Top 6 Sires-of-Sires at Keeneland September


From Action This Day and Afleet Alex to Yonaguska and Zavata, a total of 288 stallions are represented by at least one yearling at the upcoming Keeneland September sale.

With 5,189 foals offered, each stallion is represented by an average of 18 colts and fillies. Some especially well-represented stallions -- 29 studs each have 50 or more offered -- force the median down to 9.5 hips per stallion.  The mode (the most frequently occuring number) for foals offered is one; in all, 52 stallions have a single foal being auctioned.


I thought it would be fun to look at the Keeneland September offerings from a different perspective:  immediate sire lines. In other words, the paternal grandsires of the offered yearlings. What I found was a total of 119 sires-of-sires represented in the sale, of which 68 are represented by a single sire son.

Here are the TOP SIX STALLIONS by number of sons with yearlings offered:

   1. Storm Cat:  26 sons with at least one foal each, and 616 foals total as a sire-of-sires

   2. A.P. Indy: 17 sire sons; 345 foals

   3. Tie  
:  13 sons; 142 foals
         Mr. Prospector: 13 sons; 228 foals

   5. Gone West: 9 sons; 283 foals

   6. Unbridled's Song: 8 sons; 232 foals


And finally, a breakdown by sire line. Here's what I came up with:

Sire Line No. Sires-of-Sires No. Sires No. Hips
Buckpasser 2 3 29
Damascus 2 2 6
(see Domino, Plaudit)
3 5 125
Icecapade 2 4 22
In Reality 9 11 167
Mr. Prospector 33 92 1,753
(non-Seattle Slew)
17 22 326
Northern Dancer 34 103 1,801
Raise a Native
(non-Mr. P.)
2 3


Ribot 2 3 41
Seattle Slew 5 28 640
Turn-to 8 12 212

Now, we could, I suppose, break this down further to "founding sires" and the skew would be huge:  0 foals from the Byerly line through Herod; 167 for the Godolphin line through Matchem; and 5,022 yearlings from the Darley line through Eclipse.

We previously discussed sire lines:  Do Thoroughbred Sire Lines Carry More Weight Than Other Pedigree Influences?


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I am not at home and accordingly don't have immediate access to the Stallion Register, so sorry for the question:

Do you know how many Herod line stallions there are currently standing in N. Am? Anybody on the current Sires List?

  • Scot's reply:  Offhand, I know of Legal Jousting (IRE) in Ontario and French Seventyfive in Oklahoma. Maybe somebody reading this can add a name or two?
01 Sep 2009 3:41 PM

Thanks for info.

I looked up the pedigrees and Legal Jousting comes down through the horse that broke my heart: Lorenzaccio.  First defeat for Nijinsky.  Aargh.

French Seventyfive comes down through Ambiorix and Ambiopoise.  Don't either of them have any more descendants?  Wasn't Ambiorix a leading sire in the 50's or 60's?  Or was he just a leading broodmare sire?

It's sad to think that one of the three TB sire lines is dying out.  Although you never know, eh?  Didn't the breeder who bred The Tetrarch try to save the Herod line at the beginning of the 1900's?  I believe it's still doing OK in France, isn't it?

01 Sep 2009 4:42 PM

I think that the Herod line is also in danger of dying out in England. Only the sons of Indian Ridge left. I still don't understand why the only Indian Ridge sons imported to the US were geldings - go figure.

01 Sep 2009 9:46 PM

Legal Jousting is entire and is a son of Indian Ridge.  There used to be a stallion in Texas named something like Ben Ridge who was also a son of Indian Ridge.  French Seventyfive is ancient;  if he's still breeding it would be a miracle.

Herod as a sireline is almost gone worldwide unless he is somewhere in one of the other racing countries like India or South Africa or even Japan.


15 Sep 2009 3:37 PM

There is a great grandson of Luthier standing in Japan.  His name is Daitaku Yamato.  His sire was Diataku Helios.  There may be more descendants of Dandy Lute in Japan.

I think I may have found a couple of Luthier descendants in South Africa as well, but haven't had the time to really check them out.

The sire in Texas is Ben's Ridge.

17 Sep 2009 12:45 AM

Found another Dandy Lute line sire in Japan named Tosho Fleet.  

17 Sep 2009 12:51 AM
The Five-Cross Files

A bit of research on Thoroughbred sire-line descent becomes a trip down memory lane as I consult the 1982 Stallion Register.

17 Sep 2009 8:52 AM
Byerley Turk

AnneM said "French Seventyfive is ancient;  if he's still breeding it would be a miracle. " Well he is breeding and doing very well. He covered 3 mares for us this year and 100% are in foal. We hope to have a son to carry on the sire line soon.

06 Oct 2011 8:04 AM
Byerley Turk

AnneM said "French Seventyfive is ancient;  if he's still breeding it would be a miracle." Well AnneM, French Seventyfive covered 3 mares for us this year and they are all in foal. We hope to have a colt to continue the Ambiorix line soon.

06 Oct 2011 8:37 AM

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