Storm cat as a quarter horse stallion?  As a quarter horse owner and bloodlines enthusiast, this is not what I think the quarter horse industry needs.  There are so many Thoroughbreds tracing back to Storm Cat or related to Storm Cat that his blood will dilute the American Quarter horses.  There is enough Appendix Quarter horses today that look more and more like a modern Thoroughbred than a quarter horse.  It's great to see the breed evolve, but let's keep Storm Cat out of it.  Having a "Storm Cat" Quarter horse would drive down the value of those Quarter horse racing sires already out there.  Some of the best quarter horses trace back to Thoroughbreds, Three Bars, Beduino. Let's not dilute it farther by making more Thoroughbred than Quarter horse. That's just my opinion

This is just another example of an owner's greed. The AQHA is famous for encouraging over-breeding quarter horses so that they can get fees from foal registration. Then, they encourage horse slaughter. Why? To make way for more foals, so that this greedy, callous organization can get more money from foal registration fees. They have quite a cozy business going on for themselves. Of course, they don't talk about the hideous deaths these horses suffer at the slaughter houses. Shame on the owners of Storm Cat for participating in this plan! We all know that horses are being over-bred and now they are hoping to cash in even more with offspring of this stallion. Apparently, the millions and millions they made from him wasn't enough and so now they want blood money. Anyone who loves horses and opposes slaughter and endless over-breeding should contact Storm Cat's owners and the AQHA and vehemently protest this latest atrocity against horses. This is truly appalling!

Terlingua was quite precocious, and Storm Cat was too, so I think he might get response. Since quarterhorses are being bred into different types according to their use, I don't have any problem with them using him. The races horses, don't look like the halter horses, that don't look like the cutting horses, so whatever.

Just what we don't need in Quarter Horses- bad manners and bad conformation.  No Thanks.

Not sure about this at all!  Not a fan of AI anyway and Storm Cat is a Thoroughbred not a Quarter Horse!  Not sure the two breeds should be mixed.  But then i know little about Quarter horse racing; even though i do enjoy watching them flash along the track when it is on At The Races!  If you blink you miss the race practically!

The jury is out but i am not overly keen on the idea!  Storm Cat deserves a proper retirement in my opinion!!!

God Bless

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Abbie

Talk about squeezing the lemon dry!! Storm Cat, one of the worlds best thoroughbred stallions, earned more than enough for Overbrook Farm when he stood for $500,000 per mating. This would never had happened if Mr. Young was still alive... what a disgrace!

I don't know much about QH bloodlines, though I know the racing lines can be immediately descended from TBs, but I like the idea of this great sire being able to pass on his bloodlines to breeds that allow AI. I'd love to see Anglo-Arabs by him.

I agree with smarie's comments. Taking Storm Cat out of retirement to bring more Quarter Horses into this already overcrowded breed -- and world -- is one more symptom of the AQHA's hubris and venality.

Has the AQHA ever made a decision that shows even a smidgeon of care for the ultimate fate of the horses it claims to love? Has it encouraged fewer foals? Discouraged AI? Constructed and supported sanctuaries for old and infirm QHs? Gone to auction houses to buy QHs (whether washed up from racing, rodeoing or ranching) out from under the noses of killer buyers? Supported the federal bill banning slaughter? "Neigh" to all the above.

Sadly, the tracks were just beginning to play a real role in preventing their underperformers from being transported across the U.S. borders to a grisly death in an abattoir. But now the racing industry, with this Storm Cat-AQHA decision, has effectively yanked that safety net right out from under these poor horses.    

True friends of the horse see a spark of the divine in an equine's eyes. The greedy AQHA sees only green dollar signs.

Nick, I guess you could just stick with the muscle condition that waylays the halter horses.

I know things are tough in the Bluegrass state and that Overbrook Farm has to find a way to recover some of their lost stallion revenue, but show the old boy some respect.

Storm Cat's stallion manager used to be such a snob.  What's next: $1,500 for warmbloods and $500 for jennies?

This is nothing new. Heard of Alydar? Hennessy? Apollo? Beduino? Zevi? Rocket Bar? Three Bars?Hennessy (by Storm Cat) has sired a QH multiple G-1 winner Check Him Out (and miraculously he has spectacular conformation)www.stallionesearch.com/show_stallion.asp and Apollo is a very sucessful QH sire, while only a mediocre TB sire. The influence of TB blood is what makes the running Quarter Horse what it is today-ALL Running QH's have some TB blood in their pedigree. I'm actually surprised at most of the negative responses, any knowledgable breeder realises the importance and contribution of a sucessful outcross AND THATS WHAT sTORM cAT REPRESENTS TO qh BREEDERS. Plus Storm Cat has ideal physical conformation for QH mares. Don't worry, they will still be able to run a quarter of a mile.

Let's se here.As a breeder,I have signed a legally binding contract with Overbrook Farm for a season to Storm Cat at $300,000 to cover my mare. Does "the farm "or its personel have the legalright to take what I have paid for, and use it for financial gain without my permission. Well after all,it is ONLY $20,000 dollars we're talking about here,and besides "what was I going to with it anyway?" LOOKS LIKE WE JUST OPENED UP A CAN OF SPERMS :}

Whoa there folks. One mare.

Not that unusual. Hennessy and Grand Slam both bred QH mares, thru AI. Hero's Call (son of Grand Slam TB) was the AQHA World Champion distance hores (870 yds).

Granted the breeding to Wayne Lukas, by Overbrook, not the first time either. Talk about inbred. Right now there are a few bloolines and sires that are in vogue.

So many horses trace back to Dash for Cash that it's unbelievable.

I live and we train in the QH racing capital, home of the All American Futurity and the QH Triple Crown. The state where QH's outnumber the people. It's possibly a good match, the days of Three Bars, Leo and the stocky King Ranch QH's is long past.

Bet it's a favor or breeding share.

ps if you read the article, he's not 'covering' the mare. AQHA has  allowed aritificial insemmination for quite a while. It's ONE MARE, not a trend setter, not first of thousands. Lord what a bunch of reactionaries.

Truly, anyone really involved with QH's is and should be enthusiastic about improving the breed and embrace this 'ONE' experiment.

Just like a greedy rich person. All they care about is themselves, and always want more money. I hope it doesn't work. These type of people is what is wrong with our economy.

Barry please...not just our economy...the entire planet!!!...but...Long Live The King!!!...

These responses by and large crack with the sound of knees jerking.  Read the story, please.  The horse won't even jump a dummy.  They will try to impregnate these mares with stored samples of semen that has been frozen for some time.

It's like sitting around with a roomful of maiden aunts.

I hope the Old Man is not turning in his grave.  Can you Kentucky boys not have a whip round for Overbrook???

Storm Cat's dismount has been used on Quarter Horses for years.  I think over the years Wayne Lukas' wife has bred a lot of QH sired by Storm Cat using the dismount.  This is not new.  What is new is the $20,000 stud fee.

I couldn't believe this story.  I know there's a credit crunch but this is taking things just too far.

The people at Overbrook should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves.  

I hope it works really the QH racing world has not had a real breed shaper since Three Bars, Top Deck, and Depth Charge!

Dash for Cash was 7/8 TB and one of the most gallent animals I ever saw!If you look at Mr P and The great Northern Dancer you don't see a typical TB of the 50's or 60's! lets not judge until we see the results, I'm on the of seeing how the Dash for Cash tames the hot blood of Storm Cat and how being tied thru Secretariat's female family and Cash's female family works on the genes!

I know $$$ always plays some part!

Agree with Seb, they are just using up stored frozen semen that will be disgarded anyways if not used so why not use it?  I agree it cheapens Storm Cat a bit but he is retired so what difference does it make?  If he was still a fully active breeding stallion, then no, but why not send his genetic pool out there to improve a different studbook and racing QH's are basically all thoroughbred anyways especially in type.  I breed warmbloods, all high end proven performance mares and would kill to get some of Storm Cat's dismount semen for my mares!

John,

Bill Young routinely gave Wayne breeding shares to some stallions years ago (a commonplace practice) and he used several for QH mares. He's had several.

Check Him Out- a 1999 Stallion by Hennessy out of Check Her Twice (by First Down Dash by Dash for Cash) also Masters Call and Hero's call etc. So Bill was very aware of it while he was alive.

He WAS a visionary after all.

Frozen, by AI, just starting to 'get the word out'.

By the way a pretty decent prototype of the modern QH.

Check out Check Him Out.

Keep in mind the kind of horses Wayne Lukas liked when he first moved to TB's the QH looking type, goes back to his days of running them here in NM, then later in Cal.

Paste a side by side of the two most prolific stallions of their breed

Storm Cat TB and Dash For Cash QH

other than their markings, the two look VERY similar.

Mr. Young had already allowed breedings to QH's, why would he be turning over?  He was 20 years ahead of his time in everything he did. One of the greatest human beings I ever had the privilege of meeting, brief though it may have been.

I already have issues with the AQHA allowing outside breeds in their registry.  This is not a breed with low numbers and a limited gene pool.  And, unlike warmblood registries, there is no inspection requirement where horses of other breeds that wish to be accepted as breeding stock have to be approved before they can be used.  Still, I'm sure Storm Cat will be a boost to the quarter horse racing industry.  If nothing else, his progeny will probably sell very well

The AQHA has always allowed Thoroughbreds to be used as breeding stock for Quarter Horses. Many AQHA "Foundation" sires are actually TB.

If Storm Cat has different TB bloodlines than those already common in QHs and the old boy isn't being required to mount a dummy (oh, the shame ;) then I see nothing wrong.

There are of course, too many horses being bred in general but that is a different argument.

I have been involved with AQHA for a number of years and would like to correct some statements that are posted on here.

First: blaming AQHA for "allowing" Storm Cat to sire appendix quarter horses is no different than blaming the Jockey Club--they are both breed registries with established rules, and the Storm Cat QH breeding is defintely within the AQHA rules.

Second: AQHA only allows one "outside" breed into the registry and that is a JC registered TB crossed on a fully registered QH. There is an appendix registry for TBxQH; they have performance privilges and may only be bred to fully registered QHs. Horses can advance from appendix registry to full regsitry by earning the requisiste number of points in competition, either race or show.

Third: I believe that TB studs cover many more mares, and that is particularly true of TBs that ship to the southern hemisphere for the other breeding season. Just because QH allows AI, does not mean that there are more QHs bred. Also, there are a lot of QHs bred for ranching, roping-reining-cutting, recreationl riding, showing, as well as QH racing.

And lastly, QH is facing some similar issues that TBs do. the most poplular sire lines in several disciplines are becoming concentrated so that there is little "outcross" blood being introduced. Storm Cat might be an interesting outcross for the QH while still staying within breed registry rules.

I do find on other breed forums, blogs that the QH industry and registry rules are not well understood.

I know alot of the old school Traditionalists aren't going to like this BUT, I hope it works out for them.  

In fact I hope it works out so well for them that someday in the not too distant future the Thoroughbred industry starts to allow A.I.

I've never understood why they haven't when the Quarterhorse and Standard Bred industries(so i've heard) have been "Successfully" for many years now.

So...Why is that ???

Is it the buttload of extra money that the Stallion Farms will lose out on from the boarding and vet money that they also make ???

I mean...I understand the idea of trying to keep things as "Natural" as possible BUT, shouldn't it at least be the Owner of the mare's "Choice" ???

Why can't it be both ???

Good grief.

Actually you're wrong about the QH breeding practices. We have a stallion, we have sent mares to outside studs and we as well as everyone we take our mares to want to know what they are breeding to.

Actually the breed does have a pretty limited gene pool. There are a few stallions that EVERYONE wants to breed to and a ton of them trace back to Dash for Cash and a couple others.

I wouldn't presume to talk about 'warmbloods' or whatever the heck you're referencing to, so unless you are a regular QH breeder, please return the favor.

How shameful! Haven't they made enough money on Storm Cat? I don't think quarter horses need any more thoroughbred infusions. The legacy of the great stallion should not be tarnished with the indignity of manually retrieving his semen for any money! I guess the industry has really hit rock bottom now.

  Yaaaaay!  I don't know why some people seem sour about this, QHs have always been heavily mixed with TBs, the short horses just didn't get a registry to call them a separate breed until 1940 when AQHA was founded. I'm from a NM ranch and have a racing and breeding background and study  pedigrees back to the 15th century. Both breeds have many of the same horses in their backgrounds, especially as you go farther back in time. TBs didn't have a registry at one time but people kept good records of the bloodlines. Whether they were short horses or those who raced longer distances(it was once fashionable to run 4 mile heats)they were separate by how far they could carry their speed. Storm Cat will be a good cross for QHs

I think Overbrook is making a big mistake selling Storm Cat's frozen semen right now.

Sometime in the future the Jockey Club has to open up for AI.

Look at the number of mares that are being bred to the top stallions-over 120 a season. Look at the wear and stress on the stallions and danger in the breeding shed. Have to take a break from the breeding shed due to back end problems.  

We now have DNA testing so mistakes in breeding the wrong mare or more than one mare should be a no issue in using AI in the thoroughbreds.

Save it Overbrook. Someday it's going to be worth more than $20,000. a breeding.

fISHfARM: You raise an interesting question about when the JC will begin allowing AI in TBs.  I think it is probobly a long way off but you do point out that with DNA testing, the mistakes couldn't be made, although humans are sometimes unfortunately less then full of integrity, which still does expose the potential for dishonesty(IN HORSERACING< NOOOO)

however I do think that Storm Cat, crooked ass leg and all might be good for QH racing, as there is alot of mares bred to the same handful of QH stallions every year.  I don't want to say anything negative about the AQHA breeding practices though because I am not sure about all the rules of it and I am not directly involved with QH racing, although I have been around some great ones, Kaweah Bar, Easy Date(I used to feed her doughnuts in the mornings)Migja, Mini Rock, and my current new best friend forever, Tres Passes. I met Hennesy and Check Him Out, Corona Cocktail, and another TB that was bred to QH mares with some sucess, Red.  I think if the TB has precocity and speed, why not!

Can't understand all you hateful people??? Its a business and they can do whatever they want with Storm Cat's stored semen. He's not mounting mares so its not hurting him any. I agree that QH's have been overbred but maybe some good can come from this. Look at both sides people before you react with all these negative reactions. He is an outcross so I don't see to much problem with it and its not like he'll be breeding hundreds of mares. Get over it people.

fishfarm,

AQHA has allowed AI for a long time. Jockey Club isn't even considering it. How long does stored semen last? What is the ethics if the sire is deceased?

Storm Cat is 28(?) don't think he'll still be around in the 10-20 years this may take.

I think it's a great idea, widen both breeds in scope. QH is more inbred than you guys in the Warmblood field realize.

JAJ Actually  Hennessy and Grand Slam were two that were sires of QH bred by Laura Pinelli and Wayne.  It was Wayne who had the breeding shares. Masters Call I believe was the last of those and he and Zory Kuzyk sold that colt for 458,000 a few years ago. He still had a few running last year, not sure of the lineage on those or if he is running any QH this year, Chris O'Dell trained for him I believe.

Laura is in real estate now and I don't believe she has any horses in training, not sure if she is still in the breeding business.

She and Wayne have been divorced for years.

As far as I know, no Storm Cat QH out there yet.

Enough already!  Where's my safe, dependable, sweet, lovable, work all day and do it again the next day foundation QH?  Please, please let's not ruin this breed.  Thoroughbreds KEEP OUT!

YOU GO STORMCAT !!!!

Behind every good AQHA or APHA IS a THOROUGHBRED.

The owner has the right to handle the stallion anyway he pleases. The Blog is a great way to share an opinion, but the owners choices are his alone. Due to the age of this great stallion, A-I does make perfect sense for a AQHA-Cross.

When my new stallion arrived at my farm, I rushed my APHA (Paint ) Mare to him- You should SEE the improvemnets my stallion has made as far as correct conformation-ALL the foals have been improved over their dams.

I don't view the decision of STORMCATS owner as ''greed''-but as a choice to continue the bloodline of STORMCAT.

AQHA NEEDS a new infusion of a different bloodline AS does the APHA. I wish I could book to STORMCAT on ANY mare !

I look forward to seeing the foal from STORMCAT & his AQHA mare .I hope there is more than one !!!

BEST WISHES !

Good points by everyone. Nothing wrong with introducing new blood into a breed that started out with stallions that had TB blood to begin with. Three Bars was a reg TB I believe.

The comment about bad manners etc, have you ever been on post parade with a bunch of QH 2 or 3 yr olds going to the gate for a stake race? Talk about goofy!

If your breeding to race it would help to have horses that were over 14 hands and forearms longer than 2 inches. And don't get me started on how small the average QH's feet are in relation to their body weight. Before you jump all over me, yes I have raised TB's and my family raises QH and the younger sister manages a large private cutting horse breeding operation.

Wanda, you are so right.

Had a 2 year old QH filly was ponying her up for a race from the barn, someone slammed a car door many yards away from us, she freaked and reared up right over the top of me and the pony horse.

Another 2 year old QH colt a friend had, reared up in the saddling enclosure, knocked the roof off of it, ran over the trainer (6'5" 250) and ran over a couple people on the way thru the gap ONTO the track, knocked the rail down. Both were pure QH, way back when and no TB in either. My QH pony horse acted like he was insane whenever I stood behind the gate would wheel every time the bell rang.  Sometimes the pony horses are worse acting that those they escort.

It's like bumper cars at the start of most 2 y.o. QH races, has been for the 50+ years I've been watching them.

Barrel racers have some pure QH (if there is such a thing in this day) some have Appendix horses, ever watch them in the alleyway at the WNFR, they almost ALL act up and the folks who help the ladies get them in have the most dangerous job besides the clowns.

Also, some trainers ride ex race horses (TB), remember Funny Cide, Wayne Lukas does, a few others as well.  Temperment just depends on the horse, like us humans.

Right Katsan that's what I was trying to say. I get angry when people make blank statements, there's good and bad in every breed. I've used TB,QH and Arabs for ponys and they ALL were racehorses at some point. I saved a TB filly from the packing plant in Oct and gave her to my mom for a brood mare. Mom was all worried about her running around and going thru the fence. She was raised outside(I know the family)and was used to being in a herd. It took my mom 2 months before she realized that this filly was just as nice to be around as her QH mares.She will be bred to a cutting horse in April, interesting cross don't you think? She's a Willard Scott out of a Prospector's Pick mare and has a little black type.(Alberta bred)

hrseldy: You better go thru pedigrees of really nice QH, cause I hate to tell you they have LOTS of TB breeding. Oh well there goes the "breed" lol.

Katsan - In my younger days I barrelraced several of my Appaloosa horses and my best mare did not have any QH in her she was from the old Appaloosa lines that had been infused with Arabian blood but to say it is the QH inbreeding that makes these barrelracers hard to handle is not the case, these barrelracers are geared up upon knowing that they are about to run the barrels. My mare would start dancing, tossing her head and hopping in place. She knew what she was about to do it had nothing to do with inbreeding as she had none. Her colt that was the result of a breeding with a really nice QH was more calm and relaxed when I barrel raced him.

Right again Wanda,

There are so few foundation breds left it's nigh on impossible to find them. Hancock, even it's been diluted and people usually breed to that line when they want to get some bone size on a fine boned, smallish mare.

Do people even research before they react?  Dash for Cash, the most prolific bloodline was (as one well informed poster said) out of a TB mare, by an Appendix who was by Rocket Bar TB, by Three Bars, also a THOROUGHBRED.  The foundation breed just doesn't hold much appeal in looks, the 'Bulldog'

appearance isn't that pretty or useful as far as conformation.

If you can find a 'purebred' foundation QH out there, it's a real search.  The mistake a lot of people make is seeing the QH behind the name thinking the horse is a pureblood QH, well like someone said, they can earn their ROM and get that label QH when they are almost all TB and in breeding terms are an Appendix.

Frozen stored semen, no harm to Storm Cat, introduce a little new blood in the breed that now tracks back to just a few lines, WHAT is wrong with that? Not like they'll be breeding thousands at that price. Pretty pricey when you consider the average and the fact that even in the heyday QH's at auction have NEVER sold for as much as a TB.

Anything to start up the overbreeding, slaughter etc hysteria.  My bet is if somebody bred a Storm Cat, they wouldn't be discarding it if it didn't perform on the track. Rodeo horse, etc because I bet he'll get a looker out of that mare they bred him to.

To the writer who thinks Hennessy has excellent confirmation {my word}.........sorry!  He is low in the back and overly high in the hip.  Short neck and not much bone in those front legs.  Everyone should relax.  Storm Cat is perfect for the Quarter Horses.  He is overly muscular and his get don't like going around 2 turns, unless they are out of Windsharp or some other stout mare.  There is only so much Storm Cat out there and he is not breeding today.  Only the dismount samples they have stored are being used.  Storm Cat has already been bred to 1/4 horse mares years ago when D. Wayne Lucas was Overbrooks main trainer.  He wife who still worked with 1/4 horses trained them.   As far as I know, they did not do anything.  The horse business is just that.......a business.  If they can make money doing this, more power to them.

Right on Robert! People relax it's not like there's going to be hundreds of little Appendix Storm Cat's running around. I was curious so I went to the site on Check Him Out. He's a good looking horse and made over 400 thou.

Robert, Maybe you want to research a little bit?

First I'm not sure that anyone said what great conFORmation Hennessy had, but he sired a couple of good looking, nice colts Check Him Out much in demand stud and multiple G1 winner. His full brother Masters Call is a looker, just not as successful, kind of a hard luck colt, but gorgeous and sold for 485,000 as a yearling.

Second it's LUKAS. Anyone commenting on a TB publication should know that, plus the fact that he trained for Bill Young Sr. as his main trainer.

Third Storm Cat has never been bred to a Quarter Horse mare. If you read the article on BH you'd know that, Ric Waldman stated as much. But if you need it straight from the horses mouth (so to speak)I'll have our friend ask next time she sees their trainer Wayne, if we don't see him first. I just can't imagine that he'd have used a breeding share worth half a million $ on a QH, way too savvy and sharp for that.

Also Laura is Wayne's ex wife has been for about 6 years. She trained the QH's for him even after the divorce but last year Chris O'Dell was his trainer of QH. That person who said that is correct.

As for not much success.  Check Him out was a multiple stakes winner, Hero's Call by Grand Slam TB was AQHA World Champion Distance Horse of the Year, another TB bred (can't remember which of the two it was) but he was a graded stakes winner as well at 870. So I'd say that's pretty decent with those.

I know Laura had some at the Los Al sale in 07, Wayne too. Nothing this year that I recall.

Don't think she trains any more, sells real estate here in the Orange County area.

What a great thing to happen for the quarter horse industry. Lets face, look at the pedigrees of our running quarter horses. They all go back to Thoroughbreds. And how can anybody talk poorly about a thoroughbred when there are so many great stories of them with there heart and athleticism. I ride barrel horses and the best crosses i have had have been out of thoroughbred mares. I prefer a racy athletic looking horse over a short and stocky one. Look at the horses that win on the track and in the arena, they dont look like your typical quarter horse. What an honor to get to breed to a living legend. Storm Cat has had sons breed to quarter horse mares that have produced stakes winners. Also, Coup De Kas was a thoroughbred and produced many champions. Don't look at it as we are gonna get bad manners and conformation, in case you havent noticed we already have that, but this is truly an honor. Cant wait to see what it does for quarter horse racing.

I own a young mare by Storm Cat lines on top and Flashy Zipper on bottom.  She is very gentle, intelligent, fast learner and will work all day for me.  She does have a few quirts, mainly a "green" thing and is a sensitive horse.  She has the fast-twitch muscles racers look for.  She is extremely catty and the most athletic horse I have ever ridden. I hope to make a great barrel horse out of her !  I also own an appendix by a Rene Dan Jet son out of a TB mare by Regal Classic top and Phone Trick bottom and she has so far at 3 proven to be highly trainable, has perfect conformation.

I am happy so see it and will be interesting to me to see the outcome of the foals since my mare seems to be almost a one-of-a-kind right now.

To say that breeding Storm Cat to Quarter Horses implies that somehow the Quarter Horse is inferior to the Thoroughbred. I hope that while all horse owners have their particular preferences, they are open minded enough to appreciate what each unique breed has to offer.  I'm sure that Storm Cat has had a life of priviledge as far as horses go, and is still very well cared for, he probably doesn't mind taking time out from his busy days in retirement for semen collection.  As far as being greedy goes, his owners still have a stallion that has a great deal to contribute to both Quarter Horses and Thoroughbreds, why shouldn't they charge for the honor of Storm Cat genes.  He's a legend, and while $20,000 is considerably less that his fee in his heyday, $500,000 is not the type of fee normally paid in the QH industry.  This is an experiment, so no one in their right mind would spend that kind of money on an unproven sire, which, crossed to QH's, Storm Cat is.  As the owner of a mare that is truly beloved and quite long in the tooth, it thrills me to know that any horse of advanced years is valued.  It would be far worse if a stallion of Storm Cats stature wound up like Ferdinand.

I have running quarter horses I've been around livestock and horses along with coon dogs regular dogs sheep goats deer anything you can think of I live in the middle of no where. I have bloodlines such as First Down Dash Zevi Easy Jet Special Effort Deposit Ticket(TB) and I liove everyone of my horses I'm a grown man and cried when I gave the pony I owned away. I like the idea of bringing Storm Cat in especially if I could afford his colts after we find out what they can do and who he crosses best with and thank you AQHA and the jockey club for doing what you do and offering all the oppurtunities you offer to people and horses and for poeple who are so against the slaughter and industrialization of horse bi products thank you for killing the horse because you think youre doing whats right the horses that need to die cant full fill any other function than costing people money and giving nothing in return. When a horse is turned into dog food or glue or food it gives back it serves a purpose still in life it keeps living because it keeps giving just like we all wish we could still do after we die. We become organ donors we donate our kidneys while were living so we can keep giving when were gone. When this is made possible again then the horses that are alive can live better lives again until you all figure that out your killing our horses.