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Kris and Diesis -- Brothers Working In Surprising Ways

There are some crosses that, intuitively, one would expect to work.

That of European turf star Diesis (GB) (by Sharpen Up (GB)) with Alydar is not among them. The cross, however, has turned out to be quite effective – it is TrueNick rated A++ - and one of the best examples is Magical Fantasy, who added a weekend win in the Santa Barbara Handicap (gr. IIT) to a score in last year’s Del Mar Oaks (gr. IT). She is the fourth stakes winner bred on the cross of Diesis over an Alydar-line mare (the other three are out of Alydar daughters and include grade III winner Warm Heart). In the case of Magical Fantasy, some of the mystery is diminished by a nick between Diesis and the family. Magical Fantasy’s dam Kissing Gate is half-sister to two Diesis stakes winners in the shape of CIGA Prix de l’Abbaye de Longchamp (FrI) victor Keen Hunter and Altibr, who took the Shadwell Keeneland Turf Mile (gr. IIT) and Dubai Duty Free (UAE-III).

As a tangent to this, Diesis’ brother Kris (GB) popped up in the pedigree of another high-class winner who would not have been the most obvious cross. This is Neo Universe (JPN), whose son Unrivaled (JPN) took the Satsuki Sho (Jpn-I), Japanese Two Thousand Guineas equivalent, at the weekend. Unrivaled is one of two stakes winners from the first crop of Neo Universe, who himself won the Japanese Derby and Satsuki Sho. Neo Universe is one of at least 12 sons of Sunday Silence who have sired a grade I winner, but what is more surprising is that the cross of Sunday Silence and Kris rates a TrueNicks A++. Unrivaled is out of the Sadler’s Wells mare Ballet Queen (IRE) (a sister to Three Chimneys Dewhurst Stakes (Eng-I) winner Prince of Dance. She’s been a stellar producer, and is dam of two other black-type winners, including Tokyo Yushun (Jpn-I) (Japanese Derby) winner Fusaichi Concorde (JPN), and granddam of three other stakes winners, including another Satsuki Sho winner, the Brian’s Time colt Victory (JPN). Oddly enough, Neo Universe and Unrivaled both come from a Weinstock/Sobell (Ballymacoll Stud) family going back to the mare Sunny Gulf (GB). Purchased from the estate of Dorothy Paget, Sunny Gulf is ancestress of countless top-class performers, including last year’s Breeders’ Cup Turf (gr. I) victor Conduit (IRE).

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5 Comments:

It is quite interesting to see that cross working so well. Diesis and Kris have worked very well here with Roberto and his desdendants. Elmaamul is an example and his son Muhtathir is going to make a mark in Europe.

Taking a look at Alydar's mother sweet Tooth, it has a lot of similarities with the pedigree of Roberto. Sweet cames from Nasrullah while Roberto has it in his pedigree and comes from Nasrullah 3/4 brother Royal Charger. Roberto has 3 sons of Plucky Liege in Sir Gallahad, Admiral Drake and Bull Dog, while Sweet tooth is inbreed to Bull Lea , son of Bull Dog and also present in roberto. Finally Blue Delight is a daughter of Blue Larkspur to whom Roberto is inbred.

Interesting. It's a pity that both Kris and Diesis frequently deliver close hocks, because they are a good source of quality.

Regards form Spain

Alfonso 23 Apr 2009 2:22 AM

Thanks Alfonso. That's an interesting observation Sometimes horse breeding is a bit like algebra - A (Kris/Diesis) works with B (Roberto), which is very similar to C (Alydar), so we shouldn't be surprised when A and C work together.

Roberto's son, Red Ransom, got his first big winner, Sri Pekan, out of a mare by Son Ange, a close relative to Alydar).

Alan Porter 23 Apr 2009 8:18 PM

Danehill has crossed very well with Diesis in the past few years also, Dylan Thomas & Churchill Downs being two stakes winners, Queen's Logic & Sixties Icon by Sadler's Wells & Hayil by Dayjur, other group one winners bred on this cross. In Danehill's case maybe it is the doubling up of Native Dancer giving THREE crosses in 5x5x5 & again with Dayjur 5x5x5. Maybe he just loves Northern Dancer, most other sirelines do.

Murray 26 Apr 2009 3:41 AM

Dear Murray,

it is very interesting what you are saying. In the past I did analyse the results of Danehill with Native dancer line broadmares, and apart from the ones you hasve mentioned, you can find; Duke of Marmalade, Danehill Dancer, George Washington, Landseer, Scintillation, Stronghold, Sir Ernesto, Multidimensional, Danehurst, Planet Ruler, Barolo, Simply Perfect, Kissing Cousin, Archange D'or, Dr. moore, Admiralofthefleet, etc,.......

There are a lot, and here in Europe the Native Dancer line, is not so extended as in the US. Danehill pedigree allows easy inbreedings to Native Dancer.

Regards from Spain

Alfonso 27 Apr 2009 4:55 AM

Danzig (sire of Danehill) in general loves Sharpen Up.

Danzig's third dam, English Oaks winner Steady Aim, is very similarly-bred to Oaks and 1,000 Guineas winner Rockfel (dam of Rockefella, the broodmare sire of Sharpen Up).

Alan Porter 27 Apr 2009 8:30 PM

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