 Jul 2012 7:51 PM
Doodge

Thank you for your honesty, Mr. Reddam.  I know you love IHA and want the best for him.  

09 Jul 2012 8:08 PM
1pony

Mr. Reddam,

Thank you for being so upfront and honest, I knew that the American Stud Farms had not stepped up to the plate for this wonderful race horse. I am ashamed that they are shunning him. Unfortunately the breeders and buyers are all looking for speed type horses and not stamina like IHA has. Until the breeders start breeding for stamina we will not see a Triple Crown winner. Thank you for sharing IHA with us and being so open and upfront about his injury, I grew up with horses and know that while you caught his injury so early, it would never be the same tendon and retirement was your only option. I cried when you announced his retirement in NY as I know in my heart that he would have won the Belmont Stakes and would be a Triple Crown winner. I will miss him and look forward to seeing his babies,  i do hope that you can bring some back to the US so we can watch them run.

09 Jul 2012 8:21 PM
Dr. Hansen

Well I was in the camp of those wondering why IHA ends up in Japan. I'll even admit I was critical in my mind but kept my opinion to myself. I am adamant about keeping Hansen in Kentucky, but in life there are few absolutes. Now seeing the extreme financials my opinion moves away from the greed interpretation to the common sense camp. I have very similar racing hopes for Hansen as Mr. Reddeam had for IHA, from Breeders Cup Classic to Dubai and yes even Ascot.

It is rather a shock to be an owner blending in the background one day and then unexpectedly having microphones put in front of you. Trust me most of us are not ready for that. In the beginning it is easy and fun but can become a bit of a mine field as I found out with white horses and tails.) Almost everyone in horse racing wants the best for the thoroughbreds and US racing and the passion can polarize opinions. I agree with Mr.Reddam that it can add to the fun and challenge of horse racing.

One thing I might have done different if I was Mr. Reddam.(arm chair quarterback)is wait on the scratch decision, and get as many vet opinions as possible (at least 3)on the tendon. If they all felt IHA could/would complete the Belmont safely, I likely wouldn't have benched him, especially if I knew we were going to decide on retirement.  You all know any human athlete in a similar situation would have to be dragged out of their sports Super Bowl. Going by the numbers, 34 years without a Triple Crown winner X 30,000 horses bred a year is a one in a million position to be in.  If we could have explained it to IHA I feel he would agree. History was on the line, and IHA could have retired a historical and heroic Triple Crown Champion.  Not having several vet opinons, or not knowing the extent of the tear, I will have to assume Mr. Reddam made the right decision to scratch with his knowledge of tendon tears. Who can question his passion and love for his amazing Kentucky Derby and Preakness winner?

09 Jul 2012 8:36 PM
thesnowleopard

All decisions in life are between love (emotional gain) and money (material gain) and rarely do the two come together. It is killing our sport.

09 Jul 2012 8:56 PM
Steel Dragon

I think if IHA could speak, he would've said "Let's get a second opinion just to be sure."

09 Jul 2012 9:13 PM
Alex'sBigFan

Mr. Reddam,

Thank you for writing this article and to Steve for having you as a guest.  I've supported team O'Neill throughout IHA's campaign.  And IHA, what a magnificent thoroughbred he is, I love him.  The love of a fan for a thoroughbred -- for if you dissect horseracing down to it's core, what is left?  The horse and the fan.  Therefore I do believe  that owners owe the public explanations because as I have stated in some ethereal way, although not financial, the horses belong to us, the fans as well.  It's almost as if an owner "relinquishes" part of that ownership to the fans and has an obligation to "connect the horse and the fan" either via websites or marketing promotions to bring the two core elements closer.  So in supporting Team O'Neil along this magical journey in quest of the Triple Crown this year I was deeply saddened and disappointed that IHA was diagnosed with the tendonitis and scratched from the Belmont.  That was a horse first decision.  The timing of the Japan deal and sequence of events was apparently coincidental and you have explained that.  By your own admission, greed, influenced your decision.  You were "saddened and surprised by your own decision" to sell IHA abroad, or as I call it outsourcing our American thorougbreds.  I respect all of what you have done, except the Japan deal.  I believe you campaigned IHA across this great country, he's America's horse, and deserves to live in his own country.  He has no voice in the matter.  You did your utmost to keep your team together in houses during the TC campaign in all of the states so it is to me a sort of juxtaposition on your part to not want to be involved in IHA's life.  I have nothing against Japan in and of itself, as a matter of fact their training facilities are state-of-the-art and America should follow suit.  There were so many times I've been out of the country in Europe, the Middle East, Morocco, and even in the best places in Europe I could not wait for that plane to touch down and be back on New York soil in the grestest country in the world, the USA. I just feel IHA should breed here in his own country and that sir is the only thing I don't agree with you on.  I would have taken the lesser offer and kept him here and gone to visit like the Mosses.  Best of luck to you sir with your other thorougbreds and I am glad to read at least if IHA becomes availale, which I am secretly hoping he does, he gets a chance to come back home.  Come home, IHA look how much we all love you.

09 Jul 2012 9:14 PM
Amy Hurley

Thank you, Mr. Reddam, for this explanation.  I remain very disappointed by IHA's injury, retirement, and relocation outside the U.S., but certainly respect your decision and your honesty in sharing the inside story with the public.  You have done much for the game of horse racing, and I hope someday you can "have another" champion.

09 Jul 2012 9:19 PM
smarty jones 99

Sorry, I'm still not buying this story. I still THINK that this deal was in the making in the days/weeks after the Preakness.

That 10 million would have dropped to 5 million or less with a loss or injury in the Belmont. He didn't want anything to jeopardize his money. I think the guy should just be honest and tell the truth. It's his money & his horse... you have no reason to lie!!!

09 Jul 2012 9:21 PM
Owlbet

I bawled my eyes out reading this.  

Anyway, I truly hope that I'll Have Another is another Sunday Silence.  In your face, America!

09 Jul 2012 9:50 PM
Abigail Anderson

Mr. Reddam: I've been sitting here for a fair bit of time trying to hammer out my response to your detailed recount of the injury, retirement & subsequent sale of our "Little Red" as we call him in our FB community, "Zenny's Tribe."  He got his nickname from Deltalady (above) who animates & informs our community.

When you stood in front of the press to make the announcement that the dream was over and I saw how you could barely speak, I started to cry for you. Later, I reflected on the power of the new media to bring me into real time and real tragedy almost off-handedly. I taught for many years and one of my specialties was media education. The thing about the new media is that it brings with it the sense that we are actually participating in what we see. And that, in turn, changes viewers' interpersonal relations with -- and expectations about -- what they see.

Hence, all of us who felt as though we were living that (highly romantic) dream with you, Little Red and his team were devastated to know that he would never get the chance to do what the stats showed he was going to do -- win the Triple Crown. The array of comments that then followed were, as you know, from the sublime to the ridiculous to the nasty. In the latter case, the inherent sense of mistrust at Belmont Park regarding your team and the sport in general was guaranteed to bring out the gargoyles.

Our FB community, thanks to Deltalady, has been kept up on all the news about Little Red, from his retirement at Hollywood Park to his filled book of mares in Japan to the logic behind Big Red wanting to acquire him. So I do come to your recount fairly well informed.

I agree with you that his best chance is an environment that respects him and that will give him a genuine chance to be a great sire. Smarty Jones never got the chance here and there have been too many others who have fallen victim to the quick profit mentality. But I guess most Haskin readers know that. What makes it painful is that it forces the horse racing industry and sport to take a rather hard look at itself. But I want what's best for Little Red and I have understood that you do, too, since that sad day in June.

I, too, thank you for sharing your views and experiences so candidly with us. I am pleased to know that people like the Mosses provide a model for you. You certainly have their generosity in meeting Little Red's public as you have today, understanding that we loved him too. He's a great colt and I have no doubt he'll become a wonderful sire.

09 Jul 2012 10:01 PM
carol in utah

My wishes for IHA

May you be top sire for yrs and yrs

May you be top broodmare sire for yrs and yrs

May you sire many Champions

May you become a sire of sires

....in short

May you follow in the hoofprints of the great Sunday Silence....and show the world how great you are...

then send a couple of your kids back here to kick some butt...

Congrats to Mr Reddam for this article

Shame on the breeders here who failed to learn the lesson taught by SS

...I know ....just the opinion of one ...

09 Jul 2012 10:11 PM
JoyJackson21

Dear Mr. Reddam,

I wrote an earlier response to your Guest Blog, but I'm not sure if it went through - I did not receive a response saying my message went through.  If it did, I apologize to everyone for posting a response twice.

I thank you, Mr. Reddam, for your Guest Blog spot here on "Hangin' With Haskin", and thank you, Steve, for giving this opportunity to both Mr. Reddam and the fans to address the concerns we all have about I'll Have Another.

Thank you, Mr. Reddam, for generously agreeing to explain the decisions behind the sale of I'll Have Another.  You didn't have to do so, and I appreciate that you graciously agreed to speak with us, and that you understand I'll Have Another's fans are deeply concerned for his welfare.  We needed closure on some of the issues that arose after the announcement of IHA's sale to Japanese breeders.  

First, there is the issue of the amount of money paid for I'll Have Another's breeding rights.  The original reports were that $30 million had been paid for I'll Have Another's sale.  Thank you for clearing up that you received $10 million for IHA, much less than reported but still a lot of money, and thank you for revealing the rather insulting amounts offered for his breeding rights by American interests.  

And most of all, thank you for letting us know that you WILL buy back I'll Have Another when his breeding commitments have been fulfilled in Japan, or when the time comes around to do so.  That has eased my mind a great bit.  It was my hope that the same arrangement had been made for I'll Have Another as had been made by Beverly Lewis in Charismatic's case, and it appears that it has been.  Thank you very much from the bottom of my heart for that provision.  

Mr. Reddam, I will not beat around the bush, I was very disappointed in you when I heard of the sale of I'll Have Another to Big Red Farm in Japan.  It seemed to be completely contrary to what you had earlier said in print prior to the Belmont Stakes that you wished to continue to race I'll Have Another for another 2-3 years and give IHA the chance to win all of the great major races ahead, THEN retire him.  

IHA was sold so fast I almost got whiplash from the speed of it.  It appeared as if money and the need for profit had totally triumphed over the love and loyalty you should have felt for I'll Have Another, when the exact opposite should have been the case.  I was not happy with you in the least little bit.  In fact, every time I thought of you choosing money over love for I'll Have Another and over concern for his best welfare, I saw red.  

I have followed and supported I'll Have Another ever since his very first race at Hollywood Park, and I had been impressed with how well you treated him and Doug O'Neill's team as they took care of him.  I was even more impressed when Mario was hired, and IHA subsequently won the Robert Lewis Stakes, and the manner in which your entire team celebrated IHA's victory - it was totally joyful.  The same was true when IHA won the Santa Anita Derby.  Doug's team, and your entire staff, was encouraged to be a part of IHA's victory, and the all night party is now legendary.  

You showed enormous class in how well you provided for Team I'll Have Another all along the way in the capture of the Triple Crown by I'll Have Another, and I admired you greatly for all of that, and the love you seemed to have for I'll Have Another.  

In one announcement all of that seemed to have been blown away, and I was furious on I'll Have Another's behalf.

After reading your words above, I now realize that you DO love I'll Have Another, and that you did take into account all of the issues that were critical to his well-being.  You made the right decisions for him.

I believe that Mr. Okada made a very wise breeding and business decision in acquiring I'll Have Another.  He showed great far-sightedness in his decision.  I wish the American breeding community had shown as much business acumen and far-sightedness as Mr. Okada did, because American breeders shot themselves right in the foot where I'll Have Another is concerned, and in the matter of improving their bloodlines as well.  Silly mistakes made by them all the way around on this one.  It's not the first time they have made this kind of mistake, and, unfortunately, it will not be the last time, either.  

That IHA should have been scratched from the Belmont Stakes was never an issue with me, I totally agreed with you on that matter.  A tendon injury is serious and takes a long time to heal.  The last thing I wanted was for I'll Have Another to injure himself on the track trying to win that race.  His good health was much more important to me than anything else.  Now that you have revealed that IHA had a tendon TEAR and not just tendonitis, people will stop with insisting that IHA should have run in the Belmont.  And it should put to rest that you and Doug feared the Detention Barn, that drugs were found in IHA's system and that is why you scratched him from the Belmont and retired him so quickly.  Yes, that rumor has been very popular on the Internet as well.

I also agreed with you that IHA should have been retired due to his injury.  It would have been a year long process to heal IHA's injury, and he may not have come back on top of his game, which would have been unfair to IHA.  It was better for him to go out on top, at the pinnacle of mountain top.  

The only people who wanted to see IHA race in the Belmont Stakes were the people who wanted to see a match race between I'll Have Another and Union Rags, and those who wanted to see a Triple Crown won this year no matter the price, even if that price meant IHA could have been hurt further to do so.  I have expressed several times both reasons are selfish reasons, and they still are today.  There is no doubt that the way the Belmont Stakes ultimately panned out, all things being equal, a sound I'll Have Another would have easily won the Belmont Stakes, and along with it, the Triple Crown.  I'll Have Another would have been a Triple Crown champion.

I never blamed Mario Gutierrez or Doug O'Neill for the sale of I'll Have Another.  Their love for I'll Have Another was always evident and never in question to me.  You were his owner, and the buck stopped with you, Mr. Reddam, as far as I was concerned.  After reading your words above, my mind has changed about you again.  I am no longer displeased with you.  You do love I'll Have Another, and in the end you made the best decisions for him.  You have my respect again, something I thought was lost forever.  You made an excellent point in that American breeders were not interested in giving I'll Have Another a chance to breed with their best mares.  The Japanese breeders have reportedly been obtaining high-quality American mares.  IHA will have a far more superior crop of mares to breed with, thus enabling him to better succeed as a champion stallion.  I'm certain IHA's going to be a highly successful, legendary stallion. He succeeds, overachieves and dominates in every area he has entered into, and this area will be no exception.

I am still FURIOUS with American breeders in their short-sightedness, allowing an uber-talented, superior champion horse like I'll Have Another slip through their fingers.  It's mind-boggling they will pay more to breed with Bodemeister than to breed with the horse who defeated Bodemeister twice, the horse who is loaded with not only fabulous speed but also great stamina, which will make their bloodlines stronger.  It's really arbitrary and rather silly to breed for speed and only speed, especially when you expect those same horse to win Grade 1 Classic races that are over a mile in length and require stamina to win them, no expect them to win the Triple Crown.  And they were being cheap as well, preferring to breed with Flower Alley at $7,500 instead of with I'll Have Another at a high fee.  Of course, Flower Alley's fee is now "Upon Request" so American breeders didn't save a dime in the end in preferring to breed with Flower Alley.  That decision turned around and bit them in butt very quickly!

I read Mr. Okada's article in the Thoroughbred Daily News today and it thrills me that HE is so excited about acquiring I'll Have Another.  He sounds like a very nice man, and has great appreciation and respect for I'll Have Another.  I'm sure he will be very good to IHA, as IHA certainly deserves.  That's all I was ever concerned with in the first place.

So, thank you once again, Mr. Reddam, for your candor and forthrightness.  It is very much appreciated.  

Congratulations on Mario's win on Quiet Oasis.  She is a very nice filly who is full of potential, and I will definitely follow her on her upcoming adventures in racing.

Good luck to you, your wife, Doug, Doug's team (including Lava Man) and to Mario.  Team I'll Have Another was a joy to watch.  And it was a great privilege and an honor to watch and be thrilled by this incredible, uber-talented, full of heart, exciting, copper-colored champion colt - I'll Have Another.  I will love him forever.  Thank you for sharing him with us!

09 Jul 2012 10:19 PM
thesnowleopard

I'm just happy IHA did not run in the Belmont. Racing does not need another asterisk. Go Union Rags: clean and mean, even without allllll the green! The sport needs you.

09 Jul 2012 10:36 PM
Mike Relva

MR REDDAM

Never had a problem with IHA scratching if he couldn't race.

Jerry and Ann Moss set the gold standard in placing the horse first ahead of anything else.

09 Jul 2012 10:37 PM
Abigail Anderson

And I meant to add that the exchanging of bloodstock between different countries might actually help to revitalize our sport worldwide. After all, there would have been no Frankel had Northern Dancer's progeny all stayed up in Canada and no Man O' War without trading in thoroughbred bloodstock. Both American & Canadian thoroughbreds are descended from British thoroughbred sires.

It would be fabulous if there was more exchange of great thoroughbreds like I'll Have Another and the wonderful Empire Maker.

09 Jul 2012 10:48 PM
Stevebiscuit

Thanks for sharing this with us, Steve. Paul Reddam truly is a class act.

09 Jul 2012 10:55 PM
jlvszen

Thank you for this information. Your love for and pride in IHA comes through loud and clear. I am shocked and saddened at how undervalued IHA was by the North American breeders. No wonder we haven't had a triple crown winner in decades when the horse with the best shot wouldn't have been given a decent opportunity.

09 Jul 2012 11:02 PM
Mrs. Barnside

I agree with Smarty, and I too think something was wrong with the horse after the Preakness. No trainer in his right mind doesn't work a horse that is getting to run the farthest he's ever gone or will most likely go again, three weeks in between races at least once. I think this is a lot of smoke B.S, but guess all we have is what's written to go on right?

May the horse have a good life in Japan and I hope he sire's a Triple Crown winner. Now that would be poetic justice.

09 Jul 2012 11:05 PM
Susan from VA

Thank you, Mr. (or is it Dr.?) Reddam.  I've always chalked it up to the short-sightedness of American breeders - which I still do.  I hope the Japanese will show how much the American breeders missed out on in this deal.

09 Jul 2012 11:06 PM
sceptre

My plan was to simply offer my short post (above) to Mr. Reddam and leave it at that. I then made the mistake of reading some of the dissenting and partially dissenting posts and found myself enough puzzled as to offer the following:

How is it possible for some among you who claim to be avid fans of the sport to remain so clueless. Afterall, you're obviously aware of The BloodHorse site, and if had the interest to find this, you undoubtedly read other sites and publications. I'm sure you follow racing, and must read and follow this to enough degree to cause the confidence expressed in what is so often your misinformed statements/opinions. You evidence great enthusiasm, and due to it must naturally devote much time to this interest. How then were you unable to glean enough to form a reasonable perspective? Want some examples? Several here have suggested that IHA's new owners will race him in Japan. Name one US RETIRED stallion prospect sold to Japan that subsequently raced in Japan. Now that you're aware of his tendon issues (and the time needed for even a partial recovery), do you honestly believe that his Japanese owner(s) would be so foolish as to attempt a racing comeback and blow the 2013 breeding season on a stud horse they value at $10M? Several also have opined that IHA was spurned by the KY breeding establishment because he was seen as more of a distance influence. While many stud prospects are rejected for this reason, I assure you IHA was not seen in that light, and this did not contribute to the value of the offers. IHA displayed enough speed for them, he did not possess a one-dimensional stayer's pedigree, and his total body of work (as to the races he won-the names of these races and their distances), not too dissimilar from a Fu Pegs, would not discourage the KY folks. But, there are other criteria to consider, not the least of which is pedigree. Well, by KY standards (rationally assessed) IHA's combination of pedigree and performance and, perhaps, conformation, placed him now at a $17,500 up to, perhaps, $20,000 initial stud fee evaluation. You may believe he should stand for much more, but the reason he wouldn't has nothing to do with biases against him due to stamina. There are enough examples (of unprovens) out there to refute that suggestion-so why haven't you noticed them? Again, IHA wouldn't be seen as one with too much stamina-his racing performances and pedigree doesn't reflect this. At the present time his sire, Flower Alley, has done relatively well, but he is still a work in progress and subject to go the other way. IHA's up close female side is nothing yet to rave about. You may view IHA's racing performances to be demonstrations of remarkable talent, but their (KY) assessment of same likely differs, and why should you believe that your perspective is more accurate? Among the many other considerations is the degree of support (mares) that might be provided by the original owner (Mr. Reddam). He's already confided (elsehere-published) that he's not that interested in breeding-no doubt has very few mares, and not inclined to build a large broodmare band-, so not much support from him. Haven't you ever read articles on this subject? Hard to avoid. Enough with that. What about those here who have difficulty comprehending Mr. Reddam's stated words on the offers he received. One was for $3M for the entire horse, and the other $2.5M for half, plus the buyer also receives 9 lifetime breeding rights. The latter offer was the better of the two, but less than what would be a straight $2.5M for half without the extra breeding rights. So, Mr. Reddam was correct when he summarized that the horse was valued at a little less than $5M vs the $10M offer from Japan. Actually, Mr. Reddam was being a bit generous, as he would actually receive only $2.5M up front, and he (with the help of the farm) would then be required to attempt to sell shares in much of the other half. You avid followers of the sport who were also opinionated on this very subject should be savvy to this. Steve already adressed those bloggers who were so certain about what offers they'd refuse without knowing how the shoes would fit should they find themseles in such a situation, or without being privy to Mr. Reddam's every day realities. Perhaps Mr. Reddam reasoned within the context of a bigger picture-that IHA is no more derserving of being retained for life than are any of his other many horses. If he can't keep them all...          

09 Jul 2012 11:15 PM
Aluminaut

All my best to the connections of I'll Have Another.  To commenter that "thinks" the deal was in the works post Preakness........If that were so, it would be for the whole horse and would have been completed before the Belmont with a chance at the Triple Crown for the new owner.

Good for Mr. Reddam sending his horse where he is wanted. Talk is easy and some are quick to criticize without taking time to think first.  I wish IHA was standing in Cali.  I have a mare that would be a great fit for him, but she has a career first.  I'll Have Another will be missed.    

09 Jul 2012 11:17 PM
Dr Drunkinbum

Dr Hansen

  Looking fine walking and looking fine galloping or being able to survive the stress of the Belmont Stakes with an injury are entirely different matters. Reddam and team didn't need any other opinions once they got the diagnosis. It was an easy decision. It not only would not have been fair to I'll Have Another to race him with the injury but could have been devastating for the entire team, the sport of horse racing and all of the fans if he had raced and broken down on the track in the Belmont Stakes after an injury was discovered. Can you imagine the the negative press horse racing would have gotten? It would have magnified a thousand times the already negative press about the O'Neill barn. I do believe that Mr. Reddam is playing armchair quarterback to a certain extent over his decision to sell I'll Have Another to Japan however. Maybe he could have taken more time, and maybe waited for counter offers or maybe talked to the American breeders a little more or just taken more time to let the options and possible future scenarios sink in. I am a big fan of Hansen and I wish him and you the greatest success. What a marvelous horse he is. He was perfectly placed in his last race and that was a beautiful sight indeed to see the greatness of the galloping ghost again. He's brilliant, and I do hope he can succeed at 10f. The hoopla over the coloring of the tail is really nothing. I know you had valid reasons for wanting to do it but many of his fans love his beauty as is. Remember that fans are passionate and can write things in the heat of the moment that seem hateful but they aren't. It's just like any sporting event with rabid fans cussing and screaming and calling names. It's just competitive craziness. You are a passionate owner and a bright spot in the sport and you certsinly don't need to temper your enthusiasm because of rabid fans or writers as long as you keep the health and safety of the amazing Hansen in mind. Hansen has already brought tremendous joy to his fans but I would like nothing more than to see him win the rest of his races and retire to stud in Kentucky. What a gift that would be to racing.

09 Jul 2012 11:37 PM
Bigtex

Mr. Reddam,

I've mentioned before, my hope was that you had justifiable reasons for sendng IHA to Japan.  In doing so, your financial position would ultimately result in furthering your success in racing which, in turn, would be a blessing for all of us as fans.

Now, let's hope you get some baby reds that carry dad's torch, AND, there's cause for you to get IHA back in your stables in the future.

You had me there with you in the lobby when "no bueno" came through your ear piece.  Wow, what a heart wrenching morning to digest such terrible news!

Somehow, I feel as though this is not the end of the story for team Reddam.  Coming from Texas and tornadoes, perseverance doesn't come with out tumultuous headwinds and flying debris while still clawing your way forward!

Mucha Suerte!

09 Jul 2012 11:41 PM
chucky

Woodshade -

Mr Reddam is not the first to send a classic winner overseas. And I stand by my statement that our breeders could care less about our classic distance winners. My conservative guess is in the last 2 decades we have sent a few dozen top tier classic winners overseas. We even sent our greatest turf hor

se Manila overseas. Yes most of these owners are wealthy people and could have kept the horses here in USA but the breeding market just like any business is driven by supply and demand. The demand here in USA are for fast milers who can win from the get go and the target race the MET MILE. That is why we kept shortening races and hardly any great 3 year old races into their 4th year. The American breeders were already stating that even if IHA won the Belmont, his value wouldn't change much. Sure there are the very very few owners who would want to have a great classic distance horse but unfortunately most of them live in Japan.

09 Jul 2012 11:46 PM
sceptre

Sounds to me that Dr. Hansen would have run the horse if only 1 vet in 3 would have given him the go-ahead. He did say that he would have gotten at least three opinions, and if all three said the horse could compete then the horse would have competed. Well, Dr. Hansen, you already know that one of the vets (perhaps 1 for 1) found the tear on ultrasound and supposedly advised that the horse shouldn't compete. So, what are you talking about?!. You've also, no doubt, read the remarks of other vets on the subject of IHA/tendon. What was at stake should have nothing to do with it. Your analogy to human athletes is bogus; a) they have the RIGHT to make a choice, and b) the potential degree of severe lifelong or life threatening injury is far greater in the horse. And you're a physician (as am I), I'm surprised. Actually, I'm not.  

09 Jul 2012 11:52 PM
Alex'sBigFan

Dr. Hansen,

So glad you joined us here with Steve!  Don't ever stop your marketing efforts, you were great for the sport this year.  Your out-of-the-box thinking is just what is needed, albeit except for the blue tail idea!  We had you having quite a case of derby fever and needing to see our good Dr. Drunkinbum!  But all in a good way.  You inspired the creativity in me, I did that same color blue satin dress with a large white hat for the Belmont this year, the reverse of your "Hansen girls" white dresses.  Hope Hansen is well, we all love him too on Steve's blog.  He was my initial Derby pick except I was afraid his HardSpunesque running style wasn't going to get him the win.  I hope he runs in the Haskell or in Saratoga.  Best of luck to you and your beautiful Hansen and am glad to hear he will breed in this country.

10 Jul 2012 12:01 AM
Dr Drunkinbum

Paul Reddam

  The bottom line is that I'll Have Another is alive and healthy and will be able to go into his new career relatively pain free and presumably have a great life. We don't like losing his talent and natural stamina to Japan that could have possibly produced a Triple Crown winner here but part of what made the reaction so strong was that the sale to Japan came so closely upon the heels of the crushing news that we would not have a Triple Crown winner again this year after waiting and hoping and cheering and coming so close so many times before. There is no doubt whatsoever that the decision to scratch from The Belmont was the right one. That is horse racing. Horses get injured and can't race. Maybe a little more time between the scratch and the sale to Japan would have softened the blow some but it is what it is, and maybe you will someday bring a son or daughter of I'll Have Another over here and we will still see a Classic winner from his offspring here in America. It was a great run with I'll Have Another while it lasted. We had a lot of fun. I don't want us to forget how spectacular I'll Have Another was in 2012, and how cool and gracious the entire team was under the intense and often ridiculous media scrutiny and condemnation, and the absurd suspension of Doug O' Neill for milkshaking eventhough the CHRB themselves stated that it wasn't milkshaking. It wasn't even a malt or a root beer float. Or even Sake.

10 Jul 2012 12:19 AM
Janis from Winnipeg

I'll Have Another was my favourite going into the Derby, I've really liked him since the Robert B. Lewis.  I really thing the breeders in North America are going to be kicking themselves in a few years.  I think his breeding lines are incredible and not easily found in that combination.  Sorry he couldn't stay with us.  I know you're disappointed too.

Thanks for the ride we all took with you and your beautiful horse!

10 Jul 2012 12:39 AM
captainsmistress

Thank You Steve, you have given Mr. Reddam a forum to express himself and his motives regarding his horse. Mr. Reddam, you have explained your motives to us, and you really did not have to. Thank You to you for giving us such wonderful memories to savor and enjoy! I would just implore you to bring IHA home if the Japanese owners no longer want him! He would have people here who would line up to visit him at an Old Friends. Or some other pensioners' farm. Yes, I think he will be a smash in Japan, American breeders have blinders on, I think!

10 Jul 2012 12:41 AM
Paula Higgins

Mr. Reddam, thank you for taking the time to write this for all of us. It was very kind of you and this certainly represents that very nice man I saw in the t.v. interviews. As I said, on the first blog by Steve, I feel you made the right decision to scratch him. The horse first, period. I am sure you were devastated and the let down was pretty awful. I am sincerely sorry for that. I do understand Dr. Hansen's point of view, but I think considering the flack Doug O'Neill was taking from all sides from the media, this was a necessary decision as well.  If you had taken the chance, raced IHA, and he was significantly injured, there would have been no end to the media fury. So the decisosn was right on every level. As for Japan, sigh, I still would have kept him here. You are right, I cannot get past Ferdinand. All I hope is that if he does not prove out as a sire, that they send him home to OLD FRIENDS or a similar place. I know 10 million is a chunk of change, but if you offered me that for my 14 and 4 month year old miniature schnauzer right now with the intestinal problems, I would tell you to take a hike. My heart is tied into these animals in a big way. Maybe that is the male vs female thing. Who knows. But regardless, thank you for a very nice response to all our questions and comments. It was a kind thing for you to do Mr. Reddam.

10 Jul 2012 12:49 AM
runFarFastFreeSafely

Thank you so much for immediately retiring I'll Have Another after learning of the severity of his injury.  Unlike most of the rest of you, I don't give a hoot about his breeding legacy, just want the horse to be happy and healthy the remainder of his life, which hopefully will be accomplished in Japan.  

10 Jul 2012 1:35 AM
sal ear

WOW! I never realized there were so many Reddam sycophants! it's ODD?

RE: "I am saddened and surprised by my decision to sell IHA abroad.....I have to question whether I am that shallow, as undoubtedly some folks would have kept the horse here despite the money." Ummmmm.....Ya THINK???

RE: The support of DOCTOR Hansen (vs. Hansen the Horse): "Who can question [Reddam's] passion and love for his amazing Kentucky Derby and Preakness winner?" Ummmmmm....I question it, Dr. Hansen.

(People loved Hansen the Horse....but the Owner?...well...)

10 Jul 2012 1:36 AM
Fran

Mr. Reddam, thank you for taking the time to explain the situation with IHA.  It is something that few owners would do in behalf of the fans.  Your heartfelt feelings on the matter are so appreciated and probably very difficult to write.  As a thoroughbred horse owner (eventing) I know that even a very small tear is a career ending situation. Rarely will a horse come back to the level prior to the injury.  You really didn't have any options. I will say that I am shocked that you did not receive more substantial offers from breeders in America.  It doesn't change how I feel about IHA.  He is an awesome horse.  While I am sad that IHA is leaving the US, I know IHA will be given the proper respect in Japan.  He will be loved and cared for and, hopefully, when he has finished his services in Japan he will be sent back to the US.  I know that you will monitor him too.  You are an amazing individual, and I believe that we all have a tendency to be greedy so there is no reason to apologize.  You, however, are honest enough to admit to some greed which is extremely rare.  Since none of the people who make negative comments walk in your shoes, and they are, unfortunately, making negative comments without knowledge of the situation.  Again, thank you for your honesty.  Best wishes in the future and please give IHA a nice big smooch from me.

10 Jul 2012 2:07 AM
swaps

Reddam likes the money. He could have built a gold plated paddock for him. The horse won him the KY Derby fer csakes.how many horses win the KY Derby??he's not the first nor will he be the last. Horse won me the Derby I'd bow down to that horse every day. Iha sort of a scrappy sort like Sunday silence. They make good studs. Saw dynaformer before he was famous. Guy said he bit somebody'finger off and ran off with it.never found the finger

10 Jul 2012 2:42 AM
robinm

smarty jones 99 - unless you have proof that the Japanese deal was in the works before the Belmont and unless you have proof that Mr Reddam is NOT being honest and telling the truth, frankly, I think you shoud keep your nasty opinions to yourself.

10 Jul 2012 3:43 AM
quiet american

to- smartyjones99 ( i couldnt agree with you more!)

BOTTOM LINE IS: Money walks and bullshit talks..IHA couldve won the crown hands down ..say what u mean and mean what u say mr reddham.. $$$

10 Jul 2012 3:45 AM
jamicheleify

Well, I'm certainly not thanking Mr. Reddam for writing this blog because it doesn't provide me with any consolation.  Yes I know, he didn't have to write it!  Although, I will thank Mr. Reddam for buying such a wonderful horse!  I will also thank him as IHA's owner because his horse made me so happy. I loved watching him run.  I will also thank him for choosing the O'Neil team to train his magnificent horse because they seem like a fun group!  They certainly added to the fun and excitement.  IHA & Lava Man tweets...how awesome was that?

My thanks and reverence goes to IHA! I first had to deal with the fact that I wouldn't get to see IHA win the triple crown. A couple days later my only consolation was that IHA would become a stud at some farm in Kentucky and that I'd be able to visit him & see his kids.  Then to hear that he was being sold to a farm in Japan was all the upset I could handle.  

I just want IHA to be safe, happy, healthy and receive the best care in Japan(although all horses should receive the best care despite their racing record).  Thanks again Mr. Reddam, especially for listening to Dennis O'Neil, and buying such an extraordinary horse!

I'll just end with thank you IHA, I'll miss watching you race.  God Speed Champ!

P.S. If you're interested please watch the Lava Man tribute to IHA video my son made to cheer me up before we found out he was going to  Japan.  www.youtube.com/watch

10 Jul 2012 5:16 AM
A Horsey Canuck

As a Canadian, I was so impressed by Mr. Reddam's comments, and proud too. As a thoroughbred race horse fan, I was so pleased to see such honesty by an owner of such an outstanding horse. In my opinion, Mr. Reddam is in that elite group of owners such as the Mosses....whatever is best for the horse is paramount.  I hope we see some IHA "babies" running over here. I also hope that he will pick up the torch, carried for so many years and continuing generations, by Sunday Silence. Thank you Mr. Reddam, you are a true Canadian, a gentleman, and genuine horseman!

10 Jul 2012 7:16 AM
JerseyBoy

In defense of America’s breeders, I submit the following.

Over the last 20 years, there have been 58 male Classic winners from about 600000 foals. Of those standing at stud in America, only one has a stud fee in the $60-150K range. That is Bernardini.

The chances of an unproven Classic winner becoming a sire in that range are remote. There are only 12 sires in that range in America.

Curlin’s fee is $40K

Street Sense’s fee is$40K

Lemon Drop Kid’s fee is $35K

Big Brown’s fee is $35K

Afleet Alex’s fee is $20K

Selecting an unproven sire is a gamble.

I will bet that Data Link will become a superior sire to I’ll Have Another.

10 Jul 2012 7:47 AM
Melissa P

I guess there's one in every crowd who sees conspiracy where there is none. (I'm sure there was some kind of conspiracy against the equine Smarty Jones, too, in one person's eyes.)

Mr. Reddam, as a former owner/ breeder I can certainly understand your decision (although it was obvious very painful for you) to take the offer from Japan. Your reasoning is completely sound. Racing IHA was rolling the dice unnecessarily. Taking the offer from Japan where he will get the kind of mares who will accentuate his positives while bringing a better price was good business sense. People who have never been in the equine business do not understand how difficult the "business" of horses is. Not only do you have to look to your bottom line, you have to satisfy all the questions of whichever regulatory agency examines your finances (IRS). It would be very difficult to explain to a pencil- pusher how you turned down 4-times the money because you wanted to keep your horse near you. That would be looked upon with a very jaundiced eye.

Thank you and Team O'Neill for the fun, the thrills and the excitement. The access and candor y'all have given to us has made us all feel an integral part of this year's Triple Crown. IHA was a great racehorse this year. I hope that he will turn out to be a great sire, also. It would be fitting and it would prove that there is a place in breeding for a classic stallion.

10 Jul 2012 7:48 AM
CHIEF PICAWINNA

Did you have insurance on IHA?

10 Jul 2012 8:06 AM
Zaskar13

Other than IHA scratching, the biggest disspointment I had over this situation was America missing the opportunity to see Paul Reddmam on the talk-show circuit after IHA won the Triple Crown.

His intelligent, articular thoughts he dissplayed in the blog would have been a hit sitting next to Leno and Lauer and all the others who would lined-up to get him.

Horse racing would have never looked better with Paul Reddam as our spokesman.

10 Jul 2012 8:23 AM
TBDancer

First, thank you, Steve, for giving Mr. Reddam your blog for today. Second, thank you, Mr. Reddam, for sharing part of your journey with us.

Finally, thanks to you, Team O'Neill and Super Mario for three of the most fantastic weeks I've experienced in horse racing in a long while. From how IHA got his name to the visits with the Make A Wish kids, Lava Man, the story of Dennis's "all seeing eye" at the sale when IHA became part of your stable, how you "found" Mario Gutierrez, and providing the racing fans with the two best Triple Crown races I've seen in a LONG time--this was an absolutely fantastic story and I enjoyed the ride.

I think my favorite part was the interview after the Derby. The smile on Mario's face said it all.

I've always been a fan of Team O'Neill since the days of Merv Griffin who was so ebullient when he spoke of his experiences with Doug as a trainer of his horses. And I'm not claiming "choir boys" here, I think some of the bad publicity can be attributed to sour grapes.

I look forward to seeing IHA babies on the ground and hope he will be pensioned here in America where people can see him.

Thank you again.

10 Jul 2012 8:33 AM
Rachel NH

Paul Reddam gets to play at this level of the game because he makes the HARD decisions that need to be made to pay the bills for all the other horses and people who work for him.

It's not greed...it doesn't mean you don't have love for your animals...it means you see the big picture and your responsibility to everyone who counts on you.

10 Jul 2012 9:19 AM
Slew

I have the feeling that some people are missing the point.  Yes, the $10 million was a great offer (though I think he's worth more), but it wasn't Mr. Reddam's basis for his decision.  The basis seems to be the quality of mare with whom IHA will be paired.  Did you all miss that?  It seemed to play a major part of his decision.  In fact, it seemed very important to Mr. Reddam.

Don't forget, IHA just might have a chance for a date with Azeri, or a daughter of Sunday Silence. Not bad for a young stud like IHA.

As far as conspiracy theorists, your minds were made up too long ago, and seem closed to any and all other information.  Nothing any one says will change that, I'm sorry to say.

10 Jul 2012 9:20 AM
francisco

I saw Mr Reddam as a very bright and intituive person who had to make tough desicions always sticking with loyalty.

He kept Mario Gutierrez all the way despite his lack of expirence.

He stood for Dough O'Neill while being sanction in the midts of the triple crown ( Secretariat's owner and some others slashed at him very hard)

He knew, as some of of suspected, that one of the principal assets of IHA for his succes, aside for his heart, was that he was way a smarter horse than the average horse. He seemed to know he had to catch every time that awesome Bodemeister, and he seemed to know it had to be in front of the stands where his groing public would almost have tears of emotions by his accomplishments.

That made him different.

That difference made me think how nice would be the relationship between ownwer and this kind of horse off the track.

I'm not a horse owner, i'm just a fan from another country cought in this deep and marvelous world of horse racing. But what i don't understand is why to sell that horse for an amount of money, that at fist sight, does not seem  so high for Mr Reddams movements in the horse ownership and bussineses.

So when i read Mr Haskins column of "I wont have another" i understood that i was not the only one thinking there was a lack of loyalty towards the one who had to put up the most in this episode.

10 Jul 2012 9:22 AM
Checkmate

My thoughts

I am extremely pleased to see the over abundance of positives submitted here. That being said;

I have been totally immersed in the horse industry my entire life, more from the performance industry than racing for the last thirty-seven years.  I guess Ruffian was the final straw back then that separated me from the “i.e.” enchantment racing held. However, the last couple of years I have been draw back into this old love affair.

No matter the equine sport, to compete at the top of the game requires a vast financial commitment, an unimaginable amount of time, emotion and luck. Yes, to me, it’s all about the horses but just the love of something doesn’t pay the bills or navigate the best way to promote a career. Just because Mr. Reddam has the monetary resources to gamble on I’ll Have Another’s career much the way he wishes, does not mean he has to take a poll and get approval from the masses before doing so and being Obamaized for his ultimate decision.

I am an equine reproductive physiologist that has overseen and operated top end breeding & embryo transfer programs and I also train cutting horses. I have seen my share of injuries including tendon episodes. I wonder how many detractors of Mr. Reddam and Mr. O’Neill have first hand knowledge and the expertise to evaluate the extent of the specific flexor tendon incident that initiated the scratching of I’ll Have Another? There could have been ten opinions, now what, I do not believe that would have changed anything. It does not matter if some other individual had a come back after injury and recuperation, that is irrelevant. Just imagine the uproar, hate mongering and damage done to the sport that would have arisen if I’ll Have Another had broken down during the Belmont. What if .. What if .. What if. We can play this game all day.

Can it not be enough to have just enjoyed and marveled at the accomplishments of this horse and his connections up to the Belmont? How selfish a species we are.

It never surprises me how self-serving and self-righteous some of us can be, those individuals that always feel the need to be the conscious for the rest of us, as they themselves live to a higher standard.

One of the greatest freedoms and gifts in America is the right to have your opinion. Opinions and ass holes, everybody has one.

Hurrah…best wishes and best of luck

I’ll Have Another

Mr. Reddam

Mr. O’neill

Respectively,

Hand to Mouth

10 Jul 2012 9:28 AM
Love 'em all

I'm going to make this short and sweet by saying I agree with everything the first poster said about you, Mr. Reddam.  You really are a class act.  You did right by IHA ... on your own, I might add.

I'd also like to thank Lava Man for introducing us to "Cookie" on that Santa Anita Derby day.  Wow! Lava Man knows a winner when he sees one, huh?  Thanks to you and to Team O'Neill for sharing LM with us.  It's been a fun TC year.  

Wishing "Cookie" and his new owners much happiness for many, many years to come.  Again, thank you.

10 Jul 2012 9:52 AM
Dr Drunkinbum

Paula Higgins

   Loved your "take a hike" comment if offered 10m for your dog. I don't think it's a male or female thing. I think it's a family thing.

10 Jul 2012 10:05 AM
Slew

Mrs. Barnside:  Excuse me, your ignorance is showing.  IHA did not have "timed" workouts before the Belmont, but he DID have workouts everyday.  And he tore up the track everyday, impressing anyone watching.  Guess you missed that.

If you really believe breeders only want speed, why was AP Indy one of the top stallions at stud?  If they want only speed, why was Smarty Jones so forlorn?  

We are just crawling out of a recession, and there is a glut of G1 winning stallions standing at stud in America right now.  The more we have, the lower the stud fees go.  It becomes more difficult every day to find a good barn with an opening for another stallion.  That's how tough the American market is right now.

"Reddam syncophants"?  Just like you, people are expressing their personal opinions.  Too bad you simply don't want to hear anyone who doesn't agree with you.

10 Jul 2012 10:24 AM
Shelby's Best Pal

I don't think greed is good. I do think "the rich are different."  I would like horse racing to have a provision that any horse who wins our Kentucky Derby can never be sold to overseas interests. Ever.

10 Jul 2012 10:27 AM
Lammtarra'sArc

Mr.Reddam, and Mr Haskins,

Thank you for this article.  I have supported Mr.Reddam's decision,  and I must say he is even more classier in my eyes by coming on here to silence his critics , who have been angry,rude, and sometimes hateful.  Mr.Reddam when your back in Ontario stop by woodbine, and meet your fans who truely appreciate what you do in this sport.  Congrats to IHA yourself, Mario, and the whole team who guided this incredible talent to superstar heights.   I will predict that in the next ten years IHA will have a Japan cup winner, ARC winner, and BC Classic winner !

10 Jul 2012 10:54 AM
smarty jones 99

quiet american...

Thanks, I'm glad you & I see through the smoke screen. Everyone else just believes anything that they hear. Sometimes the writing on the wall is alot more clear.

10 Jul 2012 11:08 AM
Wrensflight

One can spin any situation in a way that makes it more palatable, but "greed certainly has something to do with it." Enough said.

10 Jul 2012 11:15 AM
breeze10

Dear Steve:  Thank you for bringing us this blog.  By doing so, you have displayed what a truly good journalist should display...the opportunity for true facts to be conveyed to the public.

Dear Mr. Reddam:  Thank you for explaining in detail the reasoning behind your decisions.  Such was certainly not required of you (and never should have seemed a requirement)... you have been most noble in providing an account to the racing fans.  To me, this accounting seems extremely genuine, very personal, and a true insight to all.  Yes, you are still receiving negative responses (there will always be those who fail to attempt to see reasoning..those who "know it all"...those who fail to see the heartbreak that all connections to IHA felt.)  Unfortunately, this type of person just never seems to "see the light" in life (continuing through life being untrusting and unbelieving).  

I, myself, when reading your initial response to the devasting news, felt deep pain for you.  To have conveyed how your little brother approached you with his "massive" question truly gave me a glimpse of the total devastation...the true heartbreak...that you had felt.  Afterall, this is one of the persons in life who knows you best.  My heart truly bleeds for you.

It is true, all of IHA's fans felt a deep shock, a devastating loss, and a knowledge of what-could-have-been. We, later, felt the same when we heard the news of the Japan issue.  At some point, I think we all need to find a closure. With this, your posting, the time is now.  It should be a time for all of us to trust your honest, unrequired attestment to your decision(s).

I find comfort, now, in knowing you are hopeful of acquiring some mares in foal to IHA..I look forward to a posting that such action has taken place.  I am relieved that you have stated that should IHA ever be available for buy back...that you will do so.  What more reassurance could we ask of you?

I personally thank you and Team O'Neill for the wonderful experience you gave to all of us.  I am always saddened when I think of the intense "beating" you all endured from some/many in the media and from the "know-it-all" fans.  My personal opinion is that you all handled all the negative situations and criticism with dignity and courage.  Noone ever faltered.(I would have easily said "enough is enough..to hell with all of you" and returned to California !)  Instead, you, Doug, darling Mario, all connections proved to be courageous, stand-your-ground horsemen!  I applaud you, all.

I feel, what many are remaining to overlook is that American breeding is so "screwed up"!  When they find a potential sire (who consistently had the best times per distance,throughout the Triple Crown Season),who fairly and legitimately won the first 2 rounds of the Triple Crown, and who was obviously the Best of the 3 years olds, they choose to place a higher value and regard on other horses who were "always the bridesmaid and never the bride"!  What the heck is wrong with their heads????  It baffles me !

To you all, I wish the best of luck in racing.  You have proven to be the best..your posting only adds attestment to that FACT.  Please do...buy some of those mares and give us all the opportunity to see our hero's little ones race on our shores.

Thank you, again for your honesty and from-the-heart accounting of the events that led to your decisions.

10 Jul 2012 11:28 AM
Ragsy

I'll Have Another, again,again and agin....  Love that HORSE...... and thank you Steve and Mr. Reddam

10 Jul 2012 11:35 AM
Zemonized

Thank You Mr. Reddam for taking the time to provide the fans of IHA with your personal information on the end of his racing career & future stud prospect in Japan. I wish nothing but the best for IHA & your team as well. I realize  American breeders can't keep all the horses, but it does seem some are devalued & shipped off prematurely, i.e. Empire Maker, as a recent example. Charismatic was one of my favorite Derby winners with breeding & stamina, but as far as I know he has had little impact at stud in Japan. I am curious as to why not many of the offspring of Sunday Silence, including broodmares, are not brought back to the U.S. once he became the proven exceptional sire that he was.  Is any of this a possibility for IHA down the road?  Thank You once again for sharing your feelings about racing & IHA with us & also giving the fans Lava Man Redux.

10 Jul 2012 11:40 AM
breeze10

Oh, boy!  The nasty, little creatures are really climbing out of the woodwork, now!!! Steve, Mr. Reddam has done his best to reassure IHA's fans...he had provided us with his personal insight when he certainly was not required to do so...can't you just "exterminate"  all the hateful, nasty, shameful bloggers??-Let them take it elsewhere!!  If they can't acknowledge Mr. Reddam's decency in providing explanations..they should not be permitted to continue with their own hatefulness.  You and Mr. Reddam have provided to us out of kindness and this nastiness should cease, IMMEDIATELY!!!  Lock them out...Paulick Report does!

10 Jul 2012 11:43 AM
deb

Sorry that American breeders did not appreciate your horse more. Bloodlines or not, I would have risked more to hang onto IHA here in the US. He has the looks, the charm and the muscle to pass on. I hope he does well in Japan and the babies make the American breeders sorry they did not take him serious.  Hope to see him back in the US again sometime and I hope the Blood Horse will keep us posted on his progress there.

10 Jul 2012 11:48 AM
Turf Writer Warren

Mr. Reddam:

After reading your blog I must admit your transparency certainly convinced me you had done the right thing.  When you mentioned the other horse you owned who had a similar injury, it had to make your difficult decision a bit easier.  

As a senior turf writer I have heard and written about more excuses than I'd like to recall.  I gained a lot of respect for you when you decided to explain in minute detail what actually took place.  I was among those who had some doubts.  You silenced those notions with your complete accounting of the sad turn of events.

I am currently writing a book on my experiences during the 70s which includes extensive research in the area of drug abuse.  There are a wide range of opinions out there.  Unfortunately many of those same opinions simply don't hold water.

Congratulations on a great run.  It was fun.  I can tell you that the two years working at Churchill Downs during Derby week taught me a great deal.  The Triple Crown is a huge order.  I can remember standing at the head of the stretch one morning.  I will always have this indelible impression of how far it is to the finish.  Your horse got by that hurdle, cleared the second one and had the final leg in view.  Unfortunately that goal was foiled.

Thanks for your candid look at what actually took place before I'll Have Another had to be scratched.

Warren Eves

10 Jul 2012 11:51 AM
an ole railbird

 well, i was going to stay out of this one, because i have voiced my opinion in the 2 previous blogs. but here i am ,feeling compelled to take up pen.

 mr. reedam, it is a noble thing that you did, writing this blog. after all the abuse that you have taken, (& taken it gallantly). you didnt have to do it. but it went a long way toward educateing some of the newer fans.  

 i would like to turn the conversation toward h.o.y.  

 iha has soundly beaten all comers ,in 4 major stakes races.  but the season is not over,& we should not be assumeing that he is the horse of the year. iha is out of it. retired. gone to japan. & there are a bunch of talent left to compete for horse of the year title.

haveing said that.   if the good fairy apeared before me & said "bird you can have your pick of any 3 horses in training today".  "but ,the 3 horses you pick,must be horses that you think that you can improve on." & you must survive totally on their winnings".

  the 3 horses that i would pick ,under those conditions would be JACKSON BEND- HYMN BOOK & HANSEN( the horse). jackson bend& hymn book, would be my meat & taters horses. i would point hansen toward winning hoy, again. but under the conditions of my acquisition, i have to improve on him. heres where i would start in my quest to release the beast within, which hansen has never completely shown. even tho he has had a brilliant career.

 ist would have him exrayed, from the throatlatch& poll erea to the end of his nose. all the while paying close attention to teeth,( both those already cut, & adult teeth that are waiting to come in. i would exaime his jaws (top & bottom) from the hinge out, paying close attenion to the hinge itself.  

having completed that. i would take that yellow bridal, with the ring bit & the figure 8 caveson, & put it way back in the corner of the tack roon, so it couldnt be found. i would send him to the track with a regular caveson & common d bit. with the caveson loose enough that he could hinge his jaw slightly.

  my next instructions to the jockey, would be, if he is not relaxing or in hand by mid way of the ist turn, let him go.

   i feel like the horse will learn to rate himself under these condictions.  when he learns to rate & quits fearing that ring bit. we are in for show that hansen has not put on , at this stage of the game. i have never wagered a dime on him, simpliy because of the way he acts on the bit.  although i have always feared that when he brings his a-1 game, all the other riders will be able to see is his white behind.

 i am not trying to be a smart-a--. merely offering suggestions. it makes an "ole man " feel good to think that his opinion might help .

 have a nice day. "an ole railbird"

10 Jul 2012 11:58 AM
JoyJackson21

Well, it certainly sounds as if Mr. Okada has stirred up a lot of interest in I'll Have Another in Japan in the very short time he has owned IHA.  

In his interview given to TDN, Mr. Okada says he has already closed a 70-share syndication deal in just three days for IHA, and expects IHA will cover over 120 mares next year.  Not bad for this fabulous champion horse, the best of his generation, whom many said wouldn't get very many quality mares to cover, and has been  horribly disrespected by our country's breeding community.

And I loved Mr. Okada saying that he loves I'll Have Another's conformation.  What a refreshing thing to hear after hearing all of the bad-mouthing of I'll Have Another's so-called lack of conformation by breeders here in the United States.  

I'll Have Another is a fabulous champion horse.  He has overachieved and won every race he was in this year, including the most coveted horse race in the world, the Kentucky Derby.  IHA succeeded beyond everyone's wildest dreams & dominated his opponents in all of his 2012 races - the G2 Robert Lewis, G1 Santa Anita Derby, G1 Kentucky Derby, and G1 Preakness Stakes. And IHA did it in thrilling, dramatic, very memorable fashion in every one of those races. IHA's last three races were all races for the ages.  We were honored & privileged to witness his awesomeness.  IHA was so good, he always made winning look easy. That 4th gear IHA possesses is totally breathtaking to behold.  I'm thrilled that the Japanese people have a great appreciation for IHA's greatness, and cherish and revere him because of it.  

Please take excellent care of IHA, Mr. Okada, and please give him lots of love.  He deserves that, and I know he will really love receiving it.

IHA is going to have a whole lot of fun with a plethora of beautiful, classy, talented mares starting next year.  Lucky boy!  IHA, you will be as superior in the breeding arena as you are on the race track.  You dominated all of your challengers in the racing world.  I know you will make all of these short-sighted North American breeders rue the very day they ever snubbed you.  

I love you, IHA.  Have lots and lots of fun, be gloriously happy and healthy, and be fabulously successful for decades to come at your new career as sire.  May you sire a huge number of G1-level uber-talented, cooper-colored, champion horses that repeatedly win the most prestigious races of all, all over the world.  May your progeny be horses who inherit all of your greatest attributes.  

This is not good-bye IHA, just "so long for now".  We will see you back here in the States in about 20 years, when you get to come back home for good and live the rest of your life in happiness, being well-provided for, and in excellent health.  We will follow your adventures in Japan, and cheer for your progeny all over the world, including those competing here in the States. It would be a hoot if one of your babies won the Triple Crown!  That would be sweet poetic justice.  

Great good luck, IHA, and great good fortune to you, my boy.  Thank you for all of the thrills, and incredible, top-tier racing. Thank you for everything!

10 Jul 2012 12:10 PM
halapeno

I agree sir with everyone else that you are a great horse person, man and you deserve all the admiration and wealth that you receive. Great insight  and I will add that again, the Japanese show how capitalism should work and how they take our ideas , resources and run with them.even improve them. Thats why the rest of us Americans are mostly broke  and still recovering from the greed gf the previous years.

10 Jul 2012 12:11 PM
steve from st louis

And my comments did not even address the predatory lending activities of his newest company, Cash Call. Just more of the same, I'm afraid.

10 Jul 2012 12:16 PM
Mike Relva

PHYSICALLY IMPOSING FIFTY PROOF

Who are you to lecture on "angry,rude and hateful"?

Have you ever read some of your own comments?

10 Jul 2012 12:26 PM
Shutterbug

Unless Mr. Reddam finds an IHA offspring in Japan for around $35K, he won't be having another.  Nice warm and fuzzy sentiment though.  

I think the number that tells the real story is 6,430.  That was the approximate anemic attendance at Hollywood Park on Gold Cup day, the day that the Kentucky Derby winner, Preakness stakes winner, Santa Anita Derby winner, and future export was paraded one last time for the American public.  By protest -- even though I love, love, love Game on Dude and IHA -- I was NOT one of those in attendance.  Just one person's way of voicing her dissent and disillusion with this sport.

10 Jul 2012 12:34 PM
chucky

Jerseyboy -

They are all unproven studs and Bodemeister is no exception. So why is Bode 4x more worth than the horse that beat him twice. Answer is fairly simple. The breeders today wants a horse that can win at 2 years old and since you cannot really run 2 years old at the classic distance or longer, the breeders go for speed horses like Bodemeister whose odds are better of getting a fast miler and can win the juvy. There is no defense for the breeders, it is about preference to faster ROI on the $$$.

10 Jul 2012 12:36 PM
smarie

Thank you for your candor and honesty, Mr. Reddam. Thank you for taking the time to write this blog and explain what you and Doug O'Neill and team went through from the time you found out about I'll Have Another's injury until now. People are longing for Throughbred racing stars. It has been so long since Affirmed won the Triple Crown and I believe had he been healthy, I'll Have Another would have won the Belmont Stakes. We as fans were so disappointed, but our disappointment was nothing compared to what you, your family and Team O'Neill experienced. Thank you for NOT running IHA in the Belmont. Your first concern was for the horse and that speaks very highly of you all. Far too many unscrupulous people run injured horses in races and we know the disasters that can come from doing this. Emotions have been running high after IHA's retirement and subsequent sale to Japanese breeders as you know. All sorts of rumors have been circulating and even after people read your blog, they are bound to continue. I believe you did what is best for I'll Have Another. I hope he gets the best mares in Japan and that some of his progeny will come to this country to race. He is a beautiful horse and he has that "certain something," that some horses have that draws people to him. We were all blessed to be able to see him run. I hope Big Red Farm will keep you updated on how he is doing and perhaps someday he will come back to the U.S. Thank you again, Mr. Reddam for caring enough to write this blog and thank you too, Mr. Haskin, for doing this. You two are class acts.

10 Jul 2012 12:41 PM
Minnesota Kid

Paula Higgins & Dr. Drunkinbum,

I respectfully disagree w/ your hypothetical rejection of a $10M offer for a family pet.

If you are an actual animal lover, do you know how many animals you could rescue w/ ten million dollars?

To turn down such an offer would be unbelievably selfish, in my not-so-humble opinion.

10 Jul 2012 12:45 PM
Alexander

I hope I'll Have Another destiny in Japan is going to be better that Ferdinand's!

10 Jul 2012 1:04 PM
onewhocares

Congrats Finally an owner that cares about his horse what a rarity in these days!!!!!!!!!! Hardly an owners would have done what you did!!!!!! J would bet my life that it was totally your decision and no one elses!!!!!!! Look at Lava Man always trying to bring him back!!!! Why oh why????  And all the geldings Mr. O'neil  sends to Los Alamitos to get every last dollar out of them and let somebody else worry about how cripple they are!!!!!!!!So my hats off to you Mr. Reddam!! For Japan it was the only place to go that will support him as you did He will definitely get all quality mares there and not the lesser mares that he would get here!!!!!!  Hope you the best in all you do Mr. Reddman for you sure are an owner of a different breed !!!!!!! Thanks for all the enjoyment you have gave us!!!!

10 Jul 2012 1:13 PM
JerseyBoy

Correction:

I said earlier that there were “58 male Classic winners” over the last 20 years. That is true, but they were in fact only 47 different male horses as some won more than one Classic.

10 Jul 2012 1:20 PM
Ranagulzion

Steve,

Kudos to you on this blog. Isn't the court of public opinion wonderful? I certainly think so. It may not require an oath such as "I swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God" from the prime witness (Paul Reddam in this case) but it is quite rigorous in the exchange of viewpoints.

Paul Reddam's a savy dude and he's coming out a winner here ...perhaps deservedly so.

Let those who'd scoff at public perception/sentiments observe and learn.

Haskin and the Bloodhorse deserve more than a cookie for this one.

10 Jul 2012 1:41 PM
robinm

For the most part, comments on this blog favor Mr Reddam's actions and applaud him for being forthcoming in his explanation.  To the few dissenters, I say again; if you want to be critical and disbelieving, that is your right.  However, you should have some proof to back up your dissenting statements, and you should show a little more class.

10 Jul 2012 1:50 PM
Linda in Texas

TBDancer is so right.

The 2012 Kentucky Derby and The Preakness were probably the most exciting races i have observed in many years.

We all can use our fifty cent words, wax poetic, tout our education and place in life, and outdo one another either rudely or with respect. But in the end none of that matters.

What will matter and be the defining moment is when I'll Have Another leaves his mark on racing by the colts and fillies he sires. Nothing will top that. No one will be able to take that away from him even if he had to go to another country to do it. It is Japan's foresight to accept him and America's hindsight not to.

Sincere thanks to all who made a wonderful ride the best in a very long time. Reddam, O'Neill, Lava Man, (you are awesome) Mario and all caregivers and to his fans, they shall not be forgotten and especially I'll Have Another!

And thanks always to Steve Haskin.

10 Jul 2012 2:09 PM
Runfast159

More than my words can convey Mr Reddam, I respect and admire you putting forth this information for all to see.  You didn't owe it to us, so thank you for that.

It's hard for those of us who have horses and keep them for personal, emotional reasons to connect with this very business side of horse racing you deal with.  I like to think had I been fortunate enough to have a racehorse, and one like IHA, that I would have taken less money and stood him in America because he's "ours", he's our Derby winner and he belongs here.  But that's a pretty altruistic way to look at things, especially since over time most owners will lose more money in the racing business then they will gain.

I for one was never concerned that the decisions regarding his racing career were not made in his best interest.  I knew the moment it was announced that he had a "soft tissue injury" that he would never race again.  It's the nature of the beast, unfortunately.  People should understand that by now.

But I can't hide my disappointment that he will not stand domestically.  From your words I sense your disappointment as well.

There is unfortunately alot of negativity surrounding the shipping of horses to Japan after the Ferdinand tragedy as you mention.  Greater awareness, and certainly the "Ferdinand clause" will hopefully prevent that scene from ever playing out again.  

All horses are a treasure, but we hold in high esteem those champions that win our classic races.  To continually see them going overseas is frankly...a real bummer! But I respect the Japanese horseman investing in their breeding programs with horses that display endurance and tenacity and being willing to import the stallions they think will pass these traits on. It's how great farms and breeding programs are built.

10 Jul 2012 2:54 PM
Paula Higgins

Minnesota Kid, I would not want to be your dog. Just so you know (because you don't know me) I am a monthly supporter of the ASPCA on automatic pay on my debit card. I am just wondering, do you do that? I am also a very regular supporter of OLD FRIENDS. Do you do that? I have also given homes to 4 shelter  cats over the last 30 years. As for taking any amount of money for a member of my family, that includes my 14+ year old dog, that shows a lack of a heart, not great humanity. Family pets are not disposable for money if you have any sense of decency. I am just wondering how you think an elderly dog who has known only one home would feel if he was suddenly shipped off to a new environment? Confused, depressed, despondent, and abandoned by those who love him are thoughts that come to mind. There is nothing altruistic about that. It's not about being selfish, it's about the dog. You can still help animals without being a millionare by the way. So please do so. Dr Drunkinbum, you are so right. They are family, who love you unconditionally and ditto right back.

10 Jul 2012 3:08 PM
woodshade

Boycott CashCall.

 They removed your post on Reddam's wealth.

robinm,

 You say to have proof of what we say. Reddam said himself he is being greedy by sending IHA to Japan. He's disgusting in my view.

10 Jul 2012 3:14 PM
slewcrew7778

Mr. Reddam,

I don't know if you will be reading this, but if you do, you have my sincerest apologies for the amount of time & effort I've put into tearing down your decision and your character. Although I still do not agree with your decision to sell overseas, your humility, openness and honesty have accomplished your purpose to bring emotional closure, and to establish your character, at least in my mind,as one worthy of respect.

10 Jul 2012 3:22 PM
plodderman

AMAZING: When the first news of IHA came out the emails were mostly in favor of Reddam being a jerk - the news being a lie - O'Neil being a rat and NY "squeezing" the horse out.

Now, I read the posts and the FIRST 35 ALL SAY THANK YOU. Can Bloodhorse be so stupid as to think we don't know these posts are censored????? We all know that the posts ALL run towards the negative, Where are the the BULL**** believers now???? My God - """for the record - I believe everything Reddam said"""

10 Jul 2012 3:58 PM
Old Old Cat

Thank you sir, for your wonderful blog.  My heart goes out to you and your wife.  And thank God for Steve, the first thing I look for on Blood Horse.  

All the nasty people who question your decision to scratch have never suffered an Achilles tendon (or any sports related)injury, and have no idea of the pain, suffering, and rehabilitation involved.  I challenge them to read Avalin Hunter's book "The Kingmaker", page 200 to see the alternatives to your proper (only) decision.  

My broodmare had the same type of injury, and we spent a lot of time and money with gene theraphy to get her strong enough to support a stallion on her back.  A horse might be somewhat funcional after that injury, but high level racing is problematic at best.  

I'll Have Another would have won the Belmont Stakes...  Anyone who thinks anything differently knows nothing about horses or horse racing.  He ran the final quarter of the Preakness in 19.5.  Not 24 or 25 or 26, but 19.5.  That's two consecutive furlongs in 10 seconds or better.  That's after running almost a mile.  HORSES DO NOT RUN THAT FAST.  The only horses that do it are 2 year olds in training at the sales on hard packed surfaces for the only times in their lives when they will ever run that fast.  IHA did it in a Classic, at the END of the race.  He would have gobbled up the mile and a half with no problem.  His YouTube gallops were unbelievable.  When I saw them I said "he just loafing, this is not the fast times people are talking about".  But the were... UNBELIEVABLE. His easy pace was setting fractions below 12 with no effort.

I can share your grief.  I am a first time breeder with a yearling filly.  I will live and die with her at the track.

Owners, Breeders, Trainers, Jockeys, Bettors, and casual fans all have different emotions and feelings when these unfortunate situations arise.  No one can judge you on your feelings.  They are all unique to you, we can only sympathize.

10 Jul 2012 3:59 PM
Lammtarra'sArc

What do you have to say for yourself RELVA??.  Except for ALWAYS making comments at me for expressing my opinion. Yet you have NONE to add yourself.  Your a pisser and moaner like the rest of the people crying and moaning over IHA going to Japan.  Yup Just go ahead and pay 13 million for Bodemeister but nothing for the horse who owned him...Boo hoo RELVA.

10 Jul 2012 4:27 PM
longtimeracingfan

Thank you, Mr. Reddam, for the candor and courage you display in facing what must seem like a horde of negative criticism and know-it-alls who really know nothing...

My thought runs to the question of what if IHA had not had the injury, and had run in the Belmont, and had won it... what then would be the response of the American breeders? SAME HORSE, SAME PEDIGREE, SAME TRAINER, JOCKEY, OWNER etc. --- it just boggles my mind.

I guess I can understand that Empire Maker was perhaps considered expendable by his owner, but WOW, what he left behind!! And as to Smarty Jones, he DID have a chance, at one of the top farms, but--- nobody came. Not fashionable enough. That's so sad. And now he has to go to URUGUAY for dates this fall.

Afleet Alex was not considered terribly fashionable until his foals started winning.

Is the American TB industry so focused on speed and fashion that the thought of a "slightly different" sire coming into the gene pool is anathema? Hmmm... I recall some horse named Candy Ride... he's been fairly successful ... what about Invasor, whose first youngsters are just hitting the track?  

The fact that the American breeding industry is so focused on the SALES HORSE rather than the RACE HORSE sure is plain to see. That's where the breeder makes his profit (or loss, if his reserve is not high enough). And while it's certainly only one of the several things perceived as pulling racing down, along with drugs, racing surfaces, industry consistency, etc., it's something that can be shifted if just a handful of breeders stand their ground.

From what I recall, Sunday Silence was said to have poor leg conformation (wasn't it calf knees?) and he was successful on the track in spite of it. At the time it was probably thought of as a "good deal for a mediocre horse" in spite of his racing prowess when he was sold to Japan. Now I'd like to truly see what he did sire in Japan, as to those conformational faults --- because they certainly did well for him--- or was it just because there were so many, it was just a standard percentage of winners??

Nowadays the Japanese breeders are much more in touch with Western thought and breeders, and I daresay the quality there is far better than it was when SS went over there, not due just to him but also to the quality mares they have brought in from US, Europe, and Australia. We need to keep a closer eye on what they are doing, because the races over there draw HUGE crowds, and the purse money is equally huge.

We in the US have become so insular, we cannot believe that other racing nations and traditions have better quality horses, or surfaces, or ideas, than we do... but we sure could take a few pages from their books. I'm sorry to lose IHA, but--- there'll be another next year, for someone, and we'll go through all this again for some foal of 2010...

Thanks, Steve, for giving Mr. Reddam the forum and for being so patient with petty or long-winded posters. Druther be long-winded, myself.

10 Jul 2012 4:56 PM
Ragsy

Joyjackson21

I agree wholeheartly with you, just can't wait for those babies to start comming.

God Bless

10 Jul 2012 5:40 PM
c/rock

The Preakness is 1-3/16 miles, not 1-1/4. The 19 second split is for 3/16 of a mile, not for a quarter mile. The time for the mile was 1:36+; the final time was 1:55+. There's your 19 seconds. And the reason Bodemeister is more highly regarded as a stallion prospect is because of his female family - that is what most breeding farms are interested in. Bode's dam was a GR3 winner by Storm Cat and sold for $1.7 million as a broodmare. Breeders want to see a history of producing stakes winners in the female family, preferably going back for several generations - it is the best predictor of success for a stallion prospect.

10 Jul 2012 5:42 PM
Mike Relva

PHYSICALLY IMPOSING FIFTY PROOF

My interest is for ALL horses. Trying to distance yourself from many that post here isn't working considering your attempt of becoming the next Draynay. Quit while you're behind. How's that for an opinion, does it work for you?

10 Jul 2012 6:52 PM
Mike Relva

MN KID

Absurd!

10 Jul 2012 6:54 PM
Maggie1

Hi Mr. Reddam, Thank you for the blog and explaining what lead to your final decision regarding IHA.  It’s a shame that the two American Farms did not consider him as valuable as the Japanese Farms.   I personally think your decision on retiring and selling him for the appropriate amount is fair and square.  Big Red in Japan offered a fair price for IHA’s ability and accomplishments.  

10 Jul 2012 6:56 PM
Will

Written cogently and coherently as one would expect from a university academic. O'Neill's use of the term tendonitis to describe IHA's injury certainly opened a can of worms about what could appear to be a premature retirement of a horse that could have possibly returned at a Grade 1 level as a 4 year old. A tendon tear makes sense of the retirement, and Mr. Reddam needed to step up to the forum Steve Haskin offered him to dispel the suspicions and dissatisfaction swirling around the colt's abrupt retirement. Perhaps though, Mr. Reddam should have parsed his words better than choosing to use the word "greed" to describe the sale of IHA to a Japanese bidder. There may well have been a little tongue-in-cheek employed in the use of the word though not all would catch the subtlety as the blog comments reveal. Reddam certainly set out to immediately mitigate his choice of wording by pointing out that the American stud fees would not have allowed IHA to cover the best mares, that he would have a better chance of success as a stallion in Japan, that Reddam hoped to be able to acquire some of IHA's mares in foal as Cal-breds, and that he would certainly buy IHA back in the future if he became available. Finally, he tried to assure horse racing fans that IHA would never suffer the fate of a Ferdinand with the remark that a Japanese bidder that paid a hefty 10 million for the horse would never let IHA suffer such a demeaning and cruel end. It was good that Mr. Reddam chose to explain himself in the Bloodhorse forum and, having been forthcoming in explaining his actions, he now appears to be more of an owner on the order of the Mosses as I always thought he was before the IHA retirement and sale abroad muddied the waters about his character and motivations as an owner.

10 Jul 2012 7:53 PM
Jockeygirl

You did a great job with him Mr. Reddam! I hope we see  more of your winners soon!

10 Jul 2012 7:56 PM
Sue Loves Slew

I am very sad IHA is leaving the US. I can't believe they offered so much more for Bode when IHA beat him twice. IHA is a champion to me and and has a special place in my heart.

I just hope and pray you will watch over him and if it doesn't work out you will bring him home where he belongs. He gave you a lot, never forget that and make sure he is always safe! You never said if there is a clause to protect him. Is there?

10 Jul 2012 8:07 PM
Smoking Baby

Old Old Cat.  I belive you mean the final 3/16 in the Preakness in 19 and change.

10 Jul 2012 8:10 PM
Smoking Baby

 Bummer about Union Rags.  Just a hunch but something tells me we won't hear all of the conspiracy theories and complaining if/when they decide to retire him.

10 Jul 2012 8:12 PM
Steel Dragon

I understand the disappointment most racing fans feel, but personally I don't think a triple crown winner would be much more than a fleeting boost for our ailing sport (like Zenyatta & Rachel). And IHA had much to prove before I would start lamenting that we lost a great horse. Does anyone think Real Quiet was just one inch from being considered an all-time great?

10 Jul 2012 8:14 PM
Minnesota Kid

Paula Higgins,

You most definitely would not want to be my dog, since she (a 13YO German Shepherd named Sophie) died on November 8, 2005. I wonder when the first day will pass w/o me thinking about her? It has not happened yet.

I simply stated that I disagree w/ your answer to a rather ridiculous hypothetical and......you come back w/ the aggressive self-righteousness.

Since you also do not know me, I, for some reason, feel obligated to let you know that I am a long-time financial supporter of the ASPCA, the WWF (not the wrestling), and the Sierra Club.

As for the horses, I currently own 100% of a soon-to-be retired 6YO gelding named Program Manager. He was a $120,000.00 yearling purchase for someone else. He has turned out to be an underachiever on the track, (3 for 38 lifetime, 1 for 18 for our group) but not as an animal.

The rest of the group did not want to continue their participation if it was time to turn him out and/or retire him, and I understood that, financial times being what they are.

So, since early January, he has been taking it easy on a farm north of Phoenix, where I am able to visit him 3-4 times a week.  The bill comes to about $450/month, but it is worth every penny when he begins to make noise upon my arrival.

This is just a long-winded way of saying, "take your aggressive self-righteousness and......"   well, you get the idea.

10 Jul 2012 8:43 PM
Minnesota Kid

Just heard the news on UR's injury-very unfortunate.

10 Jul 2012 8:51 PM
Mrs. Barnside

"Bummer about Union Rags.  Just a hunch but something tells me we won't hear all of the conspiracy theories and complaining if/when they decide to retire him."

Why would there be? lol.. Totally different situation and class of trainer and owner.

10 Jul 2012 9:04 PM
Minnesota Kid

Mike Relva,

Grown men (?)  that type in all caps and use exclamation points--

UNINTENTIONALLY COMICAL!

10 Jul 2012 9:07 PM
Ranagulzion

I nominate this for BLOG OF THE YEAR ...no joke ...almost as exciting as the Triple Crown races ...can't read enough ...I'll Have Another (LOL).

10 Jul 2012 9:17 PM
Karen in Indiana

Plodderman, I was one of those first 35 and I can tell you that after years posting on this site, my comments have never been censored. And I can also tell you from personal experience how tendon injuries feel and how they don't heal completely. They may not bother for a while and then it will flare up again over the littlest wrong movement. Whatever you may think about the people around IHA, they did the right thing by the horse and I've never said anything different. It was good that Mr. Reddam wrote what he did because too many people were filling in the blanks with all sorts of imaginings.

10 Jul 2012 9:18 PM
sceptre

Easy, Relva, MN KID's remarks weren't all that absurd. Mr. Reddam does have a reputation for being a generous sort. It's not such a stretch to imagine that he might contribute some of that IHA sale $ to worthy animal welfare causes. Would be somewhat fitting, don't you think? One animal helping many others. History suggests he's not the sort of guy to broadcast such gestures.  

10 Jul 2012 9:20 PM
Ranagulzion

What? Union Rags injured? no more ...its time to take a long break.

10 Jul 2012 9:22 PM
Paula Higgins

Thank you Mike Relva.

10 Jul 2012 9:30 PM
robinm

Old Old Cat - you are right; horses don't run 2 consecutive furlongs in 19 seconds and neither did IHA.  In your opinion, there may be a lot of us here who know nothing about horses and horse racing, but I think most of us know the Preakness is 1-3/16th mile, not 1-1/4 mile.

10 Jul 2012 9:47 PM
robinm

Not to say IHA's Preakness effort wasn't extraordinary; it was, absolutely.

10 Jul 2012 9:49 PM
Deltalady

As a footnote to what Mr. Reddam had to say about the disparity of a Bodemeister being worth $13 Million to American breeders, and I’ll Have Another being worth in cash quite a bit less,

Frank Mitchell in his blog today cited Mr. Reddam’s guest blog, and even included a link to it.  In his column, I’ll Have Another and the Pragmatism of Breeding Thoroughbreds, he explains quite succinctly: (quote)Today, the only part of American breeding that fully justifies its cost of production is the subset of big, robustly made, highly progressive stock that will show speed and early racing ability.(quote)

In other words, the American breeding industry is so fragile, the economics so thin, that the buyers will only consider those horses who show a predisposition to early maturity, who can get to the races sooner.  BINGO!!!  I GET IT!!!  No one has the resources to take their time to nurture a true Triple Crown winner.....quite by accident we were given a gift that for a brief shining moment almost took us to the stars. It magnifies how far over the cliff the American breeding industry has fallen!  This is really very sad and quite disturbing.  This further confirms my belief that I’ll Have Another’s best chance for a legacy is where he’s going.  And to those who continually harken back to the tragedy of Ferdinand in Japan, please note that Exceller met his end in Sweden. Most in the Japanese racing community were as horrified as everyone else when they found out what happened to Ferdinand.  And lest we forget, we still have some in the U.S. who recently tried to reinstitute horse slaughter.  Barbarism exists unfortunately everywhere.  

10 Jul 2012 10:01 PM
ofelia

Mr. Reddam, thank you for the info. The fans are not always privy to this process. I hope when the time comes, IHA will come back home where his fans can see him once again. Japan is so far away.

Until then...

10 Jul 2012 10:27 PM
mz

Plodderman, I never changed my opinion about Mr. Reddam from the start.

It appears that I am now a proud "First Thirty-Fiver".

(hey Bob/Ted, how's the Coast,/ Faneuil Hall?)

10 Jul 2012 10:32 PM
Alex'sBigFan

I don't think I am that sold on IHA getting better mares genetically over there.  Where is it written in stone that a great female runner with a better pedigree of blue blood is going to, or be better equipped to, produce a foal who becomes a winner?  What is wrong with our mares here?  Look at Vertigineux and La Ville Rouge, Maggie Hawk for that matter, they are not the caliber of Goldikova or Azeri but look who they produced - Zenyatta, Barbaro, and Afleet Alex.  I think it is a genetic crap shoot anyway that takes years to evolve.  I think IHA could be a top sire here or there.

I expected Flower Alley's stud fee to elevate, a dual-classic winner should elevate his father's standing.  And if IHA had won the Belmont, which if healthy I believe he would have, would anyone have expected the still very young sire Flower Alley to be the producter of the next Triple Crown winner had it happened? I think they are all being bred too closely, but with all these early retirements at the ripe "old" age of 3, it cannot be helped.  Which brings us back in a vicious cycle to the soundness issues, if only they could stick around on the tracks for a few years longer before going to the breeding shed, and spread out the genetics so to speak.

Now that IHA has to be there though I wish him with all of my heart all the best.

IHA will be chatting it up on the phone with Lava Man soon enough saying, "Enough with these kimonos already, I wish they all could be California girls!!!"

10 Jul 2012 11:07 PM
JerseyBoy

Chucky:

I understand the point you are making,10 Jul 2012 12:36 PM, but you cannot use Bodemeister and I’ll Have Another to make that point.

Bodemeister never raced at 2 and has never won a race at less than a mile.

I’ll Have Another won at 5.5 furlongs at 2 and is G2-placed as a 2yo at 6.5 furlongs.

In further defense of the breeders, I would like to state the obvious that they must be cash-flow positive or go out of business. It is the nature of capitalism. The creditors must be paid.

10 Jul 2012 11:15 PM
Edwalin

I respect Mr. Reddam’s decision to scratch IHA from the Belmont Stakes.  IHA had an injury.  No racehorse should be racing with an injury.  It’s not fair to the horse and it’s not fair to the fans.  If IHA had raced and something happened to him on Belmont Stakes Day that would have been the end of horse racing.  The fans cannot take much more with horses dropping on the track.

However, I DO NOT respect Mr. Reddam’s decision with selling IHA to a breeder overseas.  This owner is way ahead of the game in terms of MONEY.  He won millions of dollars in a very short time.  Never in a million years did Mr. Reddam and the trainer think that IHA would win the Kentucky Derby let alone the Preakness.  Union Rags, Bodie, Dullahan they were the horses that were likely to win.  So this owner is way ahead of the game in MONEY--not to mention the THRILLS IHA gave him.  So why couldn't Mr. Reddam have settled for less and sold IHA to an American breeder so IHA could remain in the U.S.  His answer to that is GREED.  But just because Mr. Reddam is honest about his feelings doesn’t make it OKAY!  I think it is disgraceful.

IHA ran his heart out and became an American Hero.  IHA ran his heart out and gave the owner and trainer the ride of their lives.  IHA deserved a lot more loyalty from his owner than what I think he got.  Sorry, but that's how I feel.

In comparison look at the difference in attitude between the owner(s) of Mine That Bird and IHA.  Who could have been more of an underdog then Mine That Bird.  But the owners will always appreciate Mine That Bird for taking them on the ride of their life when he won the Kentucky Derby.  To the owners of that little gelding–that Horse was their Trophy.   Mine That Bird was the TROPHY!  Obviously, the same cannot be said for Paul Reddam with IHA.  I’m sure the owners of Mine That Bird thought the money was nice too.  But they still have their horse.   And Mine That Bird isn’t earning a dime for them now.   But that doesn’t matter to them.   Mine That Bird will continue to live out the rest of his life on their farm/ranch.

In turn, IHA is going to be shipped all the way over to Japan.  Try finding pictures of Big Red Farms on the Internet.  I couldn’t.  Six years from now IF IHA doesn't produce graded stake winners for Japan, I would suspect that Big Red Farms isn't going to keep him.  Now he's sold to the next breeder over there.  Who in the U.S. is going to know about this 6-10 years from now.   Who?  Do you really think anyone is going to bother tracking a horse that isn’t worth anything?  If you do you must be delusional.  Who in the U.S. could even do anything about it 6-10 years from now?  Some may want to.  But I bet Mr. Reddam won’t be one of them.

Again this is just my opinion.  But all Mr. Reddam’s talk about wanting to give IHA the best chance of being a great stallion because he’ll have great mares I am sure is true to some extent.  But really I believe Paul Reddam is doing a little tap dance here trying to manage damage control.  He knows many of IHA’s fans are upset with his decision, and rightfully so.

11 Jul 2012 1:41 AM
Needler in Virginia

So as it happens, the gift to Mr Gutierrez of a breeding season to I'll Have Another worked out very well for him, didn't it?

What a pantload................

11 Jul 2012 1:48 AM
PomDeTerre

Rationalize away Reddam, however you attempt to justify it- YOU SOLD OUT.  American breeding loses a great stallion while you count your extra 5 mil.  Let's hope in 15 years you haven't created another Ferdinand.  Oh- you won't be there to see it, so no matter..  

11 Jul 2012 6:12 AM
Smoking Baby

Alex's Big Fan.  I believe the term "better mares" refers to better PRODUCING mares when racing is over and we are talking about the breeding business.  I'll Have Another would've been up against it here in this country because most of the "better mares" would be going to other stallions.  I'm no expert but I'm sure any savvy to the breeding business will tell you that no matter how good your stallion, if you don't get the mares you don't get the results.  Your example of Vertigineaux is an excellent example.  Sure she was no Azeri or Goldikova.  Doesn't matter.  She had already produced a Grade 1 stakes winner and one other stakes horse before anyone had ever heard of Zenyatta.  She's most certainly an example of a "better mare" even though she may not have been the best race horse we've seen.  I hope I'm making sense here.  It's early in California and I'm barely awake.

11 Jul 2012 8:25 AM
TripleCrownKaren

Being a life long horse owner(show horses NOT race horses) I can tell you that at 1 point in my 40+ yrs in this business I have sold a horse I bred WITH a buy back contract.   The buy back meant absolutely NOTHING as I came to find out when the person who purshased my 2 yr old turned right around and sold him!   It took my husband and I a full year to FIND him again and when we did he was in DIRE conditions.   One of my students discovered him while horse hunting for a friend!  She discovered him by accident in this back yard type situation in a Barbed wire pen the size of the average suburban back yard with 3 other horses, one of whom was a stallion.    He was 100 lbs underweight, ribs showing and all cut up from the stud who kept beating on him and hitting the barbed wire fencing.    My student & her Mom had known this horse since his birth.....they grabbed the phone called me and told me they had found JUNIOR and if we didn'd get him out of there he would likely die.   On the spot they offered this idiot some money and told me to come with the trailer.    Long story short, JUNIOR got on trailer, so weark he leaned on the wall the whole way back to the barn (about 10 miles away this whole time!).   It took him a full year to recover, but when he got off the trailer and saw his Mom (who I also owned) she "screamed" rather than whinnied to him, he answered and EVERYONE was in tears!    JUNIOR was HOME!   Although his Mom passed he is still with me in his 20's.

SO, Yes Mr Reddam can have all the buybacks stipulations he wants, but unless you have eyes & ears on the ground all around this horse, things CAN go wrong and people can be dishonest.    The bottom line lesson for me in all of this, is I love my horses enough that I will NEVER make that mistake again.   I have a young performance stallion NOW, that people have tried to buy from me, but I know his potential and his "quirky" personality....I just tell anyone who makes an offer to me, that they don't have enough "zeros" to put on that check to get him.  I'm not a wealthy person as Mr. Reddam is, (I work 2 jobs to keep everyothing going) but my priorities are a little different since JUNIOR almost lost his life because I "needed" money and SOLD a friend.  And then only by some MIRACLE getting back a horse I bred and am responsible for putting on this earth.   At the time I sold him I NEEDED the money.....but no amount of money was worth what we went through and the horrors he must have gone through to finally COME HOME!    Unfortunately racing is a business and the lovely creatures who make it happen are just COMMODITIES to be bought & sold. SO, please.....no talk of how you LOVE your horse....the money came first, it's not like you needed to pay YOUR mortgage or lose your home or any other dire situation.  He's your horse to do with as you please......and that's what you did.   I just hope IHA DOES have a good life and doesn't wind up another FERDINAND.   Mine damn near did.....I was lucky....we FOUND each other again and he'll live out the rest of his life with me........I may go without but Junior has no worries anymore!

11 Jul 2012 8:49 AM
Blum Gone

I would like to ask Mr. Reddam why he didn't handle IHA the same way he handled Wilko upon retirement.  Wilko was retired after winning a couple million.  He was in Florida (Stronach's farm), where I visited him about four days after his arrival here.  He looked magnificient.  

Frank Stronach closed his stallion farm here and distributed his studs at various locations.  I believe Wilko is now in Canada, where his fans can visit.

Two retired senior mares currently reside on my property.  I love them dearly.  Neither raced a day in their lives.  There is much more to Life than money, especially when one has more than one truly "needs."

11 Jul 2012 9:10 AM
Slew

Edwalin: just type into Google, Big Red, Japan...you should have no trouble pulling up their site, but apparently you didn't look very hard.

www.bigredfarm.jp/e_index.html

If you want to see the other breeding farms, check out the JBBA, the Japan Bloodhose Breeders Association.  You can keep track of our champions yourself.  All of the farms are listed.

http://www.jbba.jp/en/

And horses are followed up by the Jockey Club in each nation.

I'll ask again, why is there so much brouhaha over the sale of IHA to Japan when no one raised a squeak when Azeri, Empire Maker, Johannesburg, Aldebaran, Came Home, Stravinsky, Roses In May, etc shipped out to Japan?

Horse Racing is an International sport.  People need to get over themselves and educate themselves to different cultures.  When the yearlings and 2 year olds come up for sale in the USA, it's the Saudi's and the Japanese keeping our breeders in business with their dollars.  It's Coolmore, and Judmonte and Godolphin buying the babies. And they're winning international events.

And why is everyone so determined to tell Mr. Reddam what he should do with his horse and his money?  You didn't earn the $$, you have nothing to do with it.  Talk about chutzpah!  I have to assume your stories would be different if Bloodhorse turned around tomorrow, and decided to charge you an access fee....and a fee for every post.  Who would you scream at then?

11 Jul 2012 9:20 AM
Mike Relva

MN KID

Thanks for the feeble attempt of comic relief. Paula's a good egg and probably contributes more than you can count.

11 Jul 2012 9:46 AM
Bob from Boston

After reading this blog, I have come to two conclusions.   Dr. Drunkinbum seems to have a split personality and Mr. Reddam should give the 10 million dollars to Ted from LA to relieve his guilt.

11 Jul 2012 10:26 AM
Ted from LA

I have to agree with Bob from Boston on both points he makes.

11 Jul 2012 10:27 AM
Dr Drunkinbum

TripleCrownKaren

   Your post at 8:49am July 11 is the star of the show. An absolutely marvelous and heart warming story that really says it all. Thank you very much for starting my day out right !!! And thank you for being the kind of person we need more of on this planet.

11 Jul 2012 10:36 AM
Karen in Texas

plodderman----There have been a number of posters on Steve's blog who have kept an open mind since IHA's injury and retirement. Did you miss all those comments?

Edwalin----Big Red Farm has a user-friendly website (that I will link here for the third time) complete with numerous still photos and a lovely video set to music. It is in a beautiful, lush setting with trees and undulating hills. I had no trouble finding the site, especially since it has "English version" clearly marked from a Google search.

www.bigredfarm.jp/e_index.html

11 Jul 2012 10:59 AM
Karen in Texas

Edwalin----Who could do anything about this stallion 6-10 years from now? Who would? Here's another link for you; you'll need to read the entire piece to fully appreciate what is written.

www.bloodhorse.com/.../MB062806.asp

11 Jul 2012 11:14 AM
woodshade

Dr Drunkinbum,

Just curious, is Drunkinbum your real last name or one that you made up.

11 Jul 2012 11:40 AM
Lammtarra'sArc

Relva with nothing to add AGAIN as usual.  Who the heck is Draynay?....or what ever the heck it is your rambling on about......just like you always do...Babble on about NOTHING.

11 Jul 2012 11:48 AM
chucky

Jerseyboy -

Maybe you did not know that Uncle Mo commands 30-35K and this horse only significant win is his Breeders Juvy. The reason being is he is a fast miler same as Bodemeister.

I believe there is a lot of denial with some fans today who have no history with the great routers (no - a 2 turn mile or 9 furlongs is not routing).

Today, the vast majority and I mean vast majority wants a fast speed horse miler. If somehow they end up with a real classic distance router, well ok, let's give the Derby a whirl.

11 Jul 2012 12:05 PM
mz

For everyone complaining that Mr. Reddam had an obligation to keep I'll Have Another in the States, please explain to me why selling him to Japan as a stud is any different from consignors selling horses at yearling sales or 2YO sales or horses of racing age sales to Japan ... or Russia, or Korea or Great Britain or Chile or Argentina or Uruguay or Sweden .....you get my drift.

I don't have any problem with the outpouring of unhappiness because he will be gone.  I am unhappy about that too.

I have a GREAT DEAL of trouble, however, with some of the viciousness directed at his owner and the insularity of some of the bloggers.

11 Jul 2012 12:29 PM
Mike Relva

CAMELOT IN THE ST.LEGER

What do you bring to the table?

11 Jul 2012 1:27 PM
JerseyBoy

Just wondering.

Would the tone of some of these entries be different if I’ll Have Another had been sold to stand at stud in England, France or Australia?

11 Jul 2012 1:30 PM
longtimeracingfan

For those of you in despair over IHA's move to Japan, here's a piece on Silver Charm, one of my many favorites:

cs.bloodhorse.com/.../visiting-silver-charm-in-japan.aspx

Just one link, there are others... just do a litle web searching.

And looking at Big Red Farm on Google Earth, they have quite a setup and even have covered gallops that go UPHILL... how many training facilities here in the US have those?? They gallop uphill, walk down, and gallop uphill again for whatever distance they are galloping that day. Talk about legging up!

11 Jul 2012 1:38 PM
Linda in Texas

wooodshade is that your real name or one you made up?

TripleCrownKaren, nice story and even better for "Junior" and i wonder why the abusers bought him in the first place and i hope someone called a complaint of abuse in for the sake of the other 2 found with Junior. Thank you for caring Karen. I know there are lots of super people on here who really do give a flip. Shows in their words.

Unfortunately those who don't really care stand out like a sore thumb.

11 Jul 2012 2:36 PM
mz

Mike Relva: notwithstanding Camelot (and I hope he wins), we'll always have Nijinsky (NOT Nijinsky II!!!!!)

Speaking of which, didn't Bahram end up in Argentina?  The Brits didn't care about their Triple Crown Winner and sent him away when he was old and didn't produce at stud.  HMMMMMMM

11 Jul 2012 2:55 PM
mz

Sorry, Mike Relva -- just realized that you were responding to someone who used "Camelot in the St. Leger" as their call sign.  (It IS a call sign isn't it?  I feel very Top Gunnish when I write that.)

The general sentiment still applies.

11 Jul 2012 2:58 PM
c/rock

I personally am grateful to people like Paul Reddam. He makes it possible for me to enjoy my favorite sport. He could spend his money on anything he likes, but he chooses to buy horses and pay training bills. He takes all the risks and he deserves to have a good horse and make some money (For a change I'm sure! The horse business is a money pit. Voice of experience!)

11 Jul 2012 3:02 PM
Householder

Based on the fastest time in the Santa Anita Derby since 2001, as well as what IHA did against Paynter in that race, it would seem that I'll Have Another could have ended the Triple Crown drought with quite a bang.  

11 Jul 2012 3:22 PM
sceptre

Mrs. Barnside-re your comments, and also those that demaean Mr. Reddam for selling IHA to Japan:

What are (were) your opinions of W.T. Young, Graham Beck, and Bob and Beverly Lewis? My guess is that you'd feel about them roughly the same as you would Union Rags' owner. Well, the first three abovementioned were partners in Timber Country-rememeber him, he won The Preakness, etc., and was a blue-blooded top stallion candidate. Timber Country never stood a moment at stud in the US, because his (extremely wealthy) owners sold him to Japan. So, Mrs. Barnside-Union Rags has a "...totally different class of...owner" than does IHA? How would you know, and what do you mean by "class"? Is "class" determined by the circumstances of ones birth, i.e. silver spoon vs otherwise? Why is a Mrs. Wyeth classier than a Mr. Reddam who is a self-made, successful, highly educated man. It's rather easy to be soft and fuzzy when you don't have to struggle and work for what is attained. And by the way, Mrs. Wyeth initally did place Union Rags for sale, and sold him on an open market-where ANYONE from ANYWHERE could have purchased him...Some of you people really don't have a clue, and that's dangerous in a democratic society.  

11 Jul 2012 3:31 PM
Ted from LA

Linda in Texas,

Is that your real name or one you made up?

11 Jul 2012 3:50 PM
woodshade

Linda in Texas

It's the street name I live on. And it doesn't say Dr Woodshade.

11 Jul 2012 3:56 PM
woodshade

Linda in Texas,

Just wanted to thank you for asking about my name. And by the way, you spelled woodshade wrong. Get it together girl. My real name is Goofy Lindaintexas. I'm done posting, good day.

11 Jul 2012 4:52 PM
JJs Rocket

Mr. Reddam is a very honest man who at least admits what motivates him. I have to give him alot of credit for being that upfront about his thinking.

He is driven by money which is what 99 percent of the people are motivated by in the USA. There is nothing wrong with that as he makes his own money and should enjoy it how he wants too. He is very lucky to get such a wonderful horse that brought him on this journey the last few months. He enjoyed the moment and made the most of this time.

Owning horses and racing them is a wonderful way to enjoy some of that money. He likes the horse very much but doesnt love this horse. Having a horse like this was not his lifelong dream. You dont sell and send to Japan to never see again something you love or sell your dream. It was just a great ride that he got to enjoy and he will always remember. He puts alot into horse racing and deserves this ride but he will go through life always wanting another. The sad thing is he will never get another. But anyways thanks for being so honest and I enjoyed watching your ride. Hope the horse turns out to be a great stud.  

11 Jul 2012 5:40 PM
Slew

Karen in TX: Thank you for the link to Michael Blowen and Old Friends.  Nice to know TB retirement is now as cherished in other nations, including Japan.

Woodshade: If you have to ask, then you just don't get it.  The good "doctor" helps cure our blues.  

11 Jul 2012 6:06 PM
Lammtarra'sArc

What's wrong Relva...don't like my new name?...tough.

As far as what I bring to the game....more then you know, and none that is of ANY concern to you.  Now go back to contributing nothing on this blog as usual.

11 Jul 2012 6:09 PM
c/rock

Mrs. Wyeth may have been born with a silver spoon in her mouth, but she has had far from an easy life. She was paralyzed in an auto accident when she was only 20. She switched from riding jumpers to competitive carriage driving - would any of us have had the guts or the gumption to do that? There was a very good article about her in the Blood Horse magazine earlier this year. I gained a lot of admiration for her after reading that. I wish we could dispense with the personal attacks on people we don't even know.

11 Jul 2012 6:09 PM
JoyJackson21

To Ragsy:  Thank you very much, and God Bless you as well.

To TripleCrownKaren:  OMG, what an incredible story.  I was in tears by the end of it.  I am so grateful that Junior was found by your student.  Praise God that she found him, quite by accident, at that.  Her finding him was meant to be.  I'm so happy Junior is home, safe and sound, with you again.  The reaction of his mama to seeing him again made my heart ache.  

I'm deeply concerned for the two horses that were left behind when Junior was thankfully rescued by you.  They were left behind to continue to live in that horror.  That owner needs to be punished in prison for what he did to those poor horses, and I hope someone called not only the authorities, but every rescue organization in the area to try to save those abused horses, and put that owner's sorry butt in jail for many years to come.  God Bless you, my dear - and God Bless Junior as well.

11 Jul 2012 6:25 PM
Paula Higgins

Thank you Mike Relva. Min. Kid you can dish it out buddy but you sure can't take it. I am so glad no one offered you 10 million for your dog. You know, the one that you think about every day since he/she passed away (I am very sorry about that by the way). The only one with self righteousness issues is you. Reread your first post with the blinkers off. Glad you are taking care of your horse :).

11 Jul 2012 7:03 PM
Paula Higgins

Triple Crown Karen, a wonderful story. You are a pretty impressive person. Thank GOD for people like you.

11 Jul 2012 7:04 PM
robinm

While I am very touched by her story and applaud action taken by TripleCrownKaren, the circumstances surrounding the sale of her horse and the sale of I'll Have Another have no similarity.  IHA is going to a respected breeder and if anyone questions the quality of care of horses at Big Red Farm, they can visit the website and hopefully, be reassured.  Likewise, the fact Mine That Bird is a gelding, makes the circumstances of his retirement totally different than that of IHA.

Slew, c/rock and sceptre all make very good points.  Bottom line is that Mr. Reddam has the absolute right to make decisions regarding the purchase, careers and sale of his horses. I understand the expressions of sadness and dismay that IHA will not be staying in America, but I do not understand why people feel they have a right to tell Mr Reddam how to run his business.

11 Jul 2012 8:36 PM
Linda in Texas

Thanks Slew - you always come to the rescue. In a nice and sane way.

And no woodshade hasn't been on here long enough to know lots of things that is for sure.

Linda (not the name of my street

and i am not a Dr. either)

11 Jul 2012 8:37 PM
Alysheba4ever

It's always about the money. Sorry, no sympathy from me for Mr. Reddam. I had high hopes that he would keep him here in the states and maybe if lucky he would keep him in the state he did his most running and where I live...California.  But alas no...not even California. Greed wins out every time...lets not forget Sunday Silence. North America loses again. The fans lose again. I thought highly of Mr. Reddam at one time but not any more.

11 Jul 2012 8:38 PM
Ranagulzion

TripleCrownKaren,

Quite a touching story and a great read about your beloved horse "Junior". Reminds me of a verse of Scripture "A righteous man/woman has regard for the life of his/her animal, but even the compassion of the wicked is cruel" (Proverbs 12:10 New American Standard Bible).

The court of Public opinion is truly awesome on this blog. It appears that the horrific butchering of Kentucky Derby winner Ferdinand (the beautiful chesnut son of Nijinsky) in Japan will not be in vain.  

11 Jul 2012 8:45 PM
pepper

Thank-you Mr. Reddam for your side of this story. I was very sad when I heard he wouldn't be in the Belmont I believe with all my heart he was the one to make racing history. He had the heart of a champion!!I am glad that your love and compassion for him did not think of send him back to run and possibly face the unthinkable.I am sorry that our breeders did not see his worth and I do understand the financial decision. I hope that he is a great sire and I hope you will keep watch on him so that at the conclusion of his stallion duties he will be brought home to be shared with all of his fans.I have visited his sire on several occasions and they were very proud that his colt was a derby contender. I have a love for all these beautiful athletes.I will be remembering IHA and following any news of him for a very long time.

11 Jul 2012 9:31 PM
CJ Rules

Hi Paul, I've just spent about an hour reading/reviewing the blogs below.  Very interesting.  Question:  Do you read them?  Do you even have the time?  Most are quite positive.  Some very educational & others  illuminating.  I'm not a horse person, though I appreciate & admire them as the tremendous athletes they are (in addition to  being beautiful!).  Whatever IHA's future in Japan, I hope the coming years are good for him.  And for you,as well.  Yes, there has been some bad press.  But, there has been much positive press as well.  However, it's true that reality usually exists somewhere in the middle.  Best wishes to you & your team.  May your collective futures be bright with success & love --- and perhaps the arrival to your stables, as others have said, of IHA's babies.  Best Wishes, CJ.

11 Jul 2012 9:38 PM
Mike Relva

CAMELOT IN THE ST.LEGER

Continue living in "Walter Mitty" land. Think I figured out your former alias earlier Billy.

11 Jul 2012 9:47 PM
CharlieCigar

Kudos for scratching the day before the race once the results of the scan were in and consulting with the vet.  Some people would keep calling in vets for opinions until they heard what they wanted to hear, or hope for an overnight miracle. I am pretty sure the leg was inflamed after his morning gallop the day before the Belmont Stakes from- get ready for this... "running!"  Had I'll Have Another ran in the Belmont the best case scenario would have been seeing him eased on the far turn a la Big Brown.  Worst case scenario, Eight Bells type catastrophic breakdown, lying on the track and waiting for the vet to come with the coup de grace.

11 Jul 2012 10:17 PM
Dr Drunkinbum

When does the Derby Dozen blog start again? It's the greatest blog since the wildly popular "Stretching Your Meals" blog of the 1930's.

11 Jul 2012 10:24 PM
Jenna M.

"Of course, if the horse was ever to become available we would buy him back."

How? How would this happen? There was no mention of a buy-back clause or anyone making sure someone checks in on the horse on a regular basis. That is why people are spooked that this horse could go overseas and somehow get lost in the shuffle.

Yes. $10 million was paid for a horse but there's no crystal ball to tell us he'll be bred successfully. No one knows.

And that's what people are scared of. It is very kind of Mr. Reddam to come forth. That beautiful horse also made him a great deal of money.

11 Jul 2012 10:27 PM
Paula Higgins

Interesting that the other vets. have basically said that the New York Times (once again) was full of garbage and that IHA was treated properly. Glad to see IHA's connections vindicated on that. It's really a shame that the New York Times missed the Salem witch trials by about 300+ years. They would have been right in their element. They are such an emlightened bunch.

11 Jul 2012 10:58 PM
Needler in Virginia

Now that the NYT report has hit the streets, the cheese is gonna get a bit more binding, don't you think? All these statements of support for Mr Reddam could begin to dry up as an accurate timeline is established regarding I'll Have Another's health on the Derby trail (and before). Sad, sad, sad and he damn near had a lot of us drinking the Kool-Aid. Me? I'm not a fan of Kool- Aid, and after watching, attending, and reading about racing for most of my 66 years, I'm probably the world's crabbiest cynic... not without justification, either, it seems.............

11 Jul 2012 11:21 PM
Racingfan

Thank you Steve and thank you Mr Reddam.  You did not have to share this information with us and I for one appreciate it a lot!  I am sorry to hear that some people still want to be negative and disbelieving, as if it is even any of their business. I also have to laugh at those who say they wouldn't have taken 10 million for him when they will not see that amount money in their entire lives!  I was personally so sad when I'll Have Another was scratched because I was sure after the Derby that he was going to win the Triple Crown.  That being said however, I was happy that an injured horse was not going to run. I do wish though that we had heard the extent of the injury at the time and not just that it was "tendonitis".  I was also very disappointed to hear that he is going to Japan but I understand the reasoning - not that it matters at all what "I" think....  Probably the biggest disappointment of all is that the American breeders let him get away.  Things like this make me wish even more that I had the breeding farm of my dreams as I would have been happy to have him!

12 Jul 2012 12:32 AM
Racingfan

On another note, can't somebody do something about all the BS that the New York Times keeps publishing about racing?  Steve...maybe a rebuttal article? Don't know how we could get it on their front page but it sure would be nice!

12 Jul 2012 12:35 AM
Merlot

As a racing fan for my years, I am torn between the love of animals and what actually goes into racing. I cancelled my Del Mar trip because I cannot stand so many of this horses running through pain doped up with pain killers just like IHA.  I find it gross that 2 days before the Belomnt, he was given 2 very strong pain meds knowing about his tendon problems all spring.  Both men are disgusting and in a few years, we will be reading about how he turned up dead in a slaughthouse because the Japanese DON'T CARE about animals. The kill dolphins ( The Cove -documentary )

tigers ( organs believed to cure ailments ) elephants ( tusks ) and sharks ( fin soup )  He ran a 5 million winner Lava Man after a year of retirnement only to run last and return to his groom after the race with blood all over his legs from clipping/cuts. HE DOESN'T CARE  

12 Jul 2012 3:13 AM
joepo

To Mr. Reddam: You did the right thing by IHA to scratch him from the Belmont. Even a small tear in his tendon was too much of a risk to his health to run him in a grueling 1 1/2 mile race against the likes of Union Rags and Paynter. I don't blame you at all for selling him to Japan, considering the USA offers were only in the 3 million dollar range vs. the 10 million that you got. I really hope that you do buy several IHA colts and race them in California. I'd love to be reading a racing program in a few years from now and see that the horses father is IHA. You should be proud of his 2 stellar performances vs. Bodemeister in the KY Derby and the Preakness. IHA is the ONLY horse in the stellar history of the KY derby that has ever won from the daunting #19 post. I was fortunate enough to have cashed a IHA/Bodemeister exacta ticket on KY Day. Wish I didn't toss Dullahan on Derby Day. Dullahan liked Churchill downs after all. Would have made for a nice trifecta. But hitting the exacta made my day, thats for sure!        To Steve Haskin: Keep up the Good work Steve! I love your Derby Dozen Coverage. Thanks for getting involved in getting Mr. Reddam to address exactly what happenned in the IHA story.  To: Dr Hansen: I know you are reading this because you have written a comment about the IHA decision in this blog. Hansen is dynamite up to 1 1/8. I had the winning trifecta in the BC Juvenile in 2011. That must have been a proud day for you! Congrats! I'm hoping though that you point Hansen to the BC Dirt Mile. This is a race that he can win. Shackleford should also be in this race, proving a valiant threat. Hope that Dale Romans does not get bull headed and go for the Classic. Uncle Mo couldn't get 1 1/4 and neither can Shackelford.

12 Jul 2012 4:32 AM
ksweatman9

If I find myself responding to this issue again, I may have to seek a psychotherapy. My question was answered as to whether or not some type of buy back clause was included in the contract. That would be a resounding NO. That also answers a whole host of subsequent questions. Perhaps some bleeding heart in Japan will call you before I'll Have Another is minced into table servings, perhaps, but then again, better for "Red" if they call someone who cares. You don't leave something like that to chance if you really care, Mr. Reddham. Would you send a child to Japan under those circumstances? Would you send your DOG? I'm not going to just pick on you, this is a problem across the board. Why is it that race horses are expected to turn a profit with every last drop of blood in their bodies? Most people treat their dogs well, and they repay us by barking at the postman, cleaning up our dinner plates, and occasionally  leaving us a surprise on the carpet. Cats are costly also, and they let us know that they are doing US a favor by tolerating us. I give to several wildlife charities, and I'm aware that the animals I'm trying to save would devour me in a New York minute if given the chance. So please forgive me if I find it hard to accept the lack of compassion and concern many owners have for the noble thoroughbreds that run their hearts out to keep money in their owner's bank accounts. I don't begrudge anyone of making a living, but how much is enough? A horse that nearly won the triple crown like Smarty Jones did, put alot of bread and butter on someone's table, didn't he win enough money to cover his future living expenses? Is it really necessary to shuttle him to nowhere land in order to squeeze a cent from every fiber of his being? The world is composed of two types of people, givers and takers. When we meet our creator we'll see how it all pays off.

12 Jul 2012 4:46 AM
Slew

No problem, Linda.  You know I love the good "Doctor". (and a drink now and then)

I think so many people have become enamored with the gutsy little I'll Have Another, they think of him as a pet.  "Say goodnight, Gracie."  (old tv show reference for those who don't remember radio.)

IHA is a professional athlete, and a full stallion.  He's only 3 years old, and has a lot more testosterone building.  He's not meant for anyone's backyard.  He needs a strict regimen in diet, exercise, and daily routines.  Big Red farms will provide exactly that.  By next year, he will meet his first mare.  Once that happens, he will be so full of himself that even a Lava Man couldn't keep him under control.  That's why a breeding farm, with the right expertise, is so necessary to his future.

Jenna M: If you return to previous comments, you will find out how to keep track of IHA at Big Red Farms yourself.  All of the web sites are listed by previous commenters.

And MR. Reddam would not be able to re-purchase IHA unless it was in the contract...since he can, I assume it is.

12 Jul 2012 8:33 AM
Slew

Merlot: Lava Man has the temperament of a boy named Slew.  I saw that comeback race...did you?  The Man had so much fire, he dragged both his grooms through the paddock and out to the track, barely allowing the jockey time to mount.  Once he got to the track, he strutted to the gate.  When the gates flew open, Lava Man flew down the track.  He led that race for a mile, but then faded.  My only problem was that I felt the race was too long, and too stacked with tough talent for a first time come back.

As much as a pet that he seems to be in shedrow, when he steps hoof on a track, he demands the attention.  Lava Man is the only lead pony I've ever seen who needed a lead pony of his own.  And when IHA started acting up one day on the way to the track, Lava Man turned around and whacked IHA with his head.  IHA settled down immediately.

I actually started following IHA for one reason only...I knew Lava Man would take him to the track.  I kept wanting IHA to win, because then I'd see the Man again.  However, along the way, I started noticing the gutsy determination of the little chestnut.  He began to impress me more with each outing....and I became a fan of his...all because of Lava Man.

And if you want to believe the NY Times, that's your prerogative, but you might have read the Bloodhorse article on the NY Times story before you started your rant.

12 Jul 2012 8:57 AM
Mike Relva

Merlot

Regarding Lava Man I didn't care for the way he was handled,especially after his last win. A certain blog host that's recently left took me to task when I suggested that his comeback was foolish and unrealistic. As for IHA, he didn't need to be in the gate if wasn't sound. As for going to Japan, it's a disgrace.

12 Jul 2012 9:38 AM
Karen in Texas

Merlot----What are you saying? STD Stable and Jason Wood owned Lava Man, not Paul Reddam.

12 Jul 2012 9:46 AM
sceptre

Needler In Virginia:

You say you've been reading about racing for most of your 66 years. Did you happen to miss yesterday's veterinary rebuttals of the latest N Y Times piece?...I'm not anti-NY Times in general, and think there was merit to much of their previous articles, but this last one-on IHA's pre-Belmont vet work-appears to lack proper research and shows some irresponsibility. Too bad, because allows many now to dismiss the basic message of their previous work. Not too unlike what happens with PETA whose small blunders/inaccuracies often overshadow the validity and meaningfullness of their larger message.  

12 Jul 2012 10:22 AM
Karen in Indiana

Slew, ditto all that. I paid attention to IHA because I was looking to see Lava Man. Even though I was one of those that really didn't want Lava Man to make a comeback, after closely watching him since then, he doesn't act like a horse with physical issues. He bounces and looks happy and really seems to love his job. If he had been run into the ground or pushed way too hard, he would not look as good or as happy as he does now. He is Lava Man! even as a pony.

12 Jul 2012 10:35 AM
robinm

I am really surprised that "long time racing fans" would believe an article published in the New York Times, a decidedly "non-racing" publication over that of The Blood- Horse well known for accurately reporting on the Thorougbred race industry, both good and bad.

It seems some people only want to believe the very worst of everyone and somehow get off on predicting the worst future possible for (in this case) IHA, whether or not justified or substantiated.

12 Jul 2012 11:21 AM
Love 'em all

Glad 'Slew' and a couple of others set Merlot straight about Lava Man.  

Lava Man is one of the very lucky ones ... and he shows it.  Why?  Because his connections cared enough to make his life happy once again ... on and off the track.  Lava Man will always be a winner to his many fans.  Wish all retired racers were as happy as Lava Man.  

And, LM has good reasons to strut his stuff ... and he knows it.  He's a very happy and well-loved horse.  

12 Jul 2012 11:35 AM
Linda in Texas

You are to be believed Slew, I love your take on all things you speak about. Especially my main love, Seattle Slew and all those who come after him who were as sassy, i.e. Lava Man.

For those not happy that Lava Man was unretired, he was brought back to race because he is in such good shape. He is so full of himself even now that after he retired he was not himself and the owners thought it might make him happier to race. So they brought him back to race. He did not finish first, to put it in a nice way. But he knows the track is his home, and he loves his job and we love him. The people who care for him love him just as much as the rest of us do. My favorite video of him is walking the shedrow and stopping to help himself to the oat bin. Not once but a couple of times. Tell me they don't think or have a personality and i will refer you to him.

Long live Lava Man and the 'chutzpah' you radiate.

(woodshade, you may have to look that word up.)

12 Jul 2012 12:06 PM
Wrensflight

Well, Steve, you have started quite the mudslinging match with this one! Of course, Paul Reddam has the right to make his own business decisions. On the other hands, fans have the right to vociferously express their feelings about those decisions - just as if, for example, the Red Sox had traded Carl Yastrzemski to the Yankees (God forbid!). After all, that's what blogs are for. If Reddam had not wanted to hear what racing fans and IHA's fans had to say, he should not have opened himself up for commentary with this blog. Glad to hear, Paula, Dr. D., and TripleCrownkaren, that there are other folks out there who consider their animals to be family members. Unfortunately, most racing owners are more businessmen than horsemen and make decisions based on financial merit. Is it their right to do so? Absolutely. Is it the fans' right to express their opinions on the matter? Absolutely.

12 Jul 2012 12:34 PM
no hurry

Where to begin.......Sometimes I think the horse racing industry is its own worst enemy. Do not get me wrong fans are what keeps any sport going but should fans dictate the industry's next move? No offense to any fans out there because I am one myself...BUT.... If you do not know what it is like to be in the buisness its self do not attack...trainers...owners or anyone unless you truly understand what is going on. Racing needs to do what is best for racing..not to make people who think its all playing with pretty horses all day happy. If Baseball, football, basketball, made big headlines everytime aplayer was injured, or was using legal or illeagal supplements holy crap!!! There are sooo many wonderful people in this buisness who love their animals and jobs, and they have to because its  a lot of hard work.

...On Ill Have Another....which ever side you want to take on the Triple Crown is your opinon, all things told, yes very disappointing. As far as Japan...I would have loved to have kept him here, but if the intrest truly was not here then it makes perfect sense.Bodemeister already has a stud career waiting and he got beat down TWICE by IHA. American breeders want speed, well guess what perhaps that is why no Triple Crown-oops I said it! Remember backin the day when they bred for speed and stamina? Good luck in Japan to IHA I am sure he will fair well.

12 Jul 2012 1:28 PM
Meydan Rocks

PS: (Right or wrong)...

As we beat Japan over the head with the minced meat angle, this is going on in our very own backyard.

www.bloodhorse.com/.../asmussen-mares-now-at-remember-me-rescue

12 Jul 2012 3:09 PM
c/rock

For the last time:  Bodemeister is by Empire Maker, who won the Belmont and was second in the Derby. His dam is by Storm Cat; his second dam is by A.P. Indy, who won the Belmont and the Breeder's Cup Classic. Bode's third dam is by Roberto, who won the Epsom Derby; his fourth dam is Nijinsky, who won the English Triple Crown. If this is not a pedigree loaded with stamina, please show me one!!

12 Jul 2012 3:28 PM
Slew

Meydan Rocks:  I love that so many just can't get Ferdinand off their mind, and can't forgive the Japanese for one mistake.  I'm guessing they also forgot the USA dropped 2 atom bombs on Japan in 1945, on purpose.  We gave the bombs "cute" names...Little Boy and Fat Man.  Over 200,000 people died from the immediate effects, many later succumbed to radiation poisoning.

Somehow, the scales seem quite out of balance.

I'm guessing they forgave us on that score since I drive a Toyota, have a Sony Play Station II, and fish with Shimano rods and reels.

Time to get over the xenophobia folks, and look at the bigger picture. Time to educate yourself on other cultures.

12 Jul 2012 3:44 PM
Soldier Course

Re: Jersey Boy @ 11July12 1:30

Regarding your query about a difference in tone: No Kentucky Derby winner has ever been sent to slaughter in England, France, or Australia.

Re: Did someone change the subject?

Isn't this the real issue: When was I'll Have Another FIRST diagnosed with tendonitis? I watched Brian Williams' report on NBC News last night and came away with the impression that IHA had been diagnosed with tendonitis at some point(s) prior to the runup to the Belmont Stakes. I also was left with the impression that he may have been allowed to race after a diagnosis of tendonitis.

The information and professional opinions about IHA's treatment regimen prior to the Belmont Stakes are nothing but red herrings in my opinion, if the horse had ever been diagnosed with tendonitis before the week of the Belmont Stakes.

12 Jul 2012 4:03 PM
Shutterbug

Penny Chenery was way ahead of the curve when she made her public comment around Preakness-time about Paul Reddam...

You want to know what real love and APPRECIATION for what your racehorse, livestock, property (or however you would like to refer to a race horse as) looks like?  Well, just take a gander at the way Dr. Dedomenico is treating his champion mare Blind Luck.  He shelled out millions (shocking behavior!!) to BUY her out from the partnership, and then, rather than sell her as a commodity (like pork bellies) to Japenese interests merely for the sound of (MORE) gold coin jangling in his pocket, he keeps her on his west coast farm (yes, just like a backyard pet, of all things.)  He flew her out to KY to be bred to Bernardini, and then back home to his farm to gestate under his watchful and loving eye.  And there are many other examples of horses shown care and appreciation by their owners... Zenyatta, Well Armed, Aggie Engineer, etc.  Now, just for fun, let's contrast the "loving" owner Paul Reddam's treatment of a horse that did what the vast, vast majority of owners can only dream of, he won the KENTUCKY DERBY for Paul Reddam.  The day after Haskin's blog interview appeared, Reddam admits in the DRF exactly what I personally discerned from his interview with Steve, and that is that rather than "rolling the dice" on IHA's future, he chose to cash in his chips with full knowledge that he will never see the horse again.    

12 Jul 2012 4:57 PM
JerseyBoy

Soldier Course:

Harbinger is an all-time great. He retired with a Timeform ranking of 140.

I’ll Have Another is not in the same league as Harbinger.

The British did not raise hell when Harbinger was sold for stud duty in Japan. They reacted just about the same way Americans reacted when Belmont winner and Kentucky Derby runner-up Empire Maker was sold for stud duty in Japan. But I get your point.

12 Jul 2012 5:14 PM
Freetex

I am going to keep reading each and every post on this blog.  Currently, my feelings are all over the place.  I must say Dr. Drunkinbum, Paula Higgins, Mike Relva, Linda in Texas, and Ole Railbird have addressed IHA's sale and Mr. Reddam's actions with IHA most impressively, at least to me.

If we all knew for sure there was a buyback clause for IHA in the sale contract most of us would calm down a bit.  Its still distressing all the commotion around our red horse.  Yes, I said our red horse, its not realistic its how I believe we all feel.

12 Jul 2012 5:28 PM
Needler in Virginia

sceptre, I DID read the BH article first, then the NYT article came later. I accept what the vets said but find it a bit disingenuous, too. Of COURSE the treatment was within parameters for a horse with that condition/injury but since the horse was supposedly "sound" until the tendon was "discovered" right before the Belmont, one wonders just when the injury was discovered and how long I'll Have Another had actually been treated. THEN we hear he's not only scratched but retired and zip! pop! sold away. Nah, the whole thing still stinks, sceptre, and there's nothing anyone can say to make me trust Reddam's sad song about how much he "loved" the horse. Color me cynical, but you already knew that, didn't you??

Thanks, though, for trying to save the face of the whole episode. You're DEFINITELY more trusting than I.

12 Jul 2012 6:14 PM
Mike Relva

Solider Course

Enjoyed reading your comments over the years.

12 Jul 2012 6:57 PM
Mike Relva

Freetex

Thank you

12 Jul 2012 7:10 PM
Alex'sBigFan

Include me amongst the ranks of those who have family pets and think of them as family members.  Our dog, Betsy, a 15 yr. old labrador/shepherd mix was just on TV all over the weekend!  She appeared with her doctor on a show called "The PetStop" on News 12 in NJ with her doctor, Dr. Dean Cerf, of Ridgewood Veterinary Hospital in Ridgewood, N.J., who is first in the world for developping laser treatment for TCC, transitional cell carcinoma, which Betsy has of the bladder.  There is no amount of money I would sell Betsy for.  Some of "The PetStop" segments are on YouTube but as yet I am not aware of Betsy's segment being posted on it.  Her prognosis is good and she will probably be scheduled for her 4th laser surgery in a few months.  Dr. Cerf and my brother and I have kept her alive and extended her life.  She was my dad's (who you all know just passed) 4th child, as we kidded him because he spoiled Betsy so much.  Betsy is definitely a family member.  And wasn't it Mike Repole who said that Mo and Thirsty were extended family members too?

When we think of A.P. Indy, don't we automatically think he belongs to Lenny?  And Seattle Slew certainly is "owned" by our Slew, Fran and I are gaga over Alex, and for sure El Kabong is Tapit's crusader, and when we see a beautiful gray well doesn't it belong to Linda in Texas?  Zenyatta has taken up residence in the corners of all of our hearts too.  My point is that IHA in a sense is "ours."  Any owner who puts his horse out there for the world to behold is giving up part of it emotionally, he's sharing it with the world even though assuming all financially responsibility for it.  I know that is on some high, romanticized level, but in a sense we feel they are "ours."  Look at all of these blogs and how attached we are to our thoroughbreds and how defensive we get for all of them.

Slew,

I loved your piece on Lava Man.  I hear what you are saying about broadening one's cultural knowledge.  There can't be anyone too much more broad minded culturally than me.  I have relatives of German, Hungarian, and Armenian descent.  I am married to a Moroccan.  I majored in French in college and minored in Spanish.  I live in NJ, 30 minutes outside of Manhattan in a virtual melting pot.  I am very broad minded culturally, have travelled enough of Europe, etc. and I have seen maybe "too much."  Even though we are still in a bad econimic state of affairs in the USA, it is still by far the best country in the world in which to live.  I don't know if we all would feel differently if IHA was sold to France, or Australia.  Henny Hughes, top US sprinter in 2006, is now going to live in Australia and I'm not happy about it.  I believe Darley, where Henny lives, has an Australian affiliate so he might still be under Darley's jurisdiction, and Darley has a Japan venue as well.  But as far as IHA goes, still after reading many of these great posts, I still feel he, a would be Triple Crown winner, should stand here and represent this great country where his well-being could be monitored by those that love him.  And I have worked in a major Japanese owned New York corporation for 15 years, I like the Japanese a lot, it's nothing against Japan.  Agreed, IHA certainly does not belong in a backyard, he belongs in a professional breeding facility setting. I would imagine the initial transition will be hard on IHA and what if in 5 years or so he's not turning out stakes winner after stakes winner?  What then?

It is mind boggling that breeders here want Bode, but not IHA.  And they are not breeding for speed? If I was a breeder or owner, I would much rather have a possible TC winner with endurance than a fly-by-night speedball.

12 Jul 2012 7:36 PM
sceptre

Needler in Virginia:

While I think it's good to be a skeptic re-all things pertaining to horses, the evidence here, or lack thereof, shouldn't be overlooked just for the sake of skepticism. I think your statement " Of course the treatment was within parameters for a horse with that condition/injury..." points to what you're missing here. Fact is, those listed "treatments" are very common to almost all racehorses-not just those with suspected tendon/soft tissue issues. That's where the insufficiently informed N Y Times journalists got it wrong-and what you also bought into.  

12 Jul 2012 7:46 PM
Needler in Virginia

Last one, sceptre; I KNOW the treatments are common. "Almost all racehorses" are not my issue. I"ll Have Another's condition and treatment are the issue, and I still think the circumstances are fishy but that probably the truth will never be known. I didn't "buy into" anything. I've followed this all along and find the arc of events very troubling; there are HUGE discrepancies in what we've been told. Fact is, IHA is sold away after a distinctly bizarre week before the Belmont; there is much evidence that the horse had issues long before he stepped into stall 19 at Churchill and we're not ever gonna know the truth of any of this. While I'm not entitled to know Mr Reddam's business, I do think the punters are entitled to know the true condition of the horse that very likely could have won the Triple Crown and on which they were asked to bet their dollars. There's many more than me who feel deceived; that is NOT the face that racing needs right now. I know stats can be skewed, as can political polls, grade point averages, and the number of cookies the kid really did eat, but if the NYT article were only 1/3 true there would STILL be far more smoke than there should be. Looks like we'll have to agree to disagree.

Done.

13 Jul 2012 2:27 AM
Cassandra.Says

If the fibers in a tendon tear, it is at full stretch and they fly apart. They never, not ever, join up again.

When they heal, they are likely to adhere to the undamaged fibers next to them, so they will tear again, and also they compromise the function of the untorn fibers.

The horse becomes "racing sound" (and not always) when the torn fibers randomly wind up lying in the correct up-and-down alignment instead of crosswise. They are still not functional but at least they are not going to rip when the horse is put back into training.

At the very best, the horse is now running on a tendon that has fewer functional fibers than it used to have -- and it tore before without this damage -- this is why some of you have read that the horse is unlikely to come back as good as it was originally.

And these 'micro events' in soft tissue are not precisely observable and evaluable, unless imaging is much better than it was in the good old days when I was around the barn.

13 Jul 2012 4:49 AM
Cassandra.Says

The horse that leads all the way is tested for stamina much more severely than the horse that comes from behind. If it chucks it in at the quarter pole that's one thing, but if it fights back and finishes in a photo with a horse coming from behind, the horse that almost makes it wire-to-wire has the most stamina.

13 Jul 2012 4:57 AM
CHIEF PICAWINNA

With the state of racehorse ownership in the US its no wonder the sport has and will continue to go down hill.I like sports in general and I participate myself so I wont tell you I told you so.To even concieve that what is called handicapping(I call it horseplayer)is an intellectual pursuit is a joke with every thing the horses are injesting,and the resulting medication form cycles.This is mostly a business taken out of realm of sport many years ago.

13 Jul 2012 7:34 AM
Slew

ABF: I do hear what you are saying.  In my heart, the highest plateau belongs to Slew, and no one else, though Citation does occasionally nip at his heels.  He was Alexander AND Bucephalus, all rolled into one.  His intelligence always astounded me.  His independence was fierce.  And yet...I have never felt any ownership, nor did I have any say in his management, even though I disagreed with it at times.  I simply respect boundaries.  It was never my place to tell owners or trainers what they should do with their horse.  I never considered Slew to be a pet, as much as I loved him.  I always knew he was an athlete and a Champion.  I never put a cent into his birth, training, or stud value.  I never earned the right to tell the owners what they should do. (even when they ditched Turner which to me was unthinkable).  It's a matter of respecting boundaries.  Perhaps I just grew up in a different time and age, when respect was more important than it is today, and boundaries were more defined.  That's why I find many comments rude and self-important.  (plus I'm horrified by the Japan-bashing, especially since their culture is thousands of years older than our own).

And even though I never owned Slew, he always owned me.

13 Jul 2012 8:29 AM
an ole railbird

 to who it may concern:

 if you are not knowledgeable enough to look at bodemiesters pedigree & see that he is more route, than speed. then you should not be writing in any blog, about pedigree. because you are in over your head. & to post your incorrect opinion, to say that he is bred for speed only, is merely wasting space in the blog. and spreading untruths, & showing your limitations, of being able to seperate truth ,from rumors.

 its an old but true saying,  "its better to keep your mouth shut& look dumb. than to open your mouth & remove all doubt".

   have a nice day

  "an ole railbird"

13 Jul 2012 9:12 AM
an ole railbird

 would someone who is familar with the formula, of pedigrees, please compare the influnce speed & route. in both the pedigrees of ill have another & bodemiester. and please post the results. this is 1 childish argument that needs to be settled, once & for all!!!

have a nice day.

   "an ole railbird"

13 Jul 2012 9:19 AM
Steel Dragon

I'll have another topic...

13 Jul 2012 10:58 AM
woodshade

Linda in Texas,

 Girl do you really have the "Audacity,Nerve, and Gull" to think I don't know what Chutzpah means? I am a walking dictionary.

13 Jul 2012 11:48 AM
sceptre

I think it would be just fine if every detail of a racehorses' veterinary, and non-veterinary care was, at all times along their careers, made public. Should this ever happen (which it won't) there would likely be such an outcry as to a) force a far more ongoing comprehensive scrutiny of the racehorses' physical well-being, and/or b) the abolishment of the sport. This is the logical true bottom line consequence for the skeptical rhetoric offered by many here in the matter of I'll Have Another. I doubt that most in this group of naysayers would accept this conclusion-and that's but one hypocrisy.

"an ole railbird":

I, too, tend to appreciate your posts, so I'll attempt to respond to your IHA vs Bodemeister pedigree question. First of all, there is no set "formula" for such things, rather it involves a thorough analysis of each horses' racing performance and, to some degree its physical makeup (even more subjective)-both phenotypic parameters-, together with pedigree, which is no more than "names" and as such are only hints (as are the racing performances and physical makeup) of what is the true genotype (genetic composition) of the breeding prospect. It is this genotype which determines, among other things, the stallions', etc. true aptitude (distance proclivities) both as racehorse and breeding horse. Despite the certainty expressed by some here, it's my opinion that the siring aptitudes of IHA vs Bodemeister are far from clear cut. For example, while Bodemeister's sire, Empire Maker, tends to be a stamina influence, Bodemeister's Storm Cat dam was a precocious speedy sort, but her racing career was limited, and she did place (in her final start) in a top 1 1/16 ths mile stakes. Her production record (another barometer) is too limited to help us further. Much of the tail-female of Bodemeister is speed-oriented (re-names in pedigree). As we know, it is random as to which genes are inherited from the ancestors, so without an ability to "read" the genotypes of the decendants we must instead attempt to carefully study their respective racing performances and produce. The apparent (visual) aptitude of the racehorse in question is alone often a poor forecast of what to come. There are countless examples in the history of the breed to confirm this. Graustark-mentioned in Steve's previous blog, is but one example of a very speedy performer who, instead, tended to sire "distance". Keep in mind also that today's breeders tend to covet precocity, and here IHA demonstrated a bit more (yes, Bodemeister had his excuses) than did Bodemeister. The up-close pedigree (all else equal, the closer-up, the more impact expressed) of IHA is relatively lacking in data, but doesn't to my mind suggest the makings of a one-dimensional stayer-type, nor did IHA's performances as a racehorse. I would say, however, as things presently stand (subject to change more in the case of IHA, due to the relative lack of data for Flower Alley as a stallion), that Bodemeister is the better bred of the two. Bodemeister also evidenced a relatively high cruising speed-at distances-, but I offer as example, Vaguely Noble, who had the ability to employ similar tactics, albeit over longer/turf. My guess is that neither IHA, nor Bodemeister, will be sprint-type sires, but hard to say whose get will be better suited to middle or longer distances.        

13 Jul 2012 12:29 PM
Linda in Texas

woodshade, you are a good sport. Things have been a little wild and up in the air horse racing and horse wise lately. I guess your question to Dr. D just made me laugh. Don't be so defensive. If i didn't like you i wouldn't waste my time. I am no doubt quite a tad older than you are and i probably have less time left on earth than you do.

But woodshade, it is 'gall' not "gull" as you spelled it. Gall is the arrogance to do something, gull on the other hand is a bird.

Keep trying, you will get it right.

Alex'sBigFan- you were firing on all cylinders with your latest post.

And my favorite subject was your dad's dog, Betsy. Just about sums up everything i ever imagined about where your heart is. Shows in everything you write.

And long live Betsy and Holy Bull!

Holy Bull is a gray you know.:)

Thanks Steve. Glad you changed the subject. But then comes the newest one with the mares at Round Mountain in my own home state not but an hour and 10 minutes from me. More work to be done.

Linda

13 Jul 2012 2:11 PM
mz

Woodshade:

Gall?

Gaul? (...divided into 3 parts...)

(...and I came in at the end of when you had to actually take Latin in High School.  I got away with one year of same with the Nuns and then started with Italian, a living language and one that was waaaayyy more useful in Tuscany)

13 Jul 2012 2:58 PM
New Racing Fan

Woodshade,

Thank you for noticing the removal of my post about Reddams wealth. Three other posts I wrote about Reddams wealth and business practices were never posted.

Robinm,

My posts all referenced news articles in major national publications about Raddams business practices.  The quotes were about Reddams business interests and were not biased by anti horse racing sentiment.

 

 

13 Jul 2012 3:20 PM
Steve Haskin

Boycott CC, What does Reddam's business practices have to do with I'll Have Another's injury and retirement and sale to Japan? Your sign-in name, under the safety of anonymity, says all youre trying to say. Reddam's income and your labeling of him has no relevance here. This is a horse racing blog.

13 Jul 2012 3:55 PM
Soldier Course

Mike Relva:

Hi Mike. Good to hear from you, and thanks very much. I should post more regularly and stay in touch with everyone on this blog. But horse racing just seems to be getting more and more emotionally draining.

13 Jul 2012 5:03 PM
Ranagulzion

Sceptre,

I appreciate your very thorough response to "an ole rail bird's" pedigree question. I'd add that both Bodemeister and I'll Have Another, being from the Raise A Native line stand fairly good chances of throwing precocious offsprings but for Bodemeister, having Storm Cat close up on the Dam side does tilt the scales in favour of speed with stamina limitations beyond nine furlongs IMO.

13 Jul 2012 5:45 PM
Needler in Virginia

sceptre, just read your last post and must respond even though I promised to shut up. I, for one, would welcome complete disclosure and that is NOT hypocrisy. If that ever happened, it just MIGHT help weed out many of the horses that aren't fit to run or reproduce, and serve to strengthen the breed as much as is possible. While this blog is not about the overall genetic quality of the Thoroughbred (with apologies to Steve), the end result of full disclosure might, just might help improve that quality a bit. But, as you said it won't ever happen.

NOW I'll really shut up; since nothing will be gained or improved from all this, I probably should never have made that first post. Sorry to have set you off. There are others here who might be interested in a tussle. I'm not.

13 Jul 2012 6:51 PM
sceptre

Ranagulzion:

Raise A Native is 5 generations removed from both IHA and Bodemeister. I think his genetic effect, therefore, is extremely limited. The closer up Storm Cat could have a somewhat speed-exerting effect, but it's likely that a Flower Alley/Distorted Humor offer a bit more speed than does an Empire Maker/Unbridled. But, overfocus on any individual piece can distort what is the elusive true picture. Somewhat like taking ones words out of context-so, at least you're consistent.

13 Jul 2012 6:59 PM
an ole railbird

 sceptre, i certinly do thank you for the analysis you so graciously offered. i respect,(&partly agree) with your opinion.

  & after i ask you to do something that i didnt know how to do.  i (@this time) will not offer anything to debate your opinion.

  as everyone can probally tell, i am new to the skills of the computer,& blogging. but upon discovering this blog & getting involved. i became so disillusioned, that i thought that that was what it was about, was intelligent debate. and that probally was the intent, in the begining. but it has slipped way off track. i personally believe that a bunch of these commentors, (are as i saw them accused) nothing but hecklers, who were planted here to sturr hate & discontent,& spread untrue rumors.

case in point how many times was ferinand brought back up,how many times was it asked "do they have a buy back agreement". i judge that the majiorty of the commenters on this blog are "way yonder more educated" than i. but if it has to be asked "11 times" in a 64 comment blog(in which it was adressed 4 times), if there was a buy back agreement. if the attenion span of educated americans are that short , then horse racing "aint the only thing in trouble"

 mr sceptre (or ms?) i said all that to say that maybe there will be some of the readers of your well written opinion, that will use this to understand why "illhave another" was not desired by the breeders enough to warrant an out landish price for him. # 1 his father is untested as a sire &still a young horse ,himself. #2 his old matneral grandpa is still alive & still a breeder, himself. that also cheapened iha stud value.

 i am going to use the "what if " colmn thats so quickly invoked on this blog. what if iha had stubbed his toe& bodemiester had gotten back by him,bodemiester would have been a winner at a so called"classic distance".  would that make him a sprinter.? bode miester ran the eyes out of all ofthose horses. he was 2nd to iha 2 times. after blazing fractions.

mr bullet bob baffert, reached in to his 2nd string & came with bodemiester,who was as green as you can pull one off the vine. and he was 2nd in 2 of the classics, with a lowly speed horse.

that horse (bodemiester) hadnt had a chance to learn anything but go. now that bullet bob has had sometime to work with him, dont be surprised if he shows up at the next race with a bodemiester that will stalk the pace.

  thanks again (mr or ms) sceptre.

i want to wish all of you a nice day.      "an ole railbird"

13 Jul 2012 7:15 PM
sceptre

an ole railbird,

Actually, I'd welcome hearing more of your take on the IHA vs Bodemeister comparative, and am also curious re- in what "part" you and I may disagree about what their pedigrees, etc. tell us about their relative chances, and why Bodemeister was apparently more favored by KY breeders than IHA. There's nothing absolute in any of this, as many of the answers continue to elude us. If it were otherwise, far more would be in the black in the breeding/racing game. I will disagree with one of your contentions-I doubt very much that Arch's continuing career at stud had any impact on IHA's valuation. On the other hand, I do feel that Empire Maker's exit from the US scene may very well have increased Bodemeister's value. But, as I had mentioned earlier, Bodemeister's connections (his ownership, not including WinStar)-the fact that they'll support him heavily with quality mares-likely also added somewhat to his valuation. How I may regard their relative chances for stallion success or, to a lesser degree, how I view their siring aptitudes, is not necessarily how other breeders may view them. That said, I'm fairly confident that had IHA been sired by Empire Maker, and Bodemeister been sired instead by Flower Alley-with all else the same-, IHA would not be going to Japan.      

13 Jul 2012 9:16 PM
robinm

Boycott CashCall; my comments were not directed to you but rather to "long-time racing fans" on this blog.  Your comments lead me to believe that you do not qualify as such and frankly, like Steve, I don't see that bashing Mr. Reddams's business practises have any place on this blog.

13 Jul 2012 10:02 PM
New Racing Fan

As a New Racing Fan I find it interesting that no one links reduced interest in IHA as a Sire to the fact of the injury itself.  If a Sire transfers characteristics such as speed or endurance wouldn't it be considered that he would also transfer a tendency toward his own specific injury.

13 Jul 2012 10:17 PM
robinm

I love Candy; There is a vast difference between the management of a retired broodmare and a retired stud.  However, both mare owners and stallion owners expect to gain financially, either from the offspring of a mare, or the sale or stud fees of a stallion.  There is a risk to a mare every time she is shipped across country to be bred in KY and then shipped back home.  There is a risk to every mare when foaling.  There is a risk when a stallion is sold, whether to a breeder in KY or in Japan, but if you don't have a breeding facility, that is exactly what must happen, in all fairness to the stallion, to give him the best opportunity to succeed at stud.  Mr Reddam will have the same opportunity to visit IHA in Japan as he would if he were sold to a farm in KY.  Who are you to say that he won't?

13 Jul 2012 11:17 PM
Alex'sBigFan

Slew,

Beautifully stated.  You are right too, they do own us!  Seattle Slew was one of the amazing ones alright.  He's legendary.

Linda in Texas,

Thanks a bunch!  Betsy is cute, I taught her years ago how to give a "high five paw."  She still remembers it.

I was just reading Dr. Bramlage's commemts and like what he had to say.  He seems like a great doctor, I see him sometimes up on a high platform at the Belmont intensely watching.  Anyway, I was thinking I wonder if IHA injured himself freaking in the stakes barn?  Remember in an article it said IHA reacted or was agitated settling in there and then recently in another article O'Neill said "he could have banged himself."  I wonder if the stakes barn really did the Belmont in this year, just a thought.  Happy weekend all.  I'll be driving by Monmouth Park tomorrow going to relax a little at the shore points.  Two weeks to the Haskell and I'll be in the same area!  Look forward to Steve's Haskell stuff next week!

14 Jul 2012 1:12 AM
ksweatman9

Oh my gosh, how did I miss Dr. Hansen's comment? Brutally honest. You know doc, that white pony of yours would've saddled up to run the Belmont for the crown come hell or high water unless a dozen vets told you, "can't do it". That's okay, it would've taken two dozen vets for me, and it wouldn't have been because I didn't love my horse. If you were to sell your pony to Japan, would you forget to draw up a buy back clause to keep Hansen out of the slaughter house? I doubt it, and I also doubt that Reddham ever "loved" a horse in his life, but that's a mute point. Keep your gorgeous colt safe and sound. One of my very favorite thoroughbreds, Caleb's Posse, is now out of the picture too, so sad. I will miss his closing kick. They seem to fall like dominoes. I hope Hansen will do what most can't, stay healthy. That's a great accomplishment within itself. I wish you many races and many trips to the winner's circle, and I hope Japan doesn't like white horses.

14 Jul 2012 7:55 AM
an ole railbird

good morning world, its a lovely day in arkansas. i hope it is a pretty day where ever you  are.

  mr sceptre, ( i am going to assume you are male ).

  i appreciate your offer to dicuss pedigrees with me. i dont nessesaryly disagree with you. but before i agree with you ,i need to know how you arrived at some of your conculisions.

  1st. how do you justify classing AP INDYS blood lines as speed.

  2nd. i havent heard your opinion of FLOWER ALLEY.  he won @ 11/4 , does this classify him as a router.? how do you count his in flunce?

  i want to state my poisition, of ill have another.

   i wasnt formuliar with him ,until the lewis stakes. ihad a faint knowledge of oneal & com.

after watching the lewis stakes, i classified iha as a race horse in the 1st degree.  i have used him to key several winning  tickets. this year has been the best year for me since betting against big brown in the belmont. & largely because of iha.

 haveing said that,  let me explain that my retirement was based on a HEALTHY horse market. so needless to say i am at a financial disadvantage. each & every horse that i accrue, must offer me some chance @ roi.

 now lets venture over in fanticy land . (yes its the same so many of our beloved fans live in).

  lets say i have a mare thats a full sister to bodemiester, & she has a like racing record to his .

in our fantisy ,iam offered a free stallion service to ill have  another with a free van ride to & from stud farm. i am also offered to a free service from arch, but it does not come with free van service.   i would walk & lead this mare down the side of the hiway to breed to arch!!!

oh i am sure that iha will make some sort of a sire now. the japanese will put enough class mares under him, he will have to get some colts that will run. the law of averages will take care of that. but he would neverget that class of mares to him, had he stood in the states. if it came to me having to make a living with him, (iha). i had rather have him as a partically bowed gelding, to race. than depend on his stud fees  for a living.

if he proves me wrong ,ill eat my words. when in the pursuit of perfection ,for a horse, i do not mind standing corrected , not 1 bit.

mr sceptre, i will await your opinion, with baited breath.

  thanks to all. have a nice day, i remain "an ole railbird".

14 Jul 2012 11:13 AM
JerseyBoy

Discussions about pedigree are always fascinating.

Even when one goes back more than half a century, one can find interesting results.

Take the sire Owen Tudor.

Owen Tudor produced 2 of the all-time greats.

His son Abernant, born 1946, was ranked 142 by Timeform.

His son Tudor Minstrel, born 1944, was ranked 144 by Timeform.

Owen Tudor, born 1938, won the Derby and the Gold Cup. He was a son of Hyperion.

What did Abernant and Tudor Minstrel have in common with Owen Tudor and Hyperion?

Not much.

Abernant was a sprinter. Tudor Minstrel was a miler.

Tudor Minstrel produced the speedball Tudor Melody, a prolific sire of precocious runners.

This is the reason I judge horses by their performance, not their pedigree.

I use pedigree mainly to assess the potential of untested horses.

Good luck to those who think they can predict the outcome of a mating.

Remember Discreetly Mine?

Breeders have a difficult job.

14 Jul 2012 11:23 AM
an ole railbird

  you dont have to waste you time worrying that hansen, might go to the slaughter. slaughter houses shy away from white horses & any horse with no pigment in his skin. because the biggest percentage of them have skin cancer. the carcass will not meet grade & will be used for pet food.

  and no im not a buyer for slaughter houses & have never been. but i realize that the slaughter market is essential, for a healthy horse market. therefore i am broad minded enough to keep track of their likes & dislikes.

have a nice day,

   " an ole railbird".

14 Jul 2012 11:39 AM
sceptre

JerseyBoy,

Your lack of perspective on the history of the breed and thoroughbred pedigrees is well illustrated in your recent post. In your effort to put forth the notion that pedigree has no bearing on performance you have chosen rather poor examples to demonstrate your point. Both Abernant and Tudor Minstrel are rather closely related. Yes, both are sired by Owen Tudor, but they also share one of the most SPEED oriented female families in the stud book-that of Lady Josephine. Abernant, for that matter, has as his 2nd dam, Mumtaz Mahal (known as the "Flying Filly", and for good reason, as she was considered in her day the fleetest of female sprinters), whose dam was Lady Josephine. Incidentally, while Abernant was a champion sprinter, Tudor Minstrel was also brilliantly fast. So, before you consider putting your foot in you mouth again, READ AND LEARN instead.  

14 Jul 2012 1:10 PM
an ole railbird

 about tudor minster & horses that throw strange traits.

 there once was tb stallion, a double bred grand son of tudor minstrel,( equal amount of blood coming from each parent). that had as much cow sense as most of the native texascow horses. it became a desired line to be crossed on quarter horses ,used for cow work. its still alive & well to this day.

 there have been a few tb to have these traits. but they are few & for between. but it has always puzzled me as to where that gene comes from ,in a pure tb line.

  my guess is that is probaly something that we will never know for sure >

  have a nice day.    "an ole railbird".

14 Jul 2012 1:15 PM
JerseyBoy

sceptre:

You could simply have gone to Wikipedia and read before putting both feet in.

Here  is a quote about Owen Tudor:

“Although he had shown his best form in long distance races he sired outstanding performers with a range of aptitudes including the sprinter Abernant, the miler Tudor Minstrel and the middle distance performers Tudor Era and Right Royal.”

How could one have predicted which ones would be sprinters or routers BEFOREHAND? That is the issue. Anyone can predict an outcome the way you did years after the event.

If you had checked you would also have noticed:

“Tudor Minstrel started at odds of 4/7 at Epsom on a cold, wet day in front of an estimated 400,000 spectators including the King and Queen. Doubts about his stamina were countered by those who pointed out that his pedigree contained many good stayers, with one observer stating that Tudor Minstrel could win the race even if he were hitched to a cart”.

He failed to stay. But the connections tried. That is how we know he could not stay.

Whoever you are, there is little you can tell me about the pedigree of horses. I can read.

Where have I ever said “pedigree has no bearing on performance”?

If I have the performance, I rely on the performance not the pedigree.

Do not attribute ideas to me.

By the way, I remember you questioning the idea that horses should qualify for greatness even if they did not win distance races.

Nice to see you remember The Tetrarch.

14 Jul 2012 3:10 PM
Ranagulzion

Sceptre,

My comment regarding the Raise A Native line speaks to precosity i.e. the propensity for early development as 2YO stars and early spring 3YO Triple Crown contenders (not exclusively about speed). Both Bodemeister and I'll Have Another possess pedigrees that are likely to produce precocious offsprings as sires. Empire Maker was a precocious colt whose debut (a winning one) was delayed (October 2002) by the late Bobby Frankel due to soundness issues. Also I wouldn't say that the genetic effect of an influential sire like Raise A Native, appearing in the 5th generation is extremely limited (thats a matter of opinion).

I do like to read your comments on pedigree matters but your posts would make for more pleasant reading if you would resist the temptation to be insulting/condescending to those with whom you are contending, especially when the argument is about differing points of view rather than a misrepresentation of what you wrote. Peace.

14 Jul 2012 4:00 PM
an ole railbird

ok mr sceptre, ill try 1 more time, tocompare notes with you on our discusson of pedigrees. this my third attempt. either the submit button on my computer is not working properly or there is someone in the screening process, that doesnt agree with me.

 i do not completely disagree, with you. but before i agree with you , i want to clairify some things.

  1st, how do you justify calling ap indys blood lines as speed?

  2nd.  what is your opinion of flower alley? due to the fact that flower alley, won going 11/4, do you consider him a router?

  in a previous articule i illustrated my opinion of iha, in what i thought was a nice way. but it never made the post. so let put it another way.

 iwasnt familiar with iha until the running of the lewis stakes. i had only a glimpes of oneil & company. i was faintly familiar with mr reddam. but after seeing iha in the lewis, i knew that he was 1 of the best 3 yr. olds out there.

 mostly due to him, i have had the best year ,gambling, that i have had since big brown got beat in the belmont. i feel like he has the best turn of foot, seen in american racing for several years.

  i also feel like bodemiester, paynter or hansen would make him spit the bit, in 7/8 of a mile if he was sent to the front to duel with them.

last but not least but not least. if iha had belonged to me. there would not have been all this ordeal a bout him going to japan, because i would have GELDED him when he was a 2 year old. & he would have been another kelso.

im sorry but i see nothing  that impresses me to think he will be another mr prospector, or even another candy ride

no doubt, he will get a lot of classey mares, put under him, by the japanese& will produce a few runners. the law of averages are on his side. as long as iha has as many of his male ancestors as he has,still in the breeders market he would not have gotten a big price for a stud fee, in the states.

 sceptre, i await your answer with, baited breath.

 i wish a nice day for all.

" an ole railbird"

14 Jul 2012 4:09 PM
sceptre

JereyBoy,

Now you've found a way to put both feet in your mouth. Are you sure you're even able to grasp the point you were trying to convey?...You may have need to consult Wikipedia on this matter, but I don't-and, for that matter, the Wiki text neither supported your ?position, nor refuted mine-but, I suppose that's also beyond your grasp...The breeding "qualities" and aptitudes of Lady Josephine and her daughter, Mumtaz Mahal were apparent by the time of conception for Abernant and Tudor Minstrel. Neither horses' performance was a genetic (or pedigree) surprise. When I had previously cited Graustark it was to acknowledge that pedigree, while often fairly predictive re-aptitude-, can sometimes prove otherwise-reason: only a portion of the genes are inherited from each parent, etc. So, it was already said here on this blog-before your post-, but I suppose you missed it, it was beyond your comprehension, or whatever. My point (to you) was that you chose the wrong examples to emphasize your position...The reason I didn't mention The Tetrarch-another speed influence, and sire of Mumtaz Mahal-is because I was able to demonstrate my point without need of him. Let's face it, you chose Owen Tudor and specifically his sons Abernant and Tudor Minstrel as a means to refute the predictive ability of pedigree analysis. Problem is, you neglected to factor in the bottom half pedigrees of both your examples-Abernant and Tudor Minstrel. Hmm-what does that tell you about your understanding of the "mechanics" of pedigree, genetics, or, for that matter, ability to reason? So, please don't waste my time, or the time of others, with your foolish rantings.      

14 Jul 2012 4:49 PM
sceptre

an ole railbird,

Hope you're still breathing (only with reference to your "baited breath" remark). Sorry I took a while to get back to you, but learned today of the passing of my old good friend, Tony Leonard, so I wasn't up to replying until now. Tony was a horse photographer without peer, a true perfectionist who would refuse to click the shutter until the pose was just right. He also had the artistic "eye" to see the ideal pose. He was a kind, good, and giving friend. His ideal conformation shots of the many stallions will serve as a superb reference for students of the breed in the years to come. If you want to know what they truly looked like, seek out Tony's shots. Munnings (in years past) painted them to look their best; Tony photographed them to look their best.

Now, to respond to your two questions-

A P Indy appears as one of eight influences in the 3rd generation of Bodemeister (one of four in his female line 3rd generation). So, on average, that's the extent of his degree of impact on Bodemeister. Also, I don't see A P Indy as a one-dimensional pure stamina influence. As said before, Bodemeister's Storm Cat dam displayed precocious speed, and due to her proximity (in the pedigree) she should exert far more influence than A P Indy. The speed influence, Storm Cat, itself is in closer proximity than A P Indy. Looking back further in Bodemeister's tail-female you will find Bitty Girl. She is a speed influence and was essentially bred for speed. Even Nijit, her Nijinsky II daughter (closer up in Bodemeister's pedigree) exhibited more speed than your typical Nijinsky II. So, yes, I would say that much of Bodemeister's female line tends toward speed-it's not out and out speed (won't find that very often), but there's plenty there...On Flower Alley- no, I don't consider him to be a "router" (your term, not mine). To most, a router connotes a rather one-dimensional stayer, and if you study his racing charts you'll see that he demonstrated a reasonable amount of speed, and was certainly a good miler. To my mind, a good miler isn't what I would call a "router", even though the horse was very capable of excelling at 10 f. Just like I wouldn't label a Buckpasser to be a "router". Also, Flower Alley's pedigree is very much of middle distance-type (ex. both his sire and dam sire were probably best at about a mile). But, no more back and forths on all this, as I don't have the patience for nit picking. Certainly there's a broader explanation to my conclusion, but I hope this should suffice. If you want to learn more about pedigrees-the ins and outs-read about it, and/or start frequenting the TrueNicks blog on this BloodHorse site. It's often very informative.        

15 Jul 2012 12:39 AM
JayJay

I don't know if you can ask anymore from an owner who didn't need to explain his decision but did so publicly.  Providing the details of what transpired from IHA scratching to the sale makes it even more admirable.

I appreciate your honesty Mr. Reddam and I think you did the right thing without any doubt.  Fans tends to forget this is business, as much as I hate losing our good horses overseas, I would rather lose them than see them fail to pass on their genes.

I hope you get another horse that takes you back on the TC trail next year.  Just don't forget to take me with you, I'll carry your luggage, make your coffee and will even do your laundry.  Thanks for the candid blog Mr Reddam!

15 Jul 2012 2:29 AM
an ole railbird

 sceptre,

 i do apprecate your opinion. it is well researched, & well stated.

 my formular is 1, that i have devolped, over the years out of nessesity. as i have never had a expert to show me the proper way to do it. however our conclusions, are very close to being the same.

having said that, i still understand that slecting individuals for mating purposes is some sort of a crap shoot. however i have been successiful in breeding several species( &selecting animals for purchase). by looking on their female line, for outstanding females. if the top side(the male line ) is of average quality. and i can find, 2 outstanding females in 5 generations, of the female line. then this is the animal, i select. it has worked in the majority of cases, in horses, cattle, sheep,goats,& working & hunting dogs.

 imo. i would rather have an outstanding bred mare& a average stallion. than an outstanding stallion & a average mare. ( case in point dullahan. the best of him has not showed up yet). i believe his momma will produce runners out of anything.

 i offer all of this as my opinion. & would welcome intelligent debate.

when in pursuit of the perfect horse, i will gladly stand corrected,on any of my opinions. thank you sceptre for your participation.

  wish happy days to all,

 i remain  ," an ole railbird".

15 Jul 2012 10:39 AM
Slew

New Racing Fan:  Tendonitis, or the more serious lesion in a tendon is the result of a strain of that tendon, and not a conformation flaw.  It is therefore not a transferable genetic trait.

Sceptre and railbird:  While I find the information in pedigree research fascinating, it gives me a picture only of possibilities based on the performance of previous generations.  I think I gain the most in actually watching the performance of the horse itself.  I think Bodemeister can run all day, but he seems to do best on the lead, even though he will fight back when headed.  I find it to be a bit of a drawback for him.  I'll Have Another, on the other hand, can also run all day, BUT he has the tactical speed to start from anywhere on the track, and still find the wire first.  It's the heart and intelligence of the individual horse that sets him apart.  His pedigree itself can't give me that, although it can act as a guide to possible limitations.

For some vague reason, I so often refer back to Slew as to individuality.  He had excellent breeding that goes back to Nasrullah on top, and Princequillo in his dam.  Wow!  But nothing in his pedigree ever indicated his fierceness, his uncanny ability to intimidate other horses and even their jockeys, or the fact that he would be such a clumsy 2 year old.  We know he like to run in front, but he had the ability to rate.  However, if he wanted to be in front, he ran over anything that got in his way to get to the lead.  He became a legend not just because of his breeding, but because of his individuality, his heart, and his uncanny intelligence that dictated which mares he would breed to.  For all his progeny, I've yet to see another Slew (though Vindication came close).  Some things cannot be duplicated, even with the best breeding.

Secretariat had a similar Nasrullah x Princequillo breeding.  And there is no explanation for him except maybe he came from another planet. As much as we try in breeding, there is no duplicate.

So pedigree is only part of the equation in an individual.  Horses are as different as you and I.  My children were all given the same genetic and environmental opportunities, and yet they differ from one another dramatically.  

Which means breeding itself is a very big gamble.  And breeders in the USA were simply more willing to gamble on Bodemeister than IHA.

I might have chosen the tactical horse with speed over the green horse showing raw speed...but it's not my field, and not my place to say which will be the better bet in the future.

15 Jul 2012 1:04 PM
an ole railbird

 hello mr slew, i would like to comment on your opinion about tendonitis. what you said was partically true.

 a bowed tendon is more common in a horse with long cannon bones & long pastens. if his ankle & knee set extra high & that foot is not at the right angle, it is a bow waiting to happen.

 upon impact, that length will give more, than if short. this creates more pressure on the tendon.  

1 of my old guuruus, always said ,more length, more limber.

  have a nice day.

 "an ole rail bird"

15 Jul 2012 6:26 PM
Slew

ole railbird: I love your comments, and enjoy reading them.  I do agree that conformation of the horse itself, can contribute to damage, though I didn't want to get into technicalities with my response to new fan because IHA's problem seems to arise more from the strenuous workouts he put in.

According to veterinarians,

"Damage to flexor tendons occurs commonly during exercise. Moderately strenuous exercise can result in tearing of fibers in horses that are not fit. Even in fit horses, over stretching of tendons can occur during fast work, work on unleveled ground, work involving jumping at speed, racing, or training. The degree of damage can range from minor, with little fiber damage to very severe with total tendon rupture occurring."

"Developmental tendon problems are classified as either congenital or acquired. Congenital deformities are present at birth, whereas acquired deformities generally develop during periods of growth."

IHA's previous success leads me to believe his tendon problem was acquired rather than congenital.  Acquired traits are not passed on in breeding.

16 Jul 2012 7:25 AM
Dark Horse

I love I'll Have Another, but am not really buying Reddam's story. Of course he's going to say all the right things if he choses to come on here. What else would you expect?  Read between the lines. Ten million is a nice round number. What are the odds that wasn't an offer from Japan, but a number he gave them? And how long did he shop the horse in the US? If you want 10 million, maybe it would take a little longer than what?  Two weeks?  If he had cared about the horse, or racing fans for that matter, he would have told the trainer to nurse him back to health, rather than worry that this might undermine his future value, because he had no absolute certainty that IHA would come back as strong. Horse racing doesn't need owners like this. This horse had a lot of heart. Unfortunately, his owner had none.

18 Jul 2012 6:48 AM
Uncle Smiley

Steve,

Thanks for this opportunity to read Mr.  Reddam's comments and reflections.  It is obvious that he and Doug O'Neill were selfless in scratching IHA.

Shipping the horse to Japan is a business decission.  I would think IHA's welfare there is as good as here, if not better.

US

21 Jul 2012 8:33 PM
GayleReddam

Your cousin Gayle in Windsor says you did everything right...we've become horse racing fans and attend Gulf Stream while we're in Florida. We hear you are bringing I've Had Enough this Sat. For the Stakes race..Hope to see you there..Gayle is going to call your dad back in Windsor in hopes we can connect with you..Good Luck

20 Feb 2013 8:33 PM
Bellwether

After reading this I have a ton of respect for Paul Reddam when it comes to IHA...Period...

23 Jan 2014 12:43 PM

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