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Broodmarathon - Stakes Producer Carrying *Guaranteed Winner*

Here's the scenario:  you have the opportunity to purchase a mare carrying a foal that is guaranteed to be a winner.  In fact, the foal is even guaranteed to earn more than its training, feed, and veterinary costs.  Profit! 

Here's the catch: the foal's dam shouldn't be bred again and will need to be retired.  You've just purchased a winning racehorse-to-be, but you got a package deal that includes a pasture ornament that might live another 10 years -- with all the attendant bills for board, feed, and veterinary services.

The foal will show a profit relative to its own costs -- but it's up in the air whether it will earn enough to cover its dam's retirement.  Is this a risk worth taking?

Guarantees such as this aren't real, of course, but the Keeneland November sale offers the closest thing possible:

Hip #4728 (catalog page, pedigree), a 21-year-old mare named MARIE'S PRIDE, sells Sat., Nov. 15, 2008  at the Keeneland November mixed sale

  • Thoroughbred female family:  4-m
  • Race record:  2 wins, 2 places, 1 show from 10 starts for earnings of $31,830.
  • Produce record: dam of 10 foals, nine of racing age, eight runners, seven winners including one stakes winner and two black type-placed
  • Sale history:  $250,000 Keeneland July yearling (1988); $18,000 Keeneland January broodmare (1992).
  • Covering sire: Slew City Slew (SRO).  Entered stud 1990.  2008 stud fee: $6,000. 

Can't say enough about Thoroughbred family 4-m (I've commented before on this family), and here we have a fairly successful branch through the fine broodmare Alanesian, third dam of Marie's Pride.  In fact, the carried foal will have a 5 x 4 Rasmussen Factor cross to Alanesian, because Slew City Slew's great-grandsire is the mare's most famous offspring, the Bold Ruler stallion Boldnesian.

When a mare gets to this advanced age (she'll be 22 when she foals) you can stop looking at her dam line, though -- and her own race record, for that matter -- and focus entirely on her production record.  Marie's Pride has had 10 foals, and here's the breakdown:

  • One is a stakes winner of $160,297
  • Two are stakes-placed winners;  one is still racing, the other earned $132,587
  • Two others are non-black type six-figure earners, including a 12-time winner of $235,626
  • Two are moderate winners
  • One is a Thunder Gulch (SRO) yearling
  • One is a non-placed runner, and one is unraced

Five of nine foals of racing age earned six figures on the track -- a phenomenal record.  Seven winners from eight runners is quite good.  Three black type offspring beats the odds for any broodmare.  In short, foals out of Marie's Pride are regularly above average.

And Slew City Slew as a covering sire is almost a sure thing.  (In fact, he was #1 on my list of breed-to-race sires for 2008.)  Over 88% of his foals aged 3 and up have raced -- and 77% of those runners have won.  Nearly 16% of these foals are black type horses, with lifetime earnings of $39 million from 670 offspring.  If you're looking at a mare carrying a Slew City Slew foal, though, you'd better plan to raise and race the foal yourself.  For whatever reason, "Slew" has not excited bidders at the Thoroughbred sales, and he is unlikely to net you a huge profit at the auction.

13 Comments:

Doesn't sound that good, sounds like you getting a mediocre runner that has produced nothing but mediocrity bred to a $6,000 stallion. hmmm... think ill take my chances elsewhere.  

RMarsh 27 Oct 2008 1:20 PM

if i have enough money, really big money, i'll wait for Rags to Riches to be bred to Curlin and try my luck.

a son/daughter of eclipse award winning parents inbred 3sX3d to Deputy Minister.

i can dream, can't i?

savyn 27 Oct 2008 1:24 PM

may be a decent deal if one can buy her right...the way the market is she may be a steal ...we have a 2yo Tapit gelding we are about to break...he has been well cared for & it's time for him to do his thing!!!Long Live Tapit!!!

Bellwether 27 Oct 2008 2:32 PM

I would take a chance on this mare, especially if she has not gone to anything from the Northern Dancer line...specifically Danzig!  Just because the mare is old does not mean she cannot produce.  With her breeding, she could through something anytime.  Since most of her inbreeding is back in the 4th and 5th generations, some closer inbreeding just might do the trick.  Slew City Slew would not be my first choice though.  I would like to see her go to Quiet American or even......and I can't believe I am saying this..... something from the Storm Cat line.  Storm Bird and Nijinsky close up would be interesting.  If she went for $10,000 or less, I would buy her.

  • Scot's reply:  With the way the market's going, you might want to get your funds in order -- I'd be surprised if she went over $2,500.
ROBERT 27 Oct 2008 4:35 PM

This is not the year to be buying a 21 year old broodmare in-foal to Slew City Slew.

Instead, a person could maximize the potential by looking for a 12 year old mare that was in-foal to a viable sire, for a commercial or racing prospect.

If the certainty of the foal is in question, purchasing a pro-foal policy for a reasonable price is an option.

Kent D. Hersman 27 Oct 2008 9:21 PM

Since she is bred to a non commercial sire anyone looking to raise a raceing prospect should be happy to bid on her, as the current market guarnetters she will probably bring less than she should.  Slew City Slew is really underraterd based on his numbers. Sure he might not produce a HOY but you usually get a foal that will earn their keep.  JMO

hardlyhatful 28 Oct 2008 12:20 AM

well her foal may be the next TRIPLE CROWN WINNER!!!don't bet on it being the next as this very well may happen in 2009!!! Long Live The Dirt!!!

Bellwether 28 Oct 2008 2:19 AM

1. Don't buy her if you don't want to give her a retirement home. She's too old to be bred again, that's just plain respect for an old horse's uterus e.g. "foaling complication"

2. Don't buy her for resale

3. Wonderful opportunity to have real race-horse in 2 1/2 - 3 years! BUY!

da3hoss 28 Oct 2008 9:57 AM

Sellers of this mare will be lucky to get the covering stud fee at the sale, but are likely to let her go just to get out from under her.  A business minded person would purchase this mare, foal her out, wean the foal, and give the mare away to a adoption agency.  For those of us with a field full of old geriatrics, she would be with us for the next 5 years.  

waytoplay 28 Oct 2008 10:56 AM

Sounds like a great deal.

I love SlewCitySlew.

They are tough runners.

I'd take the chance.

Buy the mare and race foal and may even breed her back.

LarryK 28 Oct 2008 8:30 PM

At 21 yrs. of age and the dam of 10 foals, I'd say you are more likely guaranteed a large vet bill than a runner. Doesn't look like a very good deal to me.

hoss 29 Oct 2008 8:33 AM

Update - Marie's Pride (KEENOV hip #4728) was an OUT at the sale.

sgillies 16 Nov 2008 5:40 PM

I breed a very good producer at the age of 20, in very good heath.Is my chances good for a big runner bred to pleasant tap.      

daniel ladner 13 Mar 2009 11:29 PM

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