Belmont Stakes - The Last 10 Years

In the last 10 years of the Belmont Stakes, we have seen favorites and longshots triumph; and close finishes and runaway winners. But, what if they were all in the same race? How do you think that they would finish? Assume a fast track and clean trips for all.

To participate, use your cursor to drag the selections on the left (currently arranged in chronological order) to the blank placeholders on the right. Once you have completed ranking all of the horses, submit your entries and compare your results to the rest of the community. A first place ranking will earn 9 points, second place receives 8 points, and so on.    


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Afleet Alex all the way.

25 May 2010 3:58 PM

Alex! Alex! Alex!  His Belmont was amazing.

25 May 2010 4:07 PM

I believe Point Given would have blown all these horses out of the water, including Afleet Alex. Point Given won his Belmont by over 12 lengths, in the 3rd fastest running in the history of the race. I was never even a fan of Point Given, but I have to give him credit as the best Belmont winner of the last decade.

25 May 2010 4:34 PM

Afleet Alex would cream them... Point Given would be close, though.

25 May 2010 4:35 PM

Afleet Alex way above the others!

25 May 2010 4:45 PM

By order of times that they finished, it would be:

1. Point Given

2. Birdstone

3. Summer Bird

4. Jazil

5. Empire Maker

6. Afleet Alex

7. Rags to Riches

8. Sarava

9. Da' Tara

10. Commendable

25 May 2010 4:54 PM

Lack of Long Term Memory appears to be affecting many of you; you can remember 5 years ago but not 10.  Point Given was FAR superior to Afleet Alex.  Just like so many are enamored with Smarty Jones, you forget the really great ones.  I'm sure many of you were trying to find a way to somehow get RA on that list too...LOL

25 May 2010 5:04 PM
partly cloudy

Rags to Riches.  Fillies are as good as the boys, if they are trained and conditioned as horses, not as "distaff"

25 May 2010 5:04 PM

Rags to Riches all the way!!!!

25 May 2010 5:07 PM
Mindy C.

I know that Da' Tara has done NOTHING since,

but he did beat Big Brown and everyone else decisively...  Wish that he would come back into form...

25 May 2010 5:53 PM

Point Given by a landslide, Afleet Alex second, and Birdstone 3rd.

The list gets pretty weak after Rags To Riches. It shows the state of affairs horse racing is in these days............

25 May 2010 6:00 PM
damion J

Point Given!!!! definitely belongs on top, followed by Empire Maker, Afleet Alex and Rags To Riches. These three can actually go in any order after PG, true racehorses!! I wouldn't put Da' Tara on the bottom, to wire that field in the Belmont was amazing!!

25 May 2010 6:21 PM

Point Given, Point Given, Point Given. Maybe some don't think he was that great, but from my "point" of view, he was the one who would have won the TC if he hadn't had such a bad trip on a track like concrete.

25 May 2010 6:28 PM
Real Quiet

I put Rags to Riches up top though I think Point Given was the better horse and would have beaten Rags pretty easily. But Rags to Riches beat a very good horse in Curlin going 12 furlongs and that makes her extra special. Point Given was just very good.

25 May 2010 6:52 PM
Matthew W

Point Given/Raggsy/Empire Maker exacta box!

25 May 2010 6:52 PM
s lee

The times are interesting, but unless you're talking about a few seconds, say Point Given at 2:26.8 vs. Commendable at 2:31.2, it's hard to compare days, track conditions, who is running with you, etc.

Afleet Alex proved he had heart to spare, and 3 weeks after that amazing almost-fall in the Preakness, coasted home in the Belmont.  With very little pressure over the last quarter he ran the fastest final quarter in something like 40 years.  Had he been pushed early, who knows what he would have done.

Point Given was pushed in the Derby when hot fractions and a great close resulted in the 2nd fastest winning time in Derby history for  Monarchos.  PG had no answer.  Yes, he went on to win 4 million dollar races in a row, and, yes, his Belmont was wonderful, but I'd take that tough little bay over that big chestnut at the top of that long Belmont stretch.  Wouldn't THAT be fun to watch!

25 May 2010 7:25 PM

point given should have won the triple crown, the race is only between point given and afleet alex, empire maker and rags to riches are in toss up for 3rd and 4th, i might change summer bird to 3rd only if he wins any races this year, rest of the field was total flop

25 May 2010 7:33 PM

Point Given could have won the Triple Crown. He just couldn't seem to keep his mind on his work in the derby. Although Monarchos made a huge move, I believe Point Given beat himself that day.

25 May 2010 8:01 PM
So Cal Racer

..POINT GIVEN.. is the bomb, any other horses just come second.. I will give credit to Afleet Alex for his heart on the Triple Crown, he should won all three race but lost one by his jockey's error.. if this is real race AA could give PG run for his money and wont be surprise if dead heat on the wire.. if AA dh with PG second will be Empire Maker and third would be Sarava and the rest will be running fourth and so on..

25 May 2010 8:17 PM
D. Timberlake

Birdstone's is the most impressive because he was given very little chance to defeat Smarty Jones and he ran him down in that long Belmont stretch.  The race call by Tom Durkin that day was also the best of the Triple Crown races this decade.

25 May 2010 8:25 PM

WELL HOW TIME HAS "flown by:!!

 Because I would have had

TOUCH GOLD right there in a photo


Empire Maker might be a little

UNDERRATED here though I ranked him

3RD on my list AS well

  he won on an "OFF - TRACK"

and a  FASTER STRIP possibly

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25 May 2010 8:34 PM

If Rags can beat Curlin, Rags can beat Alex & Point Given!

25 May 2010 8:39 PM

Point Given

Summer Bird

Afleet Alex

Empire Maker

Rags To Riches






I find it unfathomable that anyone could watch Point Given's Belmont and not place him at the top of the list.  Summer Bird (as well as his sire, Birdstone) are very underrated as performers and I can only hope SB has a chance to show that this year (has he even worked yet?)  In retrospect, Birdstone was a very honest horse and probably would've been even better at 4yo had he been given the chance.

Point Given by 1.5 lengths, Summer Bird second by a have over Afleet Alex.  Close for 4th between Empire Maker, Rags, and Birdstone.

25 May 2010 9:21 PM

I didn't take this as a who could beat who, I took it as who had the best Belmont, and personally the most exciting Belmont I witnessed was Rags' Belmont. She had help from Curlin to make that stretch battle, but that will remain one of the most thrilling, heart pounding, and stirring stretch duels of last decade.

I put Birdstone second for the sheer shock factor it caused. Nobody will ever forget that Belmont. Next I put AA because of his ability to come back off a near fall in the Preakness to win the Belmont with ease. Point Given's Dominance earned him fourth. Empire Maker returning to beat Funny Cide again made fifth, Summer Bird's correnation was sixth.

25 May 2010 10:15 PM

I believe that Point Given and Afleet Alex should have won the Triple Crown if the "Racing Gods" had been with them in the Kentucky Derby.  I was fortunate enough to have Clubhouse seats near the finish line at the Belmont Stakes the year Point Given won.  Being present at the track is so much different than watching it on TV.  Despite the roar from the crowd, you could hear Point Given thundering down the stretch out-distancing his rivals with such command, tremendous power and strength. It was truly a masterful performance that I felt fortunate to see first-hand.  After the race, I remembered thinking given how awe-struck I was with his performance, I could only imagine what it would have been like to witness Secretariat's win in person.

25 May 2010 10:24 PM


Point Given

Afleet Alex

Empire Maker

Can't go wrong.

25 May 2010 10:43 PM

Here's mine:

Point Given

Afleet Alex

Empire Maker

Rags To Riches

Summer Bird






In a hypothetical contest where every horse runs his or her race, I can't imagine anybody but Point Given winning.  I was a huge fan of Afleet Alex, especially 3 weeks after his incredible heroics in the Preakness, and he won his Belmont by 8 lengths.  He should have.  2nd and 3rd in there were Andromeda's Hero and Nolan's Cat.  He so far towered over everything in that 3yo crop.

I just think that Point Given faced a better group in both his 2 and 3yo seasons, and his destruction of that 2001 Belmont Stakes was supply the adjective.

He was an absolute beast!

25 May 2010 10:59 PM
empire maker fan

Empire Maker w/ Bailey doubt about it!  I can't see anyone even close.

25 May 2010 11:23 PM

Rags to Riches because she had the guts to do so!

26 May 2010 12:48 AM
Max E

The Belmont is usually a freaky race. Some of the winners never did much before or after that race eg Commendable.That should be an important factor in the ranking.

26 May 2010 12:52 AM
james p drinkard

point given was one of the best horses of our generation and at a variety of distances. he's the only thoroughbred in history to win 4 consecutive $1,000,000.00 races. the preakness,belmont, haskell and travers. these other belmont winners are very good, just not as good as point given. sometimes the truth hurts. sorry.

26 May 2010 2:56 AM

Whaaat? Summer Bird should be way higher than sixth!  Belmont, Travers, Jockey Club Gold Cup, etc.!  He had an incredible season last year!! That's just my opinion though.  :)

26 May 2010 6:10 AM

Rags was the best. She beat an incredible field and there was enough drama to write a soap .

26 May 2010 7:28 AM

Afleet Alex forever!!!!!!!!!!!!

Go Dublin!!!

26 May 2010 7:29 AM
Jack from Michigan

Point Given would blow them all away if Gary Stevens didn't choke at the 3/4 pole and burn him out again! DAH!

26 May 2010 8:15 AM
Point Given- Over-Rated

Afleet Alex, Empire Maker Summer Bird and possibly Rags would beat Point Given. The only quality in the 2001 Triple Crown races that he beat was Monarchos and Congaree. Cut me a break.

26 May 2010 8:35 AM

Rags all the way. She stumbled at the start, went wide, and still had the heart to beat a HOY. Afleet Alex and Point Given are right there near her. Empire Maker next. Nobody else near them. I hate Birdstone for beating Smarty.

26 May 2010 10:14 AM
Ace Hare

Point Given was the best 3-yo of the decade, the horse was a machine... There is not a 3-yo on that list (or off that list) for the decade of the 00's that would be a pimple on his big red arse... There are few older horses that are as good as Point Given was in the last decade

26 May 2010 10:59 AM

Rags all the way.  She was all heart.

26 May 2010 11:11 AM

I hated Birdstone when he beat Smarty.  But I will admit to being impressed with what he has done in the breeding shed.  I can't remember the last horse who got two classic winners from his first crop.  Has any stallion done that?  So OK, Birdstone, you're not so bad after all!

26 May 2010 11:23 AM
Karen in Texas

Point Given and Afleet Alex were both exceptional, and probably could have won the Triple Crown with better luck in the Derby. Remember that Curlin was running something like his sixth race in six months by the time he made it to the Belmont. It, of course, is the longest of the races any of these horses ever will run, and he had only just tied the stakes record for the Preakness a couple of weeks prior. He did his best against Rags, who had not run since the Oaks.

Jack from Michigan---What are you talking about?? Point Given DID blow them all the Belmont.

26 May 2010 11:57 AM

Most are in agreement that Point Given was the best and DaTara the worst!!!

Afleet Alex,Birdstone,Summer Bird ,Rags to Riches all deserve consideration for the 2nd spot.

26 May 2010 12:11 PM
Point Given-Over Rated

Ace Hare: In chronological order: Empire Maker, Smarty Jones, Afleet Alex, Barbaro, Bernardini, Street Sense, Curlin, Big Brown and Summer Bird all would stand a good chance IMO.

26 May 2010 12:56 PM
Vic S

Point Given is OVERRATED.  The only time he ever really awed was the Belmont, just another wannabe Big Red just like Easy Goer, neither of which come close to Secretariat or Man O' War.  If you like hype you'll love Point Given.  He finally got a track to his liking and with his big butt made the best of it winning by 12 on a very fast track.  Afleet Alex was EASILY best of these with Summer Bird 2nd over Point Given.  If you really know horse racing you will know Point Given is overrated FACT.

26 May 2010 1:05 PM
Rags Fan

Rags beat Curlin, a  Horse of the Year and record money winner.  She had a rough start and he had every opportunity in a long stretch to pass her and  couldn't.

26 May 2010 1:19 PM

Point Given, with Afleet Alex within a whisker or two. And no, Point Given was not overrated. That is the correct fact. Rags To Riches in third. I think if any horse was overrated, it was Empire Maker. Never understood all the fuss made over him.

26 May 2010 1:26 PM
Point Given Over-Rated

smarie, Empire Maker beat Ten Most Wanted and Funny Cide in his Belmont, just those 2 right there are way better than anything Point Given ever beat. Empire Maker was not over-rated, and he is proving that in the shed as well.

26 May 2010 1:45 PM

following three standout: PG, AA, EM without a dobut best of their respective competition. I cant make the same argument for the rest.

26 May 2010 1:51 PM

Point Given and or Afleet Alex

26 May 2010 2:03 PM

I say Point Given. But I hardly heard any fuss over Empire Maker. Te term"overrated" is lame anyways.

26 May 2010 2:06 PM
Afleet Alexandra

Afleet Alex and Point Given dead heat, with 3 back to Rags, a half length in front of Birdstone. Summer Bird 2 or 3 behind that, and everyone else a scattered mess behind them. I see it.

26 May 2010 2:19 PM
Matthew W

Certainly the best 2nd place horse was Curlin, and Raggsy beat him on the square, with a stumbling start and wide trip thrown in, those facts make a strong case for Rags To Riches being the best Belmont Winner--better than Point Given and his so-so field--noting how Belmont is famous for it's wide open finishes, I would tend to think Point Given's Belmont was suspect--at the same time, Rags To Riches's Belmont was with trouble/with Curlin alongside like a lap dog! 1 1/2 mi is a distance that helps to equalize the sexes--stamina is inherant in the breed, stamina is not based on sex--Rags To Riches was the best Belmont winner of the 0's!

26 May 2010 2:39 PM
Matthew W

I, too, think Summer Bird no lower than 5th, maybe 4th, maybe the best of the whole bunch--and I am looking forward to him completing "The Three Amigos" of older males this year...that's a real nice horse, who handled Quality Road with ease at 1 1/4--twice!

26 May 2010 2:43 PM
Matthew W

Rags To Riches will fall through the cracks--she already has--but her name will always inspire in me, memories of her dominance, her move--sustained runs,the likes of which were rarely seen in a filly/not often seen in a colt--Rags To Riches was, up to that point in her career, one of the best fillies ever--Point Given/Afleet Alex not as high up on the colts list....

26 May 2010 2:58 PM

In my opinion if Afleet Alex and Point Given were given proper rides in the Derby we wouldn't have all this talk about no triple crown winner in the last zillion years. Those 2 horses were by far the best 3 year olds of their respective years. Afleet Alex probably being the one with the better chance.

26 May 2010 3:15 PM

Tough call! I put Rags to Riches on top becasue of that amazing stretch run battle she had with one of the best male racehorses of the last decade, and Point Given and Afleet Alex would be next, in no particular order because they were both so talented. My top three would be in a very close win photo I think!

26 May 2010 4:05 PM

What is it with Point Given getting so little respect? The horse was a monster! He had such a long, ground eating stride, he never looked like he was moving fast. He beat Congaree, multiple times, and look how good HE turned out to be. Curlin is the horse who never impressed me much, and I've been watching horses race... well, I'm not going to date myself. Granted no one on this list is Secretariat, but then no one is. These things are always personal opinion anyway, ESPECIALLY the RA v Z debate...

Point Given and Alex are the best horses on the list, I'll give the edge to PG. Next flight comes Rags and Empire Maker (can barely remember who he is); then Birdstone, and basically eenie meenie miney mo the rest of the field. I'll revise my opinion if Birdy steps up the plate this summer-fall.

26 May 2010 6:34 PM
Port Stanley

BN - I'm curious why you think Point Given is getting little respect, he is leading the poll. That seems like a lot of respect to me.

26 May 2010 6:53 PM
Virgil Fox

Afleet Alex and Point Given.

Simply dominant.

- Peace

26 May 2010 7:05 PM
Rags to Rachel

I love Rags, but Point Given is the best horse not to win the Triple Crown because of a loss in the Kentucky Derby.

26 May 2010 8:34 PM

Point Given should have owned the Crown.  He was magnificent.

My heart goes with Alex because he had such heart.

26 May 2010 8:36 PM
Will W

Point Given and Afleet Alex in a photo finish. Everyone else is an also ran. Who knows how good these two colts would have been if injury had not forced their premature retirement.

26 May 2010 10:15 PM

Point Given had quiet the win,but with that last kick of engery Afleet Alex had was really amazing to me, so I think that Afleet Alex would win the Belmont, Point Given would deffently come in 2nd

27 May 2010 12:37 AM

Alex and Point Given. No question. Empire Maker and Ten Most Wanted in the slop was a thrilling Belmont, though.

(Still haven't, and may never, forgive Jeremy Rose)

27 May 2010 8:04 AM

I have to go with Rags to Riches, she was truly magnificent in the Belmont. After getting that bad bump at the start and still coming back to win.

I also like Point Given and Afleet Alex. Alex had a tough little horse and had a brilliant win in the Belmont. I never saw Point Given's Belmont as I was only 7 at the time.

27 May 2010 8:13 AM
Fran Loszynski

As an Afleet Alex fan it touches my heart to see all the people that feel Alex is first on their list.

My call: Afleet Alex and Birdstone.

By the way they are roommates at Gainesway Farm. Their retirement home is beautiful with loving people working there.

27 May 2010 8:17 AM
Forbidden Apple

This is easy, Point Given would roar past the field and win by 5 in a hand ride. With Empire Maker running a game second and a length back to Rags To Riches. Because Point Given has not turned out to be a superior stallion, I feel like he gets less respect as a race horse. Another favorite of mine who gets the same low level of respect is Formal Gold. This horse was brilliant and would have won the 1997 B.C. Classic if he did not fracture a leg just days before the race.

27 May 2010 8:19 AM

Still to this day trying to figure out why Afleet Alex did not win the Triple Crown.  Jeremy Rose about ran him under another horse in the preakness and he still won, he crushed the field in the Belmont, how in the world did he not beat a very week Derby field by double digit lengths?

27 May 2010 8:20 AM
Frank J.

I am also on the Afleet Alex bandwagon. That horse was just insanely good and not just his TC races but his preps were darn good as well. I don't know how he didn't win the TC but that's how it's been lately I guess. (I think the same thing about Smarty, Street Sense)

27 May 2010 11:08 AM

No doubt...POINT GIVEN.

Followed by Afleet Alex and Rags To Riches.

27 May 2010 11:14 AM

Point Given and Afleet Alex, for being the serious Triple Crown horses in the group.  Rags to Riches for her thrilling win.  I don't often jump up and down screaming but I did that day.    

27 May 2010 2:28 PM
Soldier Course


I agree with you about Afleet Alex coming so close to winning the Triple Crown in 2005. After seeing him go to his knees and still win the Preakness, then win the Belmont so handily without tiring, you have to wonder.

27 May 2010 3:22 PM

Absolutely, Afleet Alex first with Point Given second.  I had Rags next followed by Summer Bird.  I'd be shocked if the bottom four weren't at the bottom of each list.

27 May 2010 4:31 PM

We obviously do remember that Alex and PG are the only horses on the list who ran in all three Classics so clearly we think that's an important factor.  Every other horse ran in only one or two of the TC races or waited for the Belmont to "jump in at the quarter pole", as it were.

27 May 2010 4:38 PM
tom m

it's unfortunate that the best horse to race in the belmont stakes

in the last 10 years ran 2nd.that would be smarty took a horse to run an incredible fluke race and keep him from immortality.please don't blame elliot.there was a 9 length gap to the 3rd place horse

27 May 2010 9:01 PM

Tom m,

Birdstone won the Travers, he did not run a fluke race. With his breeding and the suicidal pace Smarty was put through the race played exactly to his liking. When you give a good horse like him that kind of a chance, more often than not they will win.

27 May 2010 10:45 PM

Point Given is the best horse for that race. I think he would of won hands down . Afleet Alex was a very strong second choice but i really think if Rags to Riches didn't stumble out of the starting gate she would have the best chance to be the best Belmont stakes winner in the last 10 years.

28 May 2010 12:50 AM
randy in Lakeland FL

Too bad it doesn't go back 11 years because the great LEMON DROP KID was the best I would have to say.

28 May 2010 8:09 AM
Fran Loszynski

If we want to see another Afleet Alex win the Belmont put Afleet Express in. Watching his race again he could beat Ice Box. He has the speed and heart! A word to the owners of Afleet Express the Belmont Trophy could be yours! Can they run Afleet Express in the Belmont TC Race?

28 May 2010 8:34 AM

Point Given, Afleet Alex and Empire Maker.

28 May 2010 8:37 AM

Summer Bird birds forever

28 May 2010 10:15 AM

Hall of Fame...Point Given.  Spectacular horse and career.

28 May 2010 6:54 PM
Gina Spadafori

That was fun. More like this, please!

28 May 2010 7:23 PM
Glenn Craven

There's a lot of voting with your heart going on here, and not on time nor talent.

Only a couple of these Belmont winners were in any particular way impressive on an historic level. Point Given won by *12 1/4*. Birdstone's move in the stretch was scintillating and he defeated an extremely good horse -- who'd never before been beaten -- in Smarty Jones, in definite "racehorse time."

Other than that, look at the times and who they beat. Afleet Alex crushed, but second was Andromeda's Hero and third Nolan's Cat. ... NOLAN'S CAT.

Rags gutted it out against Curlin, but the time just wasn't very good. The comment earlier that -- other than wide spreads of several seconds -- time is hard to judge because of track conditions, pace, etc. And I agree. But the fact is, Jazil won more impressively than did his half-sis, did take down G1 horses (as did she) and did it in about four lengths' better time.

Obviously it's impossible to speculate with any accuracy. But if they all brought the same "game" they brought on the day they won their Belmont, it's Point Given by four or five lengths over Birdstone and long-shot Jazil, who'd probably still go off as seventh-favored of 10 in the betting, even though we all know how fast he ran his Belmont in 2006.

Assuming clean trips for all and each bringing their Belmont Day "A" game, no way any of these other nine beat Point Given. None.

29 May 2010 3:34 AM

This list speaks volumes about the soundness of today's thoroughbred and current breeding practices.

Did any of the listed Belmont winners do anything as four year olds? Of course not!

29 May 2010 9:46 AM

Point Given All The Way!

29 May 2010 10:03 PM

alex was the best

pg was next

rags was good but it took so much out of her

summer bird realy good hope he races again

30 May 2010 2:47 AM

We've had all of these disappointing near Triple Crown losses in the Belmont in recent years such as Silver Charm, Real Quiet, Smarty Jones, Big Brown, Funny Cide, etc., but probably the best horse of this era to lose the Triple Crown by one race was Point Given. Baffert made a big mistake by racing him so lightly prior to the Derby & I believe he admitted to that. Of the above named horses, he is the only one to win Horse of the Year. Shame he didn't run as a 4 year old.

30 May 2010 1:27 PM

This was a tough one -- I think Point Given's probably the best of the bunch. But we were there for Rags' race against Curlin, and it was great! Afleet Alex was also a great 3-year-old. I was less thrilled with horses like Birdstone, Da Tara and Jazil.

30 May 2010 7:28 PM
Monarchos Matt

With a clean trip, I think Empire Maker wins this narrowly over Point Given. A lot of people forget about him, but 9/10 times he beats Funny Cide in that Derby and probably wins the Triple Crown in 2003. He was the real deal.

1) Empire Maker

2) Point Given

3) Afleet Alex

4) Birdstone

5) Summer Bird

Big drop off after this in my mind. Jazil would probably be next, just a stone cold closer. Throw Rags to Riches in there for 7th. The other three approach fluke status, no?

31 May 2010 12:06 AM
Smarty Party

Smarty Jones ran the best Belmont in the last ten years.  Watch the replay, he never had a chance to relax with the others teaming up on him, and he still almost won!  If he gets a fair trip (or maybe a better ride) he wins by 15.

31 May 2010 8:00 AM

Let's be subjective.  If racing is an interactive sport, I will vote my two most profitable winners, in an upset, of course; Da'Tara and Sarava.

31 May 2010 9:10 AM
DK Stables

Only one for the top...Point Given, on that day, would take all comers.  Great Talent!

31 May 2010 9:07 PM

Point Given was the best three-year-old of his decade, and would have gone down as one of the all-time greats, if not for his Derby Day dull, 5th place finish, still a mystery to me. Now,isn't it funny how in 2001 Monarchos (Marias Mon) won the Derby in the second fastest running of the Kentucky Derby. He then runs an uninspiring 3rd at Pimlico in the Preakness and is beaten easily by Point Given, a Bob Baffert horse. Now spin your reels to this years Derby winner, Super Saver (Marias Mon). He goes to Pimlico, runs out of gas in the final turn and gets beaten handily by another Baffert horse, Lookin at Lucky. It prompts me to wonder if the Marias Mons runners, the Classic Types, have or not have an affinity for that particular surface. I'd like to know what ya'all think?      

31 May 2010 10:11 PM

Point Given wins this race. Afleet Alex, Empire Maker, and Rags, then it's distanced to the rest of the field. Da'Tara hands down finishes last. Da'Tara's Belmont was the weakest field in history including the overhyped Big Brown who won the Derby and Preakness in the weakest year for 3 yr olds in history.  

01 Jun 2010 2:00 PM

Ice Box would crush them all and will win gloriously this Saturday.

01 Jun 2010 11:52 PM

Point Given all the way. Afleet Alex, Rags, and Empire Maker are the only others who would stand a chance. Totally agree with slyder on the Da Tara Belmont. Nothing much came out of that class of 3 yr olds.  

02 Jun 2010 10:13 AM
Judy G ~ California


I was screaming & yelling with tears in my eyes. I witnessed greatness, and I will never, ever forget it!!!


02 Jun 2010 12:50 PM
Judy G ~ California

p.s. I was so excited to submit my comment, I forgot to add:

R2R had a bad gate break (in most cases, doomed for winning), then she had to go VERY WIDE AT THE TOP OF THE STRETCH, then she hooked up down the stretch with HOY Curlin ~ a tenacious run ~ ALL HEART!!

02 Jun 2010 12:55 PM

How was Point Given overrated??!!!! He won more major races than Empire Maker did. So I guess every field he faced was nothing? BS.

02 Jun 2010 2:01 PM

Point Given

Afleet Alex

Summer Bird

Empire Maker

Rags To Riches





Da Tara

07 Jun 2010 6:13 PM

Secretariat would have blown them out of the water. Still holds the all time record after 37 years. Also holds the Kentucty Derby time record. Greatest Horse to run the tracks.

23 Oct 2010 8:21 PM

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