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Calumet Farm Returns with Trio of New Stallions

Calumet Farm is a name that has been associated with history-making stallions since the arrival of English Derby winner Blenheim II in 1936. In that case, Calumet—for whom Blenheim II sired Triple Crown hero Whirlaway—was only part of the investment group that brought the Aga Khan's classic victor to the U.S., Blenheim II's stateside home being Claiborne Farm. However, it wouldn't be long before Calumet would have their own stallion superstar in the shape of Bull Lea. A son of the imported French sire Bull Dog, Bull Lea retired to stand at Calumet in 1940. He went on to sire 58 stakes winners from 377 named foals and to claim the leading sire title five times. In addition to the immortal Citation, who also stood at Calumet, Bull Lea sired three other horses who earned honors as Horse of the Year: Twilight Tear, Coaltown, and Armed.

Other prominent horses to stand at Calumet in the immediate post-WWII era were the Triple Crown winner Whirlaway; Bull Lea's Kentucky Derby-winning son Iron Liege; English-sired, but Kentucky born, Kentucky Derby and Preakness winner Pensive; and his Kentucky Derby-winning son Ponder, himself sire of another Kentucky Derby winner in Needles. In more recent times the farm stood such as Alydar, the leading sire of 1990; and for part of their careers Wild Again, who took the initial Breeders' Cup Classic (gr. I) and sired more than 80 stakes winners, and Capote, champion 2-year-old and sire of 63 stakes winners, including another juvenile champion, Boston Harbor.

After a hiatus of more than a decade, Calumet reopened its stallion barn last year, when country singer Toby Keith's duo of Cactus Ridge (TrueNicks) and Ice Box (TrueNicks,SRO) took up residence. That duo have now moved on, but for 2013 Calumet—now in new ownership—will be standing three new sires.

The most illustrious of these is Americain (TrueNicks), who re-establishes the Calumet tradition of history-making, as he will be the first winner of "the race that stops a nation," the Melbourne Cup (Aus-I), to stand in the U.S. since the 1946 victor, Russia, stood for a short while in the 1950s. Bred by the Wertheimer brothers, Americain began his career in the famed blue and white silks. In two starts at 2, he scored over seven furlongs at Chantilly and finished third in the Criterium du Fonds Euorpeen de l'Elevage. The following year he recorded his first listed victory, taking the Prix de l'Avre. At 4, Americain captured his first group event, the Prix Vicomtesse Vigier (Fr-II) from three French outings.

As smart as he'd been up to that point, however, it was at 5, and racing for a new ownership group, that Americain developed into a true force to be reckoned with, taking five straight races. He kicked off the streak with a conditions win at Clairefontaine, then added the Prix du Carrousel, and the Prix Kergorlay (Fr-II). Shipped to Australia, Americain took the 1 1/2-mile Geelong Cup (Aus-III) on his debut, then 10 days later scored his smashing victory in the Melbourne Cup.

If anything, Americain was even better the following year. In a European season designed to prep him for a second tilt at the Melbourne Cup, he captured the Prix de Reux. In Australia, he captured the Moonee Valley Gold Cup (Aus-II), then finished a heroic fourth under top-weight in the Melbourne Cup after being widest of all turning for home. Just 11 days later, and dropping back to 12 furlongs, Americain produced his customary turn off foot to take the Sandown Classic (Aus-II) over the excellent performer Manighar. On the year-ending International Classifications, Americain's merit was acknowledged in no uncertain fashion, his efforts in 2011 earning him an official ranking as the world's top stayer.

Remaining in Australia for the spring of 2012 (the Australian fall racing season) Americain produced two more sterling efforts. Dropping down to 10 furlongs for the Australian Cup (Aus-I), Americain finished third, beaten just a short head and a neck by Manighar and multiple group I winner Southern Speed. He followed that up with another fine middle-distance effort, closing well to take second in the BMW (Aus-I) after being short of room when beginning his challenge. A stakes-performer for six straight seasons, Americain retires with a record of 11 wins in 34 starts and earnings of $5,152,721.

While it's clear from his record that Americain is a turf stayer, there is a good reason that fact would not have deterred Calumet Farm, which also is the principal owner of English Channel (TrueNicks,SRO), a champion turf horse who enjoyed his finest moment when ending his career with a romp in the 2007 Breeders' Cup Turf (gr. IT). English Channel's first crop—3-year-olds of 2012—has already produced nine individual stakes winners, including the record-breaking Queen's Plate victor Strait of Dover and graded scorers Blueskiesnrainbows and Optimizer, propelling their sire to a position of third on the second-crop sires list behind only Hard Spun (TrueNicks,SRO) and Scat Daddy (TrueNicks,SRO).

Like English Channel, Americain was not only a top-class turf runner, but he also has a top-class pedigree. He is by Roberto's son Dynaformer, himself a course-record breaker over 1 1/2 miles, who fought his way from the bargain basement to a position as one of the world's leading sires. Americain's dam, America, was purchased by the Wertheimers as a yearling and went on to win the Prix de Malleret (Fr-II) and Prix Vanteaux (Fr-III). A daughter of the unforgettable Breeders' Cup Juvenile (gr. I) winner Arazi, America is a half sister to Rose Indien, a stakes winner who set a course record for seven furlongs at Belmont Park, and to group winner Majorien. The granddam, Green Rosy, a stakes-placed daughter of Green Dancer, is a full sister to stakes winner Big Sink Hope, and half sister to Rose Bouquet, who took the Pucker Up Stakes (gr. IIIT). She is also a half sister to the dam of Jovial, winner of four graded stakes events, including the Oaklawn Handicap (gr. I) and Swaps Stakes (gr. II).

Calumet is doubling down on Dynaformer in 2013, as it will also introduce that horse's son Lentenor (TrueNicks), a stakes-winning brother to the ill-starred Kentucky Derby (gr. I) hero Barbaro. Seemingly more of a miler type than his classic-winning brother, Lentenor won four times on the turf, gaining a black-type win in the 8 1/2-furlong Kitten's Joy Stakes, and setting a new course standard for 8 1/2 furlongs at Tampa Bay Downs. Although his winning efforts were confined to the sward, Lentenor did perform with distinction on his dirt and stakes debut, where, despite a bump in the stretch, he was a good fourth to eventual Kentucky Derby runner-up Ice Box, Pleasant Prince, and Rule (TrueNicks) in the Florida Derby (gr. I).

Lentenor is not only a brother to Barbaro, but also to two other stakes performers in Nicanor and Margano, and half brother to stakes winner Holy Ground. His dam, La Ville Rouge, is a multiple graded stakes-placed daughter of Carson City and La Reine Rouge, who took the Toddler Stakes over 5 1/2 furlongs at 2.

The third of Calumet's new trio of stallions is the talented sprinter/miler Aikenite (TrueNicks). An earner of over $875,000, Aikenite gained graded stakes victories in the Churchill Downs Stakes (gr. II) and Commonwealth Stakes (gr. II). His placings include seconds in the Breeders' Futurity (gr. I), Derby Trial (gr. III), and Phoenix Stakes (gr. III), and thirds in the Hopeful (gr. I), Forego (gr. I), and Fountain of Youth (gr. II). A sound runner, Aikenite started 24 times, including 11 starts at age 3.

By Yes It's True (TrueNicks,SRO)—by Is It True, a son of two-time champion sire Raja Baba—Aikenite represents what is now virtually the only viable branch of the Bold Ruler line, outside of Seattle Slew. His dam, the Saint Ballado mare SIlverlado, is a half sister to stakes winners Clover Hunter and Love of Silver, the latter group I-placed at 2 in France. The granddam, Silver Clover, is by Secretariat and out of the Arlington-Washington Lassie Stakes captress Clover Lane, ancestress of several other talented performers, including grade I scorers Stately Victor and Collect the Cash. Clover Lane is also a half sister to Shakney, the granddam of Deputy Minister, and this is also the immediate family of another multiple champion sire in Exclusive Native.

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43 Comments:

Congratulations to Calumet Farm. It would be wonderful to see that venerable institution climb back into breeding prominence. Going with sons of Dynaformer (and, hopefully, bringing in top notch mares) should fill the ranks with some good turf stayers and some much-needed soundness. Bringing in Aikenite will help fill the speed niche without sacrificing the requisite soundness factor.

Melissa P 29 Nov 2012 3:07 PM

Wow! What great additions to the North American stallion roster.  

Americain should provide much needed stamina.  Hopefully Aikenite establish another Bold Ruler line.  Many will consider it heretical, but I am glad both these horses are free of Mr. Prospector, a very fast and brave horse, but conformationally flawed.

Opalisa 29 Nov 2012 3:21 PM

SO proud of Lentenor!!  This very beautiful horse will produce beautiful and talented babies.  Cannot wait til they hit the ground and then the tracks...

Marigold 29 Nov 2012 3:25 PM

I second Marigold. So proud of Lentenor and Americain to carry on for Dynaformer. If they can both produce like their dad then we are going to be in for fun for years to come. May be a little prejudice but do love our Lenny.

lobieb 29 Nov 2012 4:13 PM

Talk about stamina. How about the resiliency of Calumet Farm? Congratulations and best wishes to the new owners of this venerable enterprise.

spin2415 29 Nov 2012 5:02 PM

It's very different though, isn't it, from the days when a Calumet would stand only the homebreds, such as Tim Tam, Best Turn, Alydar. For many years, farms such as Greentree would do the same. I very much miss that continuity, as it tended to make for a far more fulfilling stud farm visit.

I'm happy that the Calumet Farm property remains intact, and remains a thoroughbred horse farm. Hope it always stays as such, but this may require an astute approach by ownership/advisors/management. Those three stallions are rather contrarian by KY standards and gives me concern.  

sceptre 29 Nov 2012 5:17 PM

Congrats to Calumet on their new stallion acquisitions. Big fan of Dynaformer and his offspring. Only hope American breeders will embrace and be willing to give these future foals time to mature and realize their full potential. Would like to see more turf racing, especially over a distance in this country.

kenek 29 Nov 2012 6:42 PM

You cannot even think of the history of North American breeding and racing without including the name Calumet Farm.

Although we are talking about a whole new cast of characters under that name good luck to them in breeding another great champion.

John T 29 Nov 2012 9:12 PM

I doubt Lentenor will be a top-tier horse, considering his less than stellar race record, but it should be interesting to see what kind of mares Americain gets. He's obviously a top performer, but American breeders don't exactly gravitate toward turf stayers, even if they ought to. Lonhro was a miler, if I'm not mistaken, but it would be fun to know what kind of interest he got in his first season here, being an Australian also.

Michelle 29 Nov 2012 10:10 PM

Michelle - Lonhro won up to 10f, but his offspring have been largely sprinters and milers. Just last weekend he had a winner in the West Australian Guineas (G2) at 1600m (about 8f).

Pedigree Ann 30 Nov 2012 9:30 AM

In terms of ability as a racehorse, you would have to say that Americain was a better runner than Dynaformer, and in addition to his outstanding distance performances, dropping down to 10 furlongs, he only lost out to Manighar in a three-way photo in a group one.

On various editions of the 2012 world racehorse rankings, Manighar is rated equal to horses like Paynter, Dullahan, Havre de Grace, Mucho Macho Man, Royal Delta, Point of Entry, Groupie Doll, so in addition to being a world champion stayer, you have to give Americain credit for being a very talented runner at as short as ten furlongs.

You probably wouldn't send a sprinting mare to him, but he certainly could get middle-distance runners out of miler type mares.

Alan Porter 30 Nov 2012 11:57 AM

Way to go Lentenor!

Hatchery 30 Nov 2012 2:16 PM

Hi Alan,

You mention that you wouldn't send a sprinting mare to the stayer, Americaine. That would probably be my gut reaction as well, but I then reflected on it. Not so sure I could muster up a convincing argument to support such a position, and from memory, sufficient examples are hard to come by. The sprinter and top broodmare, Stilvi, was one that came to mind. When bred to stayers/staying influences she produced some of very high quality. Would be interested to hear you expand on your remark.

sceptre 30 Nov 2012 4:03 PM

Sceptre,

I'll let Alan make his own comments but my two cents worth is that what I am seeing in both our pedigree and genetics work is that fish/fowl matings in terms of aptitude are stacked against in terms of success (success being the horse in between both). Despite what Equinome would like you to believe, distance aptitude is polygenic (I could go into a whole diatribe about how the myostatin gene is a gene for mass only, not force production but we would be here for a month) and as a result you end up trying for a genetic longshot in terms of it being perfectly heterozygous from two homozygous horses (making the assumption that Americain is homozygous for all of the alleles responsible for distance aptitude). Its like trying to flip heads on a coin four times in a row which is about a 16-1 shot. Not great odds when you are only getting one shot/foal at it.

Byron Rogers 30 Nov 2012 5:07 PM

To touch on Sceptre, and Alan's comments.  Look no further then Frankel's Dam Kind.  She was a very fast sprinter/Miler, and she foaled 3 stakes winners by Galileo, and Sadler's Wells.  Sprinter to Stamina is not a complete toss. cheers.

Urban Sea 30 Nov 2012 6:02 PM

Hi Sceptre,

I tend to think that, in general, matings of extremes don't work out well - although there are always exceptions.

To a degree it's probably somewhat down to a phenotypical mismatch - maybe like a footballer and ballerina, if you get the footballer's body and the ballerina's legs.

I think also, particularly with sprinting mares, they are less likely to contribute to the more complex attributes needed to be a top-class middle-distance horse.

Stilvi, I guess was one the exceptions that proves the rule, as they say. She was a pure sprinter, by a miler, out of a mare by Guersant, a French Guineas winner who stayed 12 furlongs well enough to take the Hardwicke Stakes.

Her first four foals were stakes winners, three group one winners, and to an out and out stayer, Blakeney, she produced an Irish Derby winner Tyrnavos. However, her Busted (top-class twelve furlong horse) horse, Tromos, ran away with the seven-furlong Dewhurst Stakes (gr. I) at two, but didn't train on, and probably didn't get any further than a mile.

Oddly enough, her stallion sons were all huge disappointments, and her four daughters produced only two stakes winners - neither group/graded - between them.

Alan Porter 30 Nov 2012 7:17 PM

A sprinting mare was sent to the court of Galileo and it was so ''Kind'' of them to do that because it produced a horse we shall never forget called Frankel.

John T 30 Nov 2012 9:50 PM

Hi Alan, and Byron,

It was kind of you to respond, and I think it's a worthy topic for the readers. I glean from your comments that a cross between a pure stayer and pure sprinter would raise the liklihood for several dominant mis-matches within the resultant offspring, not unlike our concern when crossing the very tall and large with the very short and slender. Yes, aptitude is certainly polygenic, and there are, no doubt, preferred combinations distinct for each aptitude-type. All this is somewhat persuasive, but I feel still falls short of convincing. One problem may be that we're attempting to find answers through mere analogy, rather than hard science (sorry, Byron, but your attempt at a somewhat scientific explanation-the 100% homozygous for each-is an illustration for quite the opposite conclusion). There may well be good scientific evidence to support the idea we all share. But absent this, all we have are historical observation/historical data and reasoned comparatives. Well, as I now think of it, let's consider human beings re-height. It's not too uncommon for a very tall man to father a child from a very petite female. There must be many offsping out there from such a union. As humans, we are fairly expert at distinguishing "odd types" within our own species (moreso than we could for most other species). Well, I can't recall noticing much in the way of very disproportioned humans. Yes, I have noticed a lot of variation, but very few that I would connsider quite "odd". The same might be said re-the mating of pure bred dogs of different breeds, or mongrel matings. Yes, you tend to get a lot of variety, but generally the results are not "odd" looking. It's fairly easy to poke holes in these analogies (as it would relate to our subject) as well. And this, somewhat, is my point.      

sceptre 30 Nov 2012 10:06 PM

I never dreamed that we would see a horse like Americain stand here, let alone at a revitalized Calumet Farm! This is very good news. Lentenor deserves to get some good mares too, with those bloodlines.

Ironically, we just let another excellent stallion with a stayer pedigree who has also sired good turf horses go to Korea - too bad Calumet was not the buyer of Rock Hard Ten. Bad mistake to let him go!

Flora 30 Nov 2012 10:37 PM

When will the new owners start racing under the Calumet.  As far as I know the are still racing as bluegrass Hall?

Don h 01 Dec 2012 1:11 AM

Urban Sea/John T:

In a way, I'm sorry I raised it as an issue, because more likely than not, Alan and Byron are correct in avoiding such matings. Incidentally, the phenotype offers only a hint of what is the true genotype, and it is the potentiality of disparate aptitudinal genotypes that troubles them-perhaps, reason why Alan extended the discussion of Stilvi...As to your reference of Frankel, I don't think that he's a good example of the "contrary" to the "rule". An Americaine is, to my mind, a far more likely genotypically aptitudinal pure stayer-type than is a Galileo.

sceptre 01 Dec 2012 11:18 AM

I said this of Secretariat before he was retired (or there was an internet). I look for Lentenor , given the right mares, to become a great broodmare sire.

Blue Hen 01 Dec 2012 12:56 PM

World class sprinting mares underneath world class stayers have been the key ingredient in producing some of the most important  influences in our breed today. Example, Crimson Saint a world class sprinter bred to Secretariat produced GSW Poncho Villa and Terlingua  who was a Graded Stakes winning mare and the dam of Storm Cat-enough said there. Again Crimson Saint bred to top stayer Nijinsky II gave us Royal Academy. Crimson Saint did not have a blue blooded pedigree but what she did possess was world class speed which was the key ingredient. As mentioned earlier the dam of Frankel once again speed. Even backing up into the pedigree of Toussad she was out of a mare by the very influential speed sire In Reality. Miss Swapsco another speedball mare is the dam of Ballade and therefore  responsible for Saint Ballado and Glorious Song. Look at Spring At Last his sire Silver Deputy-speed over a Dynaformer mare- route produced a millionaire.  Barbaro is another example of route-Dynaformer over Carson City- speed. You have got to have speed somewhere in these pedigrees.   It seems like more times than not you will usually find speed  somewhere close to many of the real good ones.  Mr Prospector was a brilliant source of speed that's why he was so brilliant. Same with the current hot stallion War Front-speed! I would hope that Calumets new sons of Dynaformer get some speed put underneath them. That will be there best hope to be successful stallions!

Sabina 01 Dec 2012 1:46 PM

The importance of speed is never more obvious than in relation to the stellar start that the Florida speed biased  broodmares have given to the likes of Mr Prospector Kris S  and Saint Ballado just to name a few before they moved to Kentucky. Then when moved to Kentucky Mr Prospector brought the badly needed speed brilliance to those mares who were bred in the purple but were devoid of speed genetically. When they put the speed of Mr P on top of those royally bred route mares magic happened on the racetrack as it always does  

Sabina 01 Dec 2012 2:13 PM

Way to go Calumet!  Three good stallions and a clear path to returning to greatness!  I love Aikenite.

Deborah Thomas 01 Dec 2012 6:31 PM

Sceptre

You had nothing good to say about Frankel when he was a racehorse even though he was unbeaten in 14 starts, most of those at the highest level. So it is hardly a surprise in what you are saying. I am glad that his three-quarter brother Bullet Train is going to be standing in North America. By Sadlers Wells whose offspring won up to a distance of four and a half miles and out of this wonderful mare called Kind, I am certainly looking forward to seeing what kind of mares will be sent to him. It is interesting to note although he was used as the so called ''Rabbit''In his latter races for Frankel he still run with credit beating some very good horses in the process.

John T 01 Dec 2012 9:28 PM

Where is Bullet Train standing ...did not hear. this ??

Seabroker 02 Dec 2012 8:57 AM

John T:

I presume (although it's a bit unclear) that you now wish to substitue Bullet Train (instead of Frankel) as an example of the contrary to the "rule". From a phenotypic standpoint his sire, Sadler's Wells, was a French Champion MILER, and winner of the Irish 2000 Guineas (1 Mile)-hardly the aptitudinal resume of an Americaine. For Sadler's Wells as a sire, you surely could have found more accomplished examples than a Bullet Train to support your position. Trouble is, many of those very examples also tend to remove a Sadler's Wells from the category of a genotypic out-and-out stayer...As an aside, my views on Frankel's true racing ability are totally irrelevant to this conversation.  

sceptre 02 Dec 2012 11:49 AM

Sceptre: ... What was the name of that French One Mile Race that made Sadler's Wells a "French Champion Miler"

According to records he only ran once in France.. and that was in their Derby.. over 12 furlongs.. finishing second.

Me thinks.. that you believe everything that you read on the pedigreequery site.

Hal Dane. 03 Dec 2012 7:32 AM

Bullet Train's new place of residence has not been announced yet...just that he will stand in USA...

carol 03 Dec 2012 10:16 AM

Hal Dane,

Sadler's Wells was in fact named 1984 champion miler in France, according to The Jockey Club. (He actually ran twice in France, running 8th in the Arc.)

I agree it's odd given that he didn't win a race in France, but I think, in this case, "champion" functions more like "highweight"--for horses that raced in the country. I'm sure he achieved it by his big run (but not quite staying) in the French Derby, and by beating Procida and Rousillon in the Irish 2000 Guineas.

A more recent oddity was 2002 Irish champion (highweight) 2yo Tomahawk. He raced only once in Ireland at 2, winning a maiden, but he was 2nd in the Middle Park and Dewhurst in England, which elevated his status.

Ian Tapp 03 Dec 2012 10:56 AM

Hi, Ian.,

Thanks for the correction that Sadler's Wells ran twice at Longchampe, he was so far back in the ARC that I missed him.

I know that he didn't run a mile race in France..

Hal Dane. 03 Dec 2012 11:49 AM

Hal Dane:

Those must be some records you have-all videos? Otherwise, how would you have missed that Sadler's Wells ran two races in France soley because "he was so far back in the ARC..."?

sceptre 03 Dec 2012 3:34 PM

 Sceptre

I have not got the foggiest idea what you are talking about

I merely said I was glad Bullet Train was going to be standing in North America, how that is substituting him for Frankel is beyond me. As for Sadler's Wells I made no comment whatsoever how far he himself had won races but rather he has sired winners up to four and a half miles.

John T 03 Dec 2012 7:43 PM

Sceptre, my dear.. I record the first four in the premier races.. but only the first three in group two's and group three's.

I cover 149 races in 27 countries around the world, you must make allowances for me not knowing the complete finishing order of a race, Sadler's Wells was unplaced in the Arc, that is why he is missing from my records.

Hal Dane. 04 Dec 2012 4:34 AM

Dam Kind to Frankel. Frankel is a great miler and arguably the greatest ever but with no prestigious 12 furlongs on his resume should place him a tad less accomplished as Brigadier Gerard and tad ahead of Tudor Minstrel but he is not in the same category as the classic greats he has been awarded to be better ie Ribot, Shergar, Mill Reef, Dancing Brave, Sea The Stars.

chuck 04 Dec 2012 2:58 PM

Chuck

There is no question that the horses you mention belong in the top class of thoroughbred racing so I suppose the real question is does Frankel belong with them even though he never raced at 12 furlongs. For me anyway the answer is yes, In all 14 of his races I only saw him in trouble once amd that was in the St.James Palace Stakes at Royal Ascot but it must be remembered that came after he had won one of the best 2000 Gunieas from a very bad draw.You make no mention of his last two races which he won at 10 furlongs and the way he won them I don,t think 12 furlongs would have been a problem at all for Frankel at the top level.

John T 04 Dec 2012 8:04 PM

The following 2 horses are on the TImeform All-Time Highweights List- Tudor Minstrel and Abernant.

Their sire was Owen Tudor, a true stayer in the ilk of Americain.

Abernant was a sprinter.

Tudor Minstrel was a miler.

They were both all-time greats.

Owen Tudor won the  Gold Cup over 18 furlongs and the Derby.

Bred to speed, he produced Abernant and Tudor Minstrel, two of the greatest horses of all time.

Good luck to Americain.

JerseyBoy 05 Dec 2012 5:20 PM

JerseyBoy,

Owen Tudor was a very unusual horse. He was fast enough to win a good race over five furlongs at two, and could produce a brilliant finishing kick. As well as his good efforts, he could throw in some horrible clunkers.

He was a very inconsistent stallion, with a pretty moderate winners/runners percentage. In terms of aptitude, he seemed completely dominated by his mares. As you say, he threw Abernant and Tudor Minstrel (both from the Lady Josephine family), and another very good sprinter in Edmundo. On the other hand, he also sired Right Royal V, a very near great middle-distance runner, the Italian Oaks winner Theodorica and Tudor Era, who took the Man o' War Stakes, and at the extreme end of the distance scale, Elpenor, who won the Ascot Gold Cup and Prix du Cadran.

It's sheer speculation, but his speed and two, and his finishing ability, make me wonder if Owen Tudor wasn't one of those horses with quite a good proportion of fast twitch muscle fibre, but with a cardio-vascular system that gave quite a good aerobic ability. Horses like this can be somewhat pace sensitive while going long, which might explain Owen Tudor's inconsistency as a racehorse.

Alan Porter 06 Dec 2012 10:33 AM

On this subject Alan,Tudor Minstrel was bred to get 12 furlongs but if we take a closer look at his dam side,Sansonnet was a very fast 2 year old who quite simply

did not train on as a 3 year old.The second dam,Lady Juror

was a half-sister to the flying Mumtaz Mahal and I think enough has already been said without going back to Lady Josephine to find out why Tudor Minstrel was an outstanding miler but that was his limit.

John T 06 Dec 2012 10:52 PM

It absolutely thrills me to see Calumet Farm building their stallion barn.  I'm hoping the farm will be restored to the greatness it once experienced and the legacy of the farm will endure.  I'll be looking for that Derby winner in 2016 from Americain!  Love that Dynaformer bloodline!

Sandra in Kentucky 16 Dec 2012 4:25 PM

No matter how you breed and choose a mate, you need a trainer who knows how to bring out the best in a horse and no where to place them... unfortunately, this is the obstacle that I have come up against more often than not....

Dawn 23 Jan 2013 6:19 PM

So happy Calumet is coming back hope they allow fans to visit

Darlene 30 Jan 2013 10:22 PM

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