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Readers Comment On Readers' Horses -- Plus New Poll

Before we begin, I wanted to let you know that we've got a new poll up and running:  Time to Buy a Broodmare?  The Thoroughbred breeding industry is in flux -- please take 30 seconds to have your vote counted.

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And now, back to our regularly-scheduled event.  With the long weekend coming up, I thought I'd shake up the "Broodmarathon" format a bit and put up several readers' horses for discussion. 

Please share your ideas -- these readers have asked for constructive feedback.

dray33 has three mares and would like to hear your comments and suggestions.
  1. Brushed Bayou (pedigree, photo) is in foal to Unbridled's Song (SRO). This stakes-winning mare was in the money 11 times from 15 starts for earnings of $189,457.  This will be her first foal.
  2. Thoroughbred horse photo broodmare StariaStaria (pedigree, photo) is in foal to Rahy (SRO) -- and dray33 hopes for a filly!
  3. Perfectly Natural (pedigree, photo) is a newly-retired mare.  Nine times in the money from 12 starts yielded just shy of $100,000 in career earnings.

catnip lane has two weanling fillies in Keeneland's November sale.
  1. Hip #1537 (catalog page) is a granddaughter of Gay Sonnet and is by a son of Distorted Humor (SRO), giving the filly a 5 x 2 Rasmussen Factor to that family 9-f blue hen mare.
  2. Hip #1560 (catalog page) is out of a stakes-producing mare and is from the first crop of Flower Alley (SRO).

Kelly is ready to retire her first racehorse and is considering her future prospects as a broodmare.
  • Luknluv (pedigree) is a five-time winner and was in the money 20 times from 28 starts, for a $57,383 lifetime bankroll.

When you post a comment, please specify which horse you're referring to.  Feel free to discuss the pedigree, the catalog page, breeding ideas, or whatever strikes your fancy.

7 Comments:

dray33 has done an excellent job picking viable racing and commercial stallion prospects for the mares listed.

I looked at Perfectly Natural.  Her dam's side is a real plus: Mr. Prospector, Seattle Slew, and Alydar.  Depending on budget, I would suggest that this mare be taken to Unbridled's Song.

My intention in her 2009 breeding would be to complement her versatility and speed with stamina.

If budget is a factor and you are looking for a quality outcross.  Holy Bull may fit the bill.  Even though, the dosage index seems to come in a little high, this outcross has already produced some nice racehorses.  In my opinion, you have a game filly in Perfectly Natural.  Given the right cross, she could produce a classic type horse.

KDH

Kent D. Hersman 10 Oct 2008 11:00 PM

Just a suggestion concerning Kelly and Luknluv:

With the market the way it is, I would suggest looking at Keeneland for a mare that is due to foal in 2009.  You can often find bargains that are in foal to some really nice stallions.

This would eliminate your cost of stud fees and care of the in-foal mare.  It would also allow you to enjoy having the new hopeful, very soon.

Although Luknluv posted several good runs, she is in the class of horses that will not likely have a baby sell for an outrageous amount if you decide to sell.  

If you are breeding to race, and you want to hold on to her then forget about what's hot and what's not and breed to the stallion that will be the best suited for her.  This will help you reduce expense when it comes to stud fees.

KDH

Kent D. Hersman 10 Oct 2008 11:17 PM

Kent has it right in Kelly's case.  Retrain the mare as a riding horse or use her as a companion for a broodmare if you want, but unless you have a really good reason, a mare like this is not the right type for breeding.  Breeding to sell, you'd lose money and end up giving away the foal.  Breeding to race, you could do a whole lot better picking up a nice infoal mare at the sales this year.

DynaformerLives 11 Oct 2008 2:10 PM

Any suggestions on my own mare? We were thinking a Giants Causeway approach.

She is a non starter, 10 yr old mare, produced 2 foals (Storm Cat colt and Distorted Humor filly).

By A.P. Indy out of an Unbridled mare, her fam is from the direct family of Angel Fever/Fusaichi Pegasus and so she has Halo and Danzig directly in her dams side.

Ideas on new stallions? Thanks

amanda 11 Oct 2008 3:07 PM

Amanda,

As soon as you mentioned your mare, I thought of Cherokee Run.  This cross taps in on Nasrullah through a modern day sire success.  

Additionally, it gives you an outcross that is likely to be respected at the sales.  Zanjero is just one recent colt that should solidify the potential of this cross.

Giants Causeway is certainly hot, but you will pay for the service.  I like that the cross concentrates on Northern Dancer and Mr. Prospector.  

With today's market, one must consider the progeny potential of the mare's offspring when they select a stud fee range.  

There are a number of very nice Storm Cat line stallions out there.  Lion Heart is off to a fine start.

Best of luck,

KDH

Kent D. Hersman 12 Oct 2008 4:33 AM

To Kelly, one big thing stands out about your mare.  She is tail-female to Gambetta/Rough Shod which is an outstanding female family.  This is who Big Brown is inbred to.  I would look for a stallion who offers a line of this family, and if possible a line of Somethingroyal through Secretariat. Eavesdropper comes to mind, but the fee is $7500 and I'm not sure how picky they are about his mares.

I do agree with the above comments that you would do better picking up another mare at a sale, but if you want to do this for sentimental reasons and don't mind spending the money, go for it!  You can't go wrong inbreeding to Rough Shod and here you own a direct female descendent.

Redbean 12 Oct 2008 4:56 PM

Thank you for the comments KDH. Unbridled's Song is interesting, the whole US/Storm Cat mix. I was thinking Indian Charlie, Rahy or Dixie Union if I need to keep the costs down. I also need the foal to be commercial, so Unbridled's Song really fits the bill!  Thank you again for the comments.

Dray33 15 Oct 2008 9:43 AM

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